I Am VERY Opinionated, Is That Bad?

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kranky

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Could the comment have been meant as "you don't respect the opinions of others"? Who isn't opinionated? Everyone has opinions!

I also hold some strong opinions, but you can't tell people who don't agree that they are wrong - well, not all the time, anyway. Don't see how counseling could hurt, even if it's only to better understand how others see you. That's always a good thing, IMHO.

Russ, you're killing me! :)
 

Czar

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<< Which is, of course, the single most important aspect to my existence. I spend countless hours in worrisome thought, concerned only that my opinion would mean something to you.

Russ, NCNE
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Oh I´m so sorry that I´v made you worry, ofcorse I should have thought about you and what you feel ever since I registered here on AT.
 

swayinOtis

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it depends on who you are dealing with. some like it, some don't. the trick is figuring out how to talk to the different people in your life.

i'm like you. when i was younger i was right and that's all there was to it. i'd argue the time of day sometimes. :) the older i got the more i realized how dumb that was.

i think some people admire those who stick to their guns and have strong convictions (look at Bill O'Reilly, for example. many people like him for that very reason). you just have to know when to stick to them, and when to concede. don't ever get to the point in your life where you can't admit someone else is right and that you were wrong. it's hard! and don't be afraid to change your mind based on what someone else said to you.

being stubborn will not get you very far in life. be flexible.
 

Russ

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<< ofcorse I should have thought about you and what you feel ever since I registered here on AT. >>



Damn straight, turd. See that you don't forget again.

Russ, NCNE
 

Czar

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<< ofcorse I should have thought about you and what you feel ever since I registered here on AT. >>



Damn straight, turd. See that you don't forget again.

Russ, NCNE
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See Russ, this attitute makes LordMaul angry so lets try to stop being so impolite. Read his thread if you have forgotten (Link), he makes some realy strong points there.
 

Ornery

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Oh man, if I didn't respect this person so much, I wouldn't give it a second thought. The counseling is to help me be more tolerant. That's it in a nutshell, I guess. But this thing about being opinionated kind of hit home when it was brought up. Actually, I'm hoping to get some hypnotherapy. I'm kinda looking forward to it...
 

Elita1

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Azraele makes a good point.
I believe TACT plays a major role in how receptive people are to one's opinion.

I think you could be opinionated, but as long as the delivery was respectful/tactful, it would prevent most arguments.
Unless, of course, one deals with hotheads who love to pick fights no matter what.
Not that I've seen ANYTHING like that 'round these parts!;)
 

Migroo

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<< Oh man, if I didn't respect this person so much, I wouldn't give it a second thought. The counseling is to help me be more tolerant. That's it in a nutshell, I guess. But this thing about being opinionated kind of hit home when it was brought up. Actually, I'm hoping to get some hypnotherapy. I'm kinda looking forward to it... >>



Ornery just dont start to believe that there is something wrong with you, as that can be soul destroying.
Just think of it the counselling as a suggestion to think laterally about opinions :)
 

Russ

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<< this attitute makes LordMaul angry so lets try to stop being so impolite. Read his thread if you have forgotten (Link), he makes some realy strong points there. >>



Yeah, Czar, I'll jump right on that since, second only to yours, his opinion is of critical import.

Russ, NCNE

 

Czar

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<< this attitute makes LordMaul angry so lets try to stop being so impolite. Read his thread if you have forgotten (Link), he makes some realy strong points there. >>



Yeah, Czar, I'll jump right on that since, second only to yours, his opinion is of critical import.

Russ, NCNE
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Must be great up there were your ego is, probably get a fantastic view over your wasteland.
 

Geekbabe

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<< Azraele makes a good point.
I believe TACT plays a major role in how receptive people are to one's opinion.

I think you could be opinionated, but as long as the delivery was respectful/tactful, it would prevent most arguments.
Unless, of course, one deals with hotheads who love to pick fights no matter what.
Not that I've seen ANYTHING like that 'round these parts!;)
>>




Lol, move over and pass me the popcorn :D
 

GrumpyMan

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I think that they just thought that you weren't very diplomatic. It's a learned artform and you'll get better with time. It comes along with age. All though I don't know what your age is, it takes some people longer than others. No big deal really, you'll be fine.
 

eyecandy

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I would pretty much agree with everyone that is saying that it's how you come across. I'm very opinionated as well, but I the trick is knowing when you're being pushy about it and when you're just stating your opinion. You have to be willing to listen to the other side as well.

~Chelsea
 

Russ

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<< Must be great up there were your ego is, probably get a fantastic view over your wasteland. >>



Wasteland? Isn't that where you live? Do you guys even have indoor toilets?

Russ, NCNE

 

NakaNaka

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It's good to have an opinion, ugh I hate people that don't care either way. Old GF was like that, at first I thought she was easy going then it just got old.
 

Moonbeam

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Personally, Ornery, I rather like your opinions. I always read what you say and I like the person I imagine in my head that says the things you say. I see you as a person with personal integrity. Take this thread as an example. You did the unthinkable, you exposed vulnerability, need, self questioning, curiosity, and weakness. You are going to counseling. Somebody in the world matters to you. My God , man, you're human, you care, you have feelings. I salute you.

As to your question, I think your heart is already way ahead of your head. If we could sit together and talk something like this through, the direction I would try to head the conversation is in getting you to explore how YOU feel about your opinions, not what I think. As a general principle of human relationships, though, I think things are something like this. There may be something about you that bothers me, lets say, hypothetically, your too opinionated. There may be something in you, also hypothetically, some insecurity, let's say, that causes you to compensate by expressing yourself with extreme (masking) vehemence. It would be kind of like your personality. I on the other hand may have grown up wioth a very opinionated father whonever let me get a thought in edgewise. When I'm around you I feel intimidated, powerless and stupid. You might tell me that I should stand up more for myself and say what I think. I might tell you to shove it up your, well you know. So we head off to get some help.

My point of view is this. The fact that you are opinionated may spring from some unconsciously unresolved problem in your psyche. That is your problem and if I were totally healthy it wouldn't bother me in the slightest that you have that problem. It's your problem. But because I'm not healthy in this area, I have a prior feeling of inferiority around opinionated people, and can't relax my guard for fear they will put me down, I react in some unhealthy manner which is totally my problem, but because you may be unhealthy in the area of my response, you'll give my your opinion of what you think of that. So around we go. The healthy way out is for each of us to take responsibility for any hurt we feel, that's our problem, while acknowledging that we may be radiating unhealthy vibes that cause others problems. The idea is to get off the blame game. It's the other person's fault, it's him or her that causes us to feel bad. No, they are only trigering old pain that is our responsibility. It doesn't mean they aren't nuts, it just means that they have that right and it needn't bother us. We don't ever win by changing them, we win by changing ourselves. Through self work and acknowledgment of the old pain, feeling it, we can completely transform the way we react to the world. Good luck to you, sir.
 

heartsurgeon

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i have a friend who is a psychologist whi tells me that that they no longer recommend that people "speak their mind" and "get things out into the open" when it relates to the workplace, because the net result was alot of people losing their jobs! i suppose the same applies to family relationships as well.

the best advice i ever got from my psychologist friend was that a comment is not worth making unless it gets you one step closer to your goal (whatever that is). decide what your priorities and goals in life are, and work towards those goals. if expressing your "opinions" doesn't further those goals, keep your opinions to yourself...you'll end up being better liked and happier as well. this may all sound strange to you, but believe me it works.
 

Zenmervolt

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<<The counseling is to help me be more tolerant.>>

In that case, my advice (for what it's worth, which is admittedly nothing) is to avoid it. Judging from what I have read of your posts I have a very hard time believing that you are a terribly intolerant person. As I see things, one of the larger problems with people today is that they have become too thin-skinned, and rather than admit this, they attack people who dare to speak plainly. Tact is one thing, walking on eggshells all the time for fear of offending someone is quite another. What the people who push tolerance seem to really want is tolerance for moral decay; tolerance for the poor kid who steals instead of working his way up, tolerance for the terrorists who hate this country, tolerance for the murderer who had a bad childhood... It just doesn't always sit right with me.

ZV
 

Ornery

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Sorry to bail out so abruptly, but my wife chose 10:00PM last night to discuss this very problem. It has been festering since Christmas. Apparently, I'm very poor at hiding what I'm thinking. It's not enough to keep your mouth shut and opinions to yourself, you have to go beyond that and I either can't or won't.

Thanks to you all, especially, jobberd, Migroo and Moonbeam (very nice) for helping me hash this out, and thanks for the laughs to the rest of you ;)

I've learned so far that I am:
  • VERY opinionated
  • Not tactful
  • Intolerant
  • Easy to read
  • A strict disciplinarian
  • Intolerant...
After kicking this all around with my wife I concluded that I WILL TRY to make some changes. She knows I mean it and we're patched up as much as can be in this situation. I'm also squared away with the person I mentioned before, and am generally on the right path.

I want this hypnotherapist to help me see things from a different angle. I don't want to fake my way through social gatherings, I want to genuinely be sociable! My wife says she never really gets angry, but clams up or looks the other way when she disagrees with people, their methods or habits. She's always ready to give those people the benefit of a doubt. I guess everybody is different, but my current way of dealing with differences is driving a wedge in the family. It can't continue this way without causing major damage. Being honest about your feelings and even being right is not good enough. heartsurgeon touched on that in his post.

So, have I answered my own question yet? Being VERY opinionated is not the problem in itself. At least that's the way I see it now. When all this is behind me, I'm sure I'll still be opinionated, but with a good dose of temperament for social acceptability.