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Calculator83

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The cards just kept coming out and i couldn't make a decision even after numerous attempts.

This card has to hold me out until starcraft 2/ diablo 3

So i've decided that I want a card by the END of this week.

Specs: 2.9ghz opteron 144 single core
2gb ram
3007wfp (25x16)

So, what i'm looking at

4850 1gb vs 4870 512

4850 1gb vs 9800

4850 512mb vs 9800

The bottleneck here is obviously my cpu. but I figured since i'm going for 25x16, it might not be terrible?

what to do?

I don't play crysis,

I play Halo PC, DMC4, BF2142, TF2, and I was wondering if i could play my x264 mkv files with the cards, since my cpu can't keep up at times


UPDATE:::

OK, I received the 4870 yesturday 12:10pm. I have not slept since then, I just completed DMC4 in Devil Hunter mode.

I LOVE this FANTABULOUS card. 25x16 8xtrqaa Consistent 60fps.

I will provide with benchmark screenshot saturday afternoon, as I am at school now, tired, and seeing demons everywhere still.

Haven't had time to play any other games.

I am VERY confident that any gamer with 2.9ghz opteron singlecore, OR above, are NOT bottlenecked should they choose to upgrade to a new videocard. And No one should be able to convince you that 10fps is worth an entire platform overhaul. (ram, mb, cpu)

---/except for extreme situations such as crysis and supcom, both of which are m00t since crysis is NOT truely playable with all eyecandy on at 25x16 on any affordable graphics platform, and supcom is a 6.5/10 RTS at best. Graphics in Supcom is fancy, effects galore, but the art is antiquated and distasteful.

 
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Calculator83

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Originally posted by: happy medium
At that resolution look at the 4870 1gb or 280gtx.
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I don't mind not having AA, since it's still 25x16.

The thing is cuz of my cpu, i feel that the 4870 is pretty much lost on me anyways, so what difference would the extra 512 make at 60 dollars extra.
 
happy medium

happy medium

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Originally posted by: Calculator83
The cards just kept coming out and i couldn't make a decision even after numerous attempts.

This card has to hold me out until starcraft 2/ diablo 3

So i've decided that I want a card by the END of this week.

Specs: 2.9ghz opteron 144 single core
2gb ram
3007wfp (25x16)

So, what i'm looking at

4850 1gb vs 4870 512

4850 1gb vs 9800

4850 512mb vs 9800

The bottleneck here is obviously my cpu. but I figured since i'm going for 25x16, it might not be terrible?

what to do?

I don't play crysis,

I play Halo PC, DMC4, BF2142, TF2, and I was wondering if i could play my x264 mkv files with the cards, since my cpu can't keep up at times
Click to expand...

Sorry ,I didn't see this part. A 4850/9800gtx should be fine for these games with no AA. whichever is cheaper.
 
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Calculator83

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Originally posted by: happy medium
Originally posted by: Calculator83
The cards just kept coming out and i couldn't make a decision even after numerous attempts.

This card has to hold me out until starcraft 2/ diablo 3

So i've decided that I want a card by the END of this week.

Specs: 2.9ghz opteron 144 single core
2gb ram
3007wfp (25x16)

So, what i'm looking at

4850 1gb vs 4870 512

4850 1gb vs 9800

4850 512mb vs 9800

The bottleneck here is obviously my cpu. but I figured since i'm going for 25x16, it might not be terrible?

what to do?

I don't play crysis,

<I play Halo PC, DMC4, BF2142, TF2, and I was wondering if i could play my x264 mkv files with the cards, since my cpu can't keep up at times
Click to expand...

Sorry ,I didn't see this part. A 4850/9800gtx should be fine for these games with no AA. whichever is cheaper.
Click to expand...

would the 1gb 4850 make a diff for me at 25x16?
 
happy medium

happy medium

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There must be a reason why they don't include the 4850 at 2560x1600 res.

Mabe because it's pathetic? I don't know:confused:

Edit: ripped from the article.........

As you can see, the Radeon HD 4870 and GeForce GTX 260 both deliver comfortable performance at 2560x1600 with 4x FSAA in seven out of the 15 tests. In the remaining eight games the $299 cards are either barely short of the comfortable level or downright slow. Note also that it is only in rare cases that one of these cards enjoys an overwhelming advantage over the other.

heres more............

Choosing between the GeForce GTX 260 and Radeon HD 4870 for playing at 2560x1600 with 4x FSAA, the former is better in five applications while the latter, in three. So, the GeForce GTX 260 may be considered a formal leader in this competition although your choice should be based on the particular games you are intending to play.

I guess whichever card is cheaper?


edit; 4850 VS 4870 VS 9800GTX


http://www.guru3d.com/article/...-4870-review-force3d/8
 
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4870 1 GB or GTX 260 or GTX 216, whatever is the best deal.

Your CPU will hold you back bigtime, but for 2560x1600, you don't get 512 MB cards, at least not if you like playing newer games.

You really need a whole system upgrade though.
 
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You should get a dual core. AMD side is so cheap these days. Most modern games use dual cores and you would get 50% improvement on frame rates even at that resolution.

Without AA I think you should go for 260gtx considering it is around same price as 4870 512. In raw frame rates I think it does a little better than 4870. Don't quote on me that though.
 
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Originally posted by: Azn
You should get a dual core. AMD side is so cheap these days. Most modern games use dual cores and you would get 50% improvement on frame rates even at that resolution.

Without AA I think you should go for 260gtx considering it is around same price as 4870 512. In raw frame rates I think it does a little better than 4870. Don't quote on me that though.
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From what i've seen overall the 4870 512 MB is still generally faster.

But it won't be smoother at 2560x1600, as it'll choke on lack of vRAM in some newer titles @ native 2560x1600.

So i'd agree on a GTX 260 over 4870 512 MB purely because of vRAM.

At a lower resolution, i wouldn't...
 
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Calculator83

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aight, i just bought the 4870 512 $244 on egg. thx all. hopefully i'll get more frames on halo pc and pwn more n00bs.
 
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Originally posted by: Calculator83
aight, i just bought the 4870 512 $244 on egg. thx all. hopefully i'll get more frames on halo pc and pwn more n00bs.
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Now all you need to do is get another cpu+mobo. Like Azn already said, the AMD dual core side is so cheap these days, if you're lacking money.
 
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Calculator83

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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: Calculator83
aight, i just bought the 4870 512 $244 on egg. thx all. hopefully i'll get more frames on halo pc and pwn more n00bs.
Click to expand...

Now all you need to do is get another cpu+mobo. Like Azn already said, the AMD dual core side is so cheap these days, if you're lacking money.
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is difference really that big in the games that i play?

I play Halo PC, DMC4, BF2142, TF2, and I was wondering if i could play my x264 mkv files with the cards, since my cpu can't keep up at times
 
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Calculator83

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Originally posted by: happy medium
none..not to sure about tf2.

Never mind it uses one core..

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1272686

EDIT: 4870 is a good choice ..Good luck and let me know how it goes.
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Wo, just saw a deal on Bestbuy, 224.99 for the same visiontek card.

Shipping + tax (dame jersey) comes out to 246, but I don't have to wait for Rebate.

Does anyone know if an HR03gt will fit on a 4870

Does it run cool on it's own,, and can I oc it a bit with the hr03
 
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Originally posted by: Calculator83
Originally posted by: happy medium
none..not to sure about tf2.

Never mind it uses one core..

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1272686

EDIT: 4870 is a good choice ..Good luck and let me know how it goes.
Click to expand...

Wo, just saw a deal on Bestbuy, 224.99 for the same visiontek card.

Shipping + tax (dame jersey) comes out to 246, but I don't have to wait for Rebate.

Does anyone know if an HR03gt will fit on a 4870

Does it run cool on it's own,, and can I oc it a bit with the hr03
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Just got my 4870 1GB a day ago, but I can tell you stock cooler is very strong. The only downfall is the stock cooler can get pretty loud even at slow speeds. With proper adjustments it's should get similar noise to temp ratios that my 8800GTS had, which is fine by me.

I doubt the HR03GT will give you more OC than the stock cooler.
 
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Originally posted by: Calculator83
Originally posted by: happy medium
none..not to sure about tf2.

Never mind it uses one core..

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1272686

EDIT: 4870 is a good choice ..Good luck and let me know how it goes.
Click to expand...

Wo, just saw a deal on Bestbuy, 224.99 for the same visiontek card.

Shipping + tax (dame jersey) comes out to 246, but I don't have to wait for Rebate.

Does anyone know if an HR03gt will fit on a 4870

Does it run cool on it's own,, and can I oc it a bit with the hr03
Click to expand...

The HR-03 fits the 4870 and keeps the GPU very cool. However, the rest of the card is boiling , having places with more then 100C, since the heatsink is very far from the PCB itself and there is not much flow of air over it. The biggest problem with this cooler is to cool down the VRMs that are reaching around 100C with the HR-03 provided heatsinks, on them. So I would stay away from this Thermalright for the 4870, because you are risking the cards lifespan.

Just play with the stock fan, making it spin faster when you are gaming and you can overclock the card and also keep it cool in the same time, having all the hot air exhausted outside.
 
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Calculator83

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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: Calculator83
Originally posted by: happy medium
none..not to sure about tf2.

Never mind it uses one core..

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1272686

EDIT: 4870 is a good choice ..Good luck and let me know how it goes.
Click to expand...

Wo, just saw a deal on Bestbuy, 224.99 for the same visiontek card.

Shipping + tax (dame jersey) comes out to 246, but I don't have to wait for Rebate.

Does anyone know if an HR03gt will fit on a 4870

Does it run cool on it's own,, and can I oc it a bit with the hr03
Click to expand...

The HR-03 fits the 4870 and keeps the GPU very cool. However, the rest of the card is boiling , having places with more then 100C, since the heatsink is very far from the PCB itself and there is not much flow of air over it. The biggest problem with this cooler is to cool down the VRMs that are reaching around 100C with the HR-03 provided heatsinks, on them. So I would stay away from this Thermalright for the 4870, because you are risking the cards lifespan.

Just play with the stock fan, making it spin faster when you are gaming and you can overclock the card and also keep it cool in the same time, having all the hot air exhausted outside.
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I just looked at the OC stats for the card, and it's 2mhz per % increase in frames. Not bad. so Even if I get a fan to blow on the ram sinks No go?
 
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