I Am So Angry with Pain Control Doc Right Now

[brainhulk]

LOL. This might not be the best place to discuss my off-the-grid med usage.

Lost my insurance a while ago and have to actually pay for drugs - and suddenly buying them from my local is a lot more financially attractive. Last thing I bought on the street was insulin, which is hella expensive if you pay full price for it. Might as well buy heroin. Won't help the blood sugar, but at least I'll float out in style.

does your local have a portable refridgerator to drag around holding all the insulin?

 

[Nemesis 1]

So am I, LOL

Why are you online forum at work . Another slacker.

 

[brainhulk]

Why are you online forum at work . Another slacker.

why are you replying to yourself on an online forum.

wait nm, lol.

but yeah, this is how I pass the time when i'm not busy

 

[nanette1985]

does your local have a portable refridgerator to drag around holding all the insulin?

No. Perhaps he's a connection and sends me somewhere. But that's a great visual you bring up there. I can just picture a bling-covered refrigerator :thumbsup:

 

[Sust]

how much do you have to pay for er visits? you could fake you are going into DT's because your pain med doc refused to give you your methadone.

or you could just hook up with Tyrone for some heroin

Delirium Tremens typically occurs after months to years of chronic alcohol or benzodiazepine dependence and is not associated with opiate withdrawal. Coming into an ER with that complaint will not get you any narcotics. Again, no doctor wants to face the DEA who has demonized these medications. If it were up to doctors, then they'd probably hand out the pills for patients' pain/suffering, but your govt has decided to crack down on the illegal trade of narcotics.

Also, for those who see their pain medicine providers as pill pushers: In theory your primary care doc has already looked into causes of your pain after consultation with the appropriate medicine/surgical subspecialties and there is no simple solution for you w/o morbid complications. You were sent to the pain medicine doc to manage your symptoms so that you arent writhing in agony and able to live a semblance of a normal life in spite of your chronic pain. If you are interested in re-visiting surgical solutions for causes of the chronic pain then I suggest making an appointment with your primary care doctor b/c the pain management doctor is tasked with a very different responsibility in your care.

 

[BUTCH1]

I had a similar situation, except this place required that a nurse actually watch you go to the bathroom (they actually wanted to see the urine leave your body). I just couldn't do it.

I drank tons of water and tried to several times. After about 4 hours the pain was excruciating. I finally told the nurse I give up and to get out, so I could just pee. I failed that test

Luckily my employer was cool about it and waived the test.

Wow, we have randoms at work but no one has ever come into the stall and watch you pee, I thought that was illegal (unless your testing a part of probation sentence) or a previous test came back "diluted" as in you tried to cheat by water-loading..

 

[DaTT]

I was on Perc's for a 5 months or so. Maybe 10-15mg daily...sometimes 20mg. Nothing too bad, but when I ran out I decided I no longer needed them so I just stopped....big mistake.

I toughed it out for the three days, but I wasn't 100% for about 2 weeks.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Man guys I am in alot of pain but I don't need this stuff. Can't ya get by . You get use to it, God damn the legal pusher man . I never use that word as spelled. Time for me wife to go eat breakfeast . Take care guys God bless and eas your suffering.

 

[alkemyst]

You seem to have a lot of drama.

 

[Leros]

Wow, we have randoms at work but no one has ever come into the stall and watch you pee, I thought that was illegal (unless your testing a part of probation sentence) or a previous test came back "diluted" as in you tried to cheat by water-loading..

Nope. This was for an entry level engineering position at a large company. I thought it was kinda weird myself. It was the first and only drug test I've ever had to take at any job.

When the recruiter got the results of my drug test and I told them why I failed, they just waived it for me anyway. They said the results of the drug test weren't really important for salaried workers and that the drug test was just part of the standard company process for all new employees.

 

[chusteczka]

Try drinking more water. Then you will be able to pee when needed. It really is that simple. Your kidneys will thank you for it.

 

[Leros]

Try drinking more water. Then you will be able to pee when needed. It really is that simple. Your kidneys will thank you for it.

Doesn't work for everyone. During my drug test, I was in excruciating pain and still couldn't pee until the person left.

 

[olds]

I have 3 partially collapsed disks and arthritis in my back. The drugs they give me make me goofy so I won't take them. I use Tylenol, Aleve, aspirin and alcohol. They slightly mask the pain. Staying stretched out helps. Sometimes the pain is so great it makes me physically sick.

My wife suggested meditation and I had an idea. I now just ignore the pain. Mind over matter. It helps some but I still need the OTC drugs and Maker's Mark. I can power through the low grade pain and carry on with life. The intense pain is harder to ignore but if I am not physically sick, I still try.

 

[chusteczka]

You guys have it easy. Try being a fresh 18 year old noob in the military standing with a group of other nervous noobs trying to pee with a grizzly drill sergeant standing over you, literally watching you pee, wang in hand, to ensure you are not dipping the cup into the water in the base of the urinal.

 

[olds]

You guys have it easy. Try being a fresh 18 year old noob in the military standing with a group of other nervous noobs trying to pee with a grizzly drill sergeant standing over you, literally watching you pee, wang in hand, to ensure you are not dipping the cup into the water in the base of the urinal.

Been there, done that.

Plus, My last couple of months in the Army a friend got caught with hash. The 1st sergeant told him that if he named others that were smoking with him that he would go easier on him. The guy named some names and one of them was "Sgt oldsmoboat". The 1st Sergeant didn't believe him (I was squared away and the go to guy) and thought he was just pulling names out of his ass. He wasn't. He got court a court marshall and I got out of the regular Army. For a while I thought I'd get busted.

Hell, back then we could trade 8 cartons of cigarettes ($1.99 a carton, subsidized by the military) for a gram of coke on the German economy.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

I had a similar situation, except this place required that a nurse actually watch you go to the bathroom (they actually wanted to see the urine leave your body). I just couldn't do it.

I drank tons of water and tried to several times. After about 4 hours the pain was excruciating. I finally told the nurse I give up and to get out, so I could just pee. I failed that test

Luckily my employer was cool about it and waived the test.

I would have asked her for some personal "help"

 

[Zebo]

My brother is a pharmacist owns 3 pharmacies and owns a pain clinic employing a anesthesiologist and he can't get shit anymore. He used to sell 20,000 units a day of OXY now is relegated to like 300. All the other pharmacists he talks with same shit. They think it's DEA.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I have 3 partially collapsed disks and arthritis in my back. The drugs they give me make me goofy so I won't take them. I use Tylenol, Aleve, aspirin and alcohol. They slightly mask the pain. Staying stretched out helps. Sometimes the pain is so great it makes me physically sick.

My wife suggested meditation and I had an idea. I now just ignore the pain. Mind over matter. It helps some but I still need the OTC drugs and Maker's Mark. I can power through the low grade pain and carry on with life. The intense pain is harder to ignore but if I am not physically sick, I still try.

Same here . Last operation no more back pain . ya Right. Not now I can barely walk

 

[dmcowen674]

Drugs bad

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[911paramedic]

You seem to have a lot of drama.

You have no idea.

I'm guessing my sister told my father about this because he called today and was kind of hinting around until I told him what happened. He was pretty pissed and wanted their number. Pretty sad that I am 45 and my father is going to call them, but he really isn't somebody you want to get on the wrong side of.

This pain is something that I ended up taking nearly 3 grams of inderall over at the beginning of this year, it was by pure chance that anybody found out about that and called somebody. That's how bad, and how long, I've been dealing with this. It's no joke when every breath hurts.

I sure hope I can make it to Monday without going to the ER.

P.S. I did the military thing too, I was always the last one to finish. :|

 

[olds]

Same here . Last operation no more back pain . ya Right. Not now I can barely walk

Seems like a lot of people are worse off (scar tissue) after surgery. I won't get it till it gets to the point that I can't get myself out of bed.

 

[Zebo]

You're going in circles...I think.

The OP gets methadone from his pain management doc...

I made the comment that pain management sucks because it's all about pushing drugs, not about trying to fix the actual cause of the pain.



You started in about using methadone to wean addicts off of the opioids...but that's not the issue here. The issue is that his doctor prescribes methadone as the pain management drug...then you say it should only be prescribed by pain management doctors...

High profit margin. There aint shit in telling you to exercise and it will go away. Or in worst cases surgery which most docs can't do who are pushers.

I forget what he charges for "C'arm" injections it's either $2500 or $5000. machine only costs $65,000. His doctor only costs him $1500 a day. She does 20 injections a week. That's over a million a year in profit right there.

Then appointment is $150-$250 for the "right" persception. She see's 200 a week.

You do the math but that clinic nets over 2 million a year after paying doc 500K and we have not even started slinging drugs yet.

OXY margin is 120 costs $30 and my brother sells it for $220.

Birth control he makes $4.

 

[brainhulk]

You have no idea.

I'm guessing my sister told my father about this because he called today and was kind of hinting around until I told him what happened. He was pretty pissed and wanted their number. Pretty sad that I am 45 and my father is going to call them, but he really isn't somebody you want to get on the wrong side of.

This pain is something that I ended up taking nearly 3 grams of inderall over at the beginning of this year, it was by pure chance that anybody found out about that and called somebody. That's how bad, and how long, I've been dealing with this. It's no joke when every breath hurts.

I sure hope I can make it to Monday without going to the ER.

P.S. I did the military thing too, I was always the last one to finish. :|

Holy cow, that's a ton of inderal. U should be dead from that. Someone must have gotten you to the er fast

 

[Itchrelief]

On the way out I seen the cops . I walked over to one and said If you want me tested with a nurse present do on your dime. He never said a word.

Meh, why give the cops grief? They weren't the ones who mixed up the patients, was it? They probably didn't even know WTF you were talking about. As far as they knew, they brought a guy in and handed him off to the staff, then some other random guy comes running out throwing a hissy fit and gives them lip for unknown reasons.

Heck, maybe they even had a good laugh at you afterwards because they figured you were some doped-up anti-establishment jerk.

 

[Pliablemoose]

From what I understand, there are several issues with managing chronic pain.

With continuous pain signals going through the nerves, the nerves actually conduct the impulse more efficiently, so less and less stimuli = the same or more pain. Think of a small stream that creates a canyon over the years from erosion...

By the time most get to a pain doctor, this physiological change has already occurred and it's a losing game to control the pain without using powerful narcotics.

The people I work with that have chronic pain tend to have become hyper sensitive to all pain, and they to the person seem to have a major depressive disorder as well.

Honestly, they used to really piss me off, now I can't do enough for them...