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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: luvly
Anyone see that chick Melissa on ET tonight? Some of you may have heard her story before. Oh my! I have never seen that kind of anorexic before. I don't blame anyone for thinking it's all an act to get publicity, so as to accomplish her goal careerwise. I could not believe what I saw. They'll show more tomorrow. I like her doctor for the tough intervention. She needs someone to talk senses into her head. Wow! She sounds pretty strong for an anorexic lady who looks like an old person with osteoporosis.

Here are pictures: Melissa DeHart*

*Not for the faint-hearted! She weighs about 56 - 58 Lbs. She was 135 Lbs when she was 17 years old and before she began dieting.

Story on ET: Melissa;

Melissa's Take;

Definitely Improved.

It's honestly hard for me to understand this whole thing. Why do people feel they must look like someone? In the USA especially, there's a tendency to appeal to vanity. Celebrities are elevated to a god-like status. I can't understand? Isn't it easy to see that people are human? They having money or material things doesn't exclude them of the human suffering (abstract) and limitation. You're a good actor is just that, nothing more. It says nothing about your inner self. The media and its sensationalism is only trying to make ends meet like any other entity. You don't need to copy everything the media shows or endorses. Maybe people need a little more lectures on critical thinking? I just don't get it. Ugh!

P.S.: Geekbabe, I hope you aren't upset that I posted the above here. I'm flabbergasted. . . .


It's easy for you to speak Luvly,you live among the 1% of the female population that was blessed with
a model physique.The rest of us are bombarded daily with the message that if we buy this product or that outfit or try this diet product then we'll have a shot at looking half as good as the people we see gracing movie screens and magazine covers.Look at advertising,they make it seem like the entire world is filled with all these incredible looking people,note how seldom you see clothing modeled by a woman who looks even remotely like anybody the average person would know in real life.Watch tv for a few evenings straight and tell me you don't come away feeling fat or dowdy and unattractive in comparisionto the stars you see.

Why do people buy into it you ask,because we're human,we all want to greater or lesser degrees to feel attractive and garner at least a bit of the sunshine that beauty can bestow upon a person.

Inner beauty is a lot more attractive than outer beauty.

Haven't you ever met someone you think is physically attractive but when you get to know them you find them ugly?

If you're not one of the lucky 1% that's genetically blessed, accept your lot in life and work on the things you can change, like being a better person. In the long run, I think that will make you more attractive than trying to force fit yourself into something you'll never be.

Sorry but appearances do matter and I have no intention of merely "accepting my lot in life" 🙂

Sure they matter, but they are not the end and be all. Everyone should strive to be healthy and phyically fit, but to drive yourself towards some unrealistic goal is foolish and a waste of time and energy, in my opinion.

Some are born with movie-star good looks and a perfect physique and some aren't. I know that I wasn't and I suspect that you weren't either.

If I'm wrong, make sure to let me know when you hit the big screen or grace the cover of a fashion magazine.
 
Sorry but appearances do matter and I have no intention of merely "accepting my lot in life
I'm sorry, but I think beauty goes far deeper than the mere surface. I can look at a truly beautiful person on the outside, and still find them repulsive because of who they are on the inside.

As for Melissa, it's good she's trying to get better. That sort of lifestyle is very disturbing and unhealthy.
 
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: luvly
Anyone see that chick Melissa on ET tonight? Some of you may have heard her story before. Oh my! I have never seen that kind of anorexic before. I don't blame anyone for thinking it's all an act to get publicity, so as to accomplish her goal careerwise. I could not believe what I saw. They'll show more tomorrow. I like her doctor for the tough intervention. She needs someone to talk senses into her head. Wow! She sounds pretty strong for an anorexic lady who looks like an old person with osteoporosis.

Here are pictures: Melissa DeHart*

*Not for the faint-hearted! She weighs about 56 - 58 Lbs. She was 135 Lbs when she was 17 years old and before she began dieting.

Story on ET: Melissa;

Melissa's Take;

Definitely Improved.

It's honestly hard for me to understand this whole thing. Why do people feel they must look like someone? In the USA especially, there's a tendency to appeal to vanity. Celebrities are elevated to a god-like status. I can't understand? Isn't it easy to see that people are human? They having money or material things doesn't exclude them of the human suffering (abstract) and limitation. You're a good actor is just that, nothing more. It says nothing about your inner self. The media and its sensationalism is only trying to make ends meet like any other entity. You don't need to copy everything the media shows or endorses. Maybe people need a little more lectures on critical thinking? I just don't get it. Ugh!

P.S.: Geekbabe, I hope you aren't upset that I posted the above here. I'm flabbergasted. . . .


It's easy for you to speak Luvly,you live among the 1% of the female population that was blessed with
a model physique.The rest of us are bombarded daily with the message that if we buy this product or that outfit or try this diet product then we'll have a shot at looking half as good as the people we see gracing movie screens and magazine covers.Look at advertising,they make it seem like the entire world is filled with all these incredible looking people,note how seldom you see clothing modeled by a woman who looks even remotely like anybody the average person would know in real life.Watch tv for a few evenings straight and tell me you don't come away feeling fat or dowdy and unattractive in comparisionto the stars you see.

Why do people buy into it you ask,because we're human,we all want to greater or lesser degrees to feel attractive and garner at least a bit of the sunshine that beauty can bestow upon a person.

Inner beauty is a lot more attractive than outer beauty.

Haven't you ever met someone you think is physically attractive but when you get to know them you find them ugly?

If you're not one of the lucky 1% that's genetically blessed, accept your lot in life and work on the things you can change, like being a better person. In the long run, I think that will make you more attractive than trying to force fit yourself into something you'll never be.

Sorry but appearances do matter and I have no intention of merely "accepting my lot in life" 🙂
I don't know about the rest of you but the first word that came to my mind was VAIN when I saw that :disgust:

For people to have good hygene and take care of their body and have a BALANCED diet to go with it is an important physical appearance yes. But trying to cut down to something you are not is just grosse...Grow up.. and act "Middle Aged" if you really are. :disgust:

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
 
Even if we are born 'perfect' our physical beauty will soon fade. We have to learn to love ourselves (AND take care of what we have) so when we are 97 with wrinkled skin we can still do wonders in the sack 😀
 
Originally posted by: whaleskinrug
Even if we are born 'perfect' our physical beauty will soon fade. We have to learn to love ourselves (AND take care of what we have)
I agree. No one can be beautiful forever. It's what's inside that counts in the end.
 
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: luvly
Anyone see that chick Melissa on ET tonight? Some of you may have heard her story before. Oh my! I have never seen that kind of anorexic before. I don't blame anyone for thinking it's all an act to get publicity, so as to accomplish her goal careerwise. I could not believe what I saw. They'll show more tomorrow. I like her doctor for the tough intervention. She needs someone to talk senses into her head. Wow! She sounds pretty strong for an anorexic lady who looks like an old person with osteoporosis.

Here are pictures: Melissa DeHart*

*Not for the faint-hearted! She weighs about 56 - 58 Lbs. She was 135 Lbs when she was 17 years old and before she began dieting.

Story on ET: Melissa;

Melissa's Take;

Definitely Improved.

It's honestly hard for me to understand this whole thing. Why do people feel they must look like someone? In the USA especially, there's a tendency to appeal to vanity. Celebrities are elevated to a god-like status. I can't understand? Isn't it easy to see that people are human? They having money or material things doesn't exclude them of the human suffering (abstract) and limitation. You're a good actor is just that, nothing more. It says nothing about your inner self. The media and its sensationalism is only trying to make ends meet like any other entity. You don't need to copy everything the media shows or endorses. Maybe people need a little more lectures on critical thinking? I just don't get it. Ugh!

P.S.: Geekbabe, I hope you aren't upset that I posted the above here. I'm flabbergasted. . . .


It's easy for you to speak Luvly,you live among the 1% of the female population that was blessed with
a model physique.The rest of us are bombarded daily with the message that if we buy this product or that outfit or try this diet product then we'll have a shot at looking half as good as the people we see gracing movie screens and magazine covers.Look at advertising,they make it seem like the entire world is filled with all these incredible looking people,note how seldom you see clothing modeled by a woman who looks even remotely like anybody the average person would know in real life.Watch tv for a few evenings straight and tell me you don't come away feeling fat or dowdy and unattractive in comparisionto the stars you see.

Why do people buy into it you ask,because we're human,we all want to greater or lesser degrees to feel attractive and garner at least a bit of the sunshine that beauty can bestow upon a person.

Inner beauty is a lot more attractive than outer beauty.

Haven't you ever met someone you think is physically attractive but when you get to know them you find them ugly?

If you're not one of the lucky 1% that's genetically blessed, accept your lot in life and work on the things you can change, like being a better person. In the long run, I think that will make you more attractive than trying to force fit yourself into something you'll never be.

Sorry but appearances do matter and I have no intention of merely "accepting my lot in life" 🙂
I don't know about the rest of you but the first word that came to my mind was VAIN when I saw that :disgust:

For people to have good hygene and take care of their body and have a BALANCED diet to go with it is an important physical appearance yes. But trying to cut down to something you are not is just grosse...Grow up.. and act "Middle Aged" if you really are. :disgust:
So when one hits middle aged they should not try to look their best?
rolleye.gif
 
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: luvly
Anyone see that chick Melissa on ET tonight? Some of you may have heard her story before. Oh my! I have never seen that kind of anorexic before. I don't blame anyone for thinking it's all an act to get publicity, so as to accomplish her goal careerwise. I could not believe what I saw. They'll show more tomorrow. I like her doctor for the tough intervention. She needs someone to talk senses into her head. Wow! She sounds pretty strong for an anorexic lady who looks like an old person with osteoporosis.

Here are pictures: Melissa DeHart*

*Not for the faint-hearted! She weighs about 56 - 58 Lbs. She was 135 Lbs when she was 17 years old and before she began dieting.

Story on ET: Melissa;

Melissa's Take;

Definitely Improved.

It's honestly hard for me to understand this whole thing. Why do people feel they must look like someone? In the USA especially, there's a tendency to appeal to vanity. Celebrities are elevated to a god-like status. I can't understand? Isn't it easy to see that people are human? They having money or material things doesn't exclude them of the human suffering (abstract) and limitation. You're a good actor is just that, nothing more. It says nothing about your inner self. The media and its sensationalism is only trying to make ends meet like any other entity. You don't need to copy everything the media shows or endorses. Maybe people need a little more lectures on critical thinking? I just don't get it. Ugh!

P.S.: Geekbabe, I hope you aren't upset that I posted the above here. I'm flabbergasted. . . .


It's easy for you to speak Luvly,you live among the 1% of the female population that was blessed with
a model physique.The rest of us are bombarded daily with the message that if we buy this product or that outfit or try this diet product then we'll have a shot at looking half as good as the people we see gracing movie screens and magazine covers.Look at advertising,they make it seem like the entire world is filled with all these incredible looking people,note how seldom you see clothing modeled by a woman who looks even remotely like anybody the average person would know in real life.Watch tv for a few evenings straight and tell me you don't come away feeling fat or dowdy and unattractive in comparisionto the stars you see.

Why do people buy into it you ask,because we're human,we all want to greater or lesser degrees to feel attractive and garner at least a bit of the sunshine that beauty can bestow upon a person.

Inner beauty is a lot more attractive than outer beauty.

Haven't you ever met someone you think is physically attractive but when you get to know them you find them ugly?

If you're not one of the lucky 1% that's genetically blessed, accept your lot in life and work on the things you can change, like being a better person. In the long run, I think that will make you more attractive than trying to force fit yourself into something you'll never be.

Sorry but appearances do matter and I have no intention of merely "accepting my lot in life" 🙂
I don't know about the rest of you but the first word that came to my mind was VAIN when I saw that :disgust:

For people to have good hygene and take care of their body and have a BALANCED diet to go with it is an important physical appearance yes. But trying to cut down to something you are not is just grosse...Grow up.. and act "Middle Aged" if you really are. :disgust:

Hey vanity is my favorite of the seven deadly sins🙂

 
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
There are plenty of hotties out there in a size 6. Being a size 2 is by no means charasmatic by default... It's a good start at a Budweiser commercial tryout though 😉

Charisma isn't what we're talking about (it's a secondary quality and is not the same as physical attractiveness). The OP wrote that appearances matter. It's sad but true.
 
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
There are plenty of hotties out there in a size 6. Being a size 2 is by no means charasmatic by default... It's a good start at a Budweiser commercial tryout though 😉

Charisma isn't what we're talking about (it's a secondary quality and is not the same as physical attractiveness). The OP wrote that appearances matter. It's sad but true.

I interact with a lot of people on a daily basis.Now maybe it's because I'm fairly tall or because my peers are more observant than most folks but I get frequent comments on things like my clothing,haircolor etc,hell in summer people would even notice and comment on toe nail polish colors.
When you work with people and are expected to have CS skills appearances do matter!
 
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
There are plenty of hotties out there in a size 6. Being a size 2 is by no means charasmatic by default... It's a good start at a Budweiser commercial tryout though 😉

Charisma isn't what we're talking about (it's a secondary quality and is not the same as physical attractiveness). The OP wrote that appearances matter. It's sad but true.


Appearances matter until you open your mouth. Beauty is way more than just outward appearance.

By the way, when you're in need of CS, what's more important to you, looks or competence?

Why would I care what dress size someone wears or what color their toe nails are painted if they can't fulfill my needs?

This thread reminds me of the movie "Shallow Hal". Rent it if you haven't seen it.



 
What the hell is with this crap of how much weight matters? I'm sorry but 95% of guys I know would rather have a average fit female over a skinny freakin twig. Girls do it to themselves... Most guys I know would probably prefer a size 2 or 4 girl over a size 0... size 2 or 4 is very healthy and attractive looking IMO. Not to mention the fact that making love to someone who is size 0 is like slamming yourself into a bag of rocks. It is neither healthy or attractive IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Dulanic
What the hell is with this crap of how much weight matters? I'm sorry but 95% of guys I know would rather have a average fit female over a skinny freakin twig. Girls do it to themselves... Most guys I know would probably prefer a size 2 or 4 girl over a size 0... size 2 or 4 is very healthy and attractive looking IMO. Not to mention the fact that making love to someone who is size 0 is like slamming yourself into a bag of rocks. It is neither healthy or attractive IMO.

I have no clue what dress size my wife wears, nor do I care, so I guess I'm part of the 95%.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
There are plenty of hotties out there in a size 6. Being a size 2 is by no means charasmatic by default... It's a good start at a Budweiser commercial tryout though 😉

Charisma isn't what we're talking about (it's a secondary quality and is not the same as physical attractiveness). The OP wrote that appearances matter. It's sad but true.


Appearances matter until you open your mouth. Beauty is way more than just outward appearance.

By the way, when you're in need of CS, what's more important to you, looks or competence?

Why would I care what dress size someone wears or what color their toe nails are painted if they can't fulfill my needs?

This thread reminds me of the movie "Shallow Hal". Rent it if you haven't seen it.


I think ATOT has a preoccupation with relationships, which is fine, but I think you're missing the point. Forget about personal relationships, and think about people you will meet once or twice in your life, or people you just rarely interact with. Their judgements can make a difference in your life.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
There are plenty of hotties out there in a size 6. Being a size 2 is by no means charasmatic by default... It's a good start at a Budweiser commercial tryout though 😉

Charisma isn't what we're talking about (it's a secondary quality and is not the same as physical attractiveness). The OP wrote that appearances matter. It's sad but true.


Appearances matter until you open your mouth. Beauty is way more than just outward appearance.

By the way, when you're in need of CS, what's more important to you, looks or competence?

Why would I care what dress size someone wears or what color their toe nails are painted if they can't fulfill my needs?

This thread reminds me of the movie "Shallow Hal". Rent it if you haven't seen it.


You are missing the point which is that for work requiring that you interact with people a lot appearances do count and do make a difference.Given two people with equal skill levels but one with
an average to below average outward appearance and the other with above average looks and grooming who are you going to hire,which employee will you retain if layoff time comes? The answer in a field requiring interaction with clients is pretty easy.
 
I too am doing the South Beach, been on it a week and a half now but I haven't weighed yet. I'm waiting till the 2 week point to weigh and then see how I'm doing. I'm 6' and started out at 300lbs. although everyone that knows me says I don't look a lb. over 250. My goal is about 200-225 by the end of May.
Once I get down in weight a little I'm going to start bikeing, I do the GoFit ball and power tube workout now. I can tell I'm losing because the trousers fit looser and I can tell my neck is getting smaller.

Way to go your Geekness and don't let these guys get to you cause it pays to be a hottie.
 
Unless you just naturally have a very narrow frame, maybe instead of trying to get to a size 2, you should seek some counseling. You sound like you have a seriously distorted perception of what is healthy and what is not.
Being called fragile is NOT a compliment.

Most 5'9" women could be classified as anorexic at a size 2 or 4.
 
Originally posted by: Shanti
Unless you just naturally have a very narrow frame, maybe instead of trying to get to a size 2, you should seek some counseling. You sound like you have a seriously distorted perception of what is healthy and what is not.
Being called fragile is NOT a compliment.

Most 5'9" women could be classified as anorexic at a size 2 or 4.
She is of slight build and does have a delicate frame and she looks awesome right now, trust me!
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
There are plenty of hotties out there in a size 6. Being a size 2 is by no means charasmatic by default... It's a good start at a Budweiser commercial tryout though 😉

Charisma isn't what we're talking about (it's a secondary quality and is not the same as physical attractiveness). The OP wrote that appearances matter. It's sad but true.


Appearances matter until you open your mouth. Beauty is way more than just outward appearance.

By the way, when you're in need of CS, what's more important to you, looks or competence?

Why would I care what dress size someone wears or what color their toe nails are painted if they can't fulfill my needs?

This thread reminds me of the movie "Shallow Hal". Rent it if you haven't seen it.


You are missing the point which is that for work requiring that you interact with people a lot appearances do count and do make a difference.Given two people with equal skill levels but one with
an average to below average outward appearance and the other with above average looks and grooming who are you going to hire,which employee will you retain if layoff time comes? The answer in a field requiring interaction with clients is pretty easy.

I doubt that losing 25 lbs and dropping my waist size from 34 to 31 has increased my job security.

Delivering on my goals and committments certainly has.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

At first, that's what came to my mind, but it's not necessarily true.

The truth is, "good looking" people have advantages. They are perceived by others around them as more effective communicators, as more honest and successfull than their less attractive counterparts. IMO this everpresent superficiality is revolting, BUT short of exiting the matrix, there's little that an individual can do about it.
There are plenty of hotties out there in a size 6. Being a size 2 is by no means charasmatic by default... It's a good start at a Budweiser commercial tryout though 😉

Charisma isn't what we're talking about (it's a secondary quality and is not the same as physical attractiveness). The OP wrote that appearances matter. It's sad but true.


Appearances matter until you open your mouth. Beauty is way more than just outward appearance.

By the way, when you're in need of CS, what's more important to you, looks or competence?

Why would I care what dress size someone wears or what color their toe nails are painted if they can't fulfill my needs?

This thread reminds me of the movie "Shallow Hal". Rent it if you haven't seen it.


You are missing the point which is that for work requiring that you interact with people a lot appearances do count and do make a difference.Given two people with equal skill levels but one with
an average to below average outward appearance and the other with above average looks and grooming who are you going to hire,which employee will you retain if layoff time comes? The answer in a field requiring interaction with clients is pretty easy.

I doubt that losing 25 lbs and dropping my waist size from 34 to 31 has increased my job security.

Delivering on my goals and committments certainly has.


You aren't female... btw,I said all other things being equal,that includes goals and work ethic and you won't find a more dedicated employee than myself🙂
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Shanti
Unless you just naturally have a very narrow frame, maybe instead of trying to get to a size 2, you should seek some counseling. You sound like you have a seriously distorted perception of what is healthy and what is not.
Being called fragile is NOT a compliment.

Most 5'9" women could be classified as anorexic at a size 2 or 4.
She is of slight build and does have a delicate frame and she looks awesome right now, trust me!

In the words of the beloved Ronald Reagan, "trust but verify".

PICS!
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

So when one hits middle aged they should not try to look their best?
rolleye.gif
Red wake up!!

For people to have good hygene and take care of their body and have a BALANCED diet to go with it is an important physical appearance yes

read much??
 
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