I Am So Angry with Pain Control Doc Right Now

[brainhulk]

how much do you have to pay for er visits? you could fake you are going into DT's because your pain med doc refused to give you your methadone.

or you could just hook up with Tyrone for some heroin

 

[brainhulk]

That sucks. Nothing the docs can do about the cause of the pain?

Pain management pisses me off because it's all about pushing pills and shots...not correcting the cause of the problem.

not all the time, the purpose of methadone is to try to wean the person off opiates

 

[zanejohnson]

not all the time, the purpose of methadone is to try to wean the person off opiates

nah. it's called methadone maintainance for a reason... they dont want you to ever come off...bad for business...

 

[BoomerD]

That sucks. Nothing the docs can do about the cause of the pain?

Pain management pisses me off because it's all about pushing pills and shots...not correcting the cause of the problem.

not all the time, the purpose of methadone is to try to wean the person off opiates

WTF does that have to do with my post?

Methadone is often prescribed as a pain reliever, albeit one with many potential problems of its own, not only to step addicts off opioids. (legal or illegal)

 

[zanejohnson]

not all the time, the purpose of methadone is to try to wean the person off opiates

and methadone is an opiate.. just a synthetic one.. it's about as strong as heroin (diacetyl-morphine) mg per mg..except it has a half life of 24-72 hours, so the user doesnt have to redose as often... it was originally called adolphine, and later dolophine after you guessed it, hitler, it was first used heavily whenever the opium supply to nazi germany was disrupted, the had to synthesize an alternative, did a damn good job....

 

[brainhulk]

WTF does that have to do with my post?

Methadone is often prescribed as a pain reliever, albeit one with many potential problems of its own, not only to step addicts off opioids. (legal or illegal)

if addiction is the problem, weaning them off solves it

 

[Colt45]

They slowly taper you off.

for junkies here, they usually make you go to the pharmacy daily, and they give you a dose mixed with tang.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Sorry dude, the current mode sucks at pain management.

10 years ago, I would have told you to suck it up and get off of the methadone, now I'm a hell of a lot more empathetic.

Hang in there.

And WTF, just let them catheterize you, it's not as bad as detoxing.

 

[zanejohnson]

They slowly taper you off.

for junkies here, they usually make you go to the pharmacy daily, and they give you a dose mixed with tang.

when i was on it, it was methadose liquid cherry flavored.... they had NO INTENTION of taking me off, the worst thing that could happen was that i could test positive for benzodiazepenes (xanax, valium, klonopin) and they'd take my bi weekly take homes away....

i overdosed on accident, by eating a fentanyl patch.. 4 day coma, took a couple months to even be able to walk correctly again/have normal strength.. never touched opiates again...

 

[BoomerD]

if addiction is the problem, weaning them off solves it

Not really. Methadone is highly addictive...and very dangerous to use in pain management.

http://www.novusdetox.com/methadone-pain-management.php

 

[zanejohnson]

Not really. Methadone is highly addictive...and very dangerous to use in pain management.

http://www.novusdetox.com/methadone-pain-management.php

it's horrible, it's like the heroin life, without the chase.. your always high... always... all you gotta do is round up 10 bucks and a ride to the clinic in the morning..

 

[brainhulk]

Not really. Methadone is highly addictive...and very dangerous to use in pain management.

http://www.novusdetox.com/methadone-pain-management.php

that is why only specially trained pain management docs can prescribe it. Theoretically, to use it correctly.

whether they do or not, case by case basis I guess

 

[BoomerD]

that is why only specially trained pain management docs can prescribe it. Theoretically, to use it correctly.

whether they do or not, case by case basis I guess

You're going in circles...I think.

The OP gets methadone from his pain management doc...

I made the comment that pain management sucks because it's all about pushing drugs, not about trying to fix the actual cause of the pain.

That sucks. Nothing the docs can do about the cause of the pain?

Pain management pisses me off because it's all about pushing pills and shots...not correcting the cause of the problem.

You started in about using methadone to wean addicts off of the opioids...but that's not the issue here. The issue is that his doctor prescribes methadone as the pain management drug...then you say it should only be prescribed by pain management doctors...

 

[brainhulk]

You're going in circles...I think.

The OP gets methadone from his pain management doc...

I made the comment that pain management sucks because it's all about pushing drugs, not about trying to fix the actual cause of the pain.



You started in about using methadone to wean addicts off of the opioids...but that's not the issue here. The issue is that his doctor prescribes methadone as the pain management drug...then you say it should only be prescribed by pain management doctors...

yeah, but you made a generalization about all cases regarding pain management docs

 

[BoomerD]

yeah, but you made a generalization about all cases regarding pain management docs

Well of course...all generalizations are wrong...or are they? :sneaky:

I actually have a great pain management doc...but he's a fucking pill pusher, just like the rest. He DOES give great epidurals...and he "mixes a great cocktail" for the IV.
Nothing like a double shot of fentanyl and versed in the tube before getting stabbed in the back...:biggrin:

 

[brainhulk]

Well of course...all generalizations are wrong...or are they? :sneaky:

I actually have a great pain management doc...but he's a fucking pill pusher, just like the rest. He DOES give great epidurals...and he "mixes a great cocktail" for the IV.
Nothing like a double shot of fentanyl and versed in the tube before getting stabbed in the back...:biggrin:

don't hate the player, he has to pay the rent just like the rest of us. But sometimes they like to sprinkle in brief moments of altruism :biggrin:

 

[Number1]

hey, how come you guys are still up at this hour of the night? Are you high or something?

 

[brainhulk]

hey, how come you guys are still up at this hour of the night? Are you high or something?

i'm at work

 

[BoomerD]

hey, how come you guys are still up at this hour of the night? Are you high or something?

I just don't sleep much...

 

[Number1]

i'm at work

So am I, LOL

 

[Jules]

and methadone is an opiate.. just a synthetic one.. it's about as strong as heroin (diacetyl-morphine) mg per mg..except it has a half life of 24-72 hours, so the user doesnt have to redose as often... it was originally called adolphine, and later dolophine after you guessed it, hitler, it was first used heavily whenever the opium supply to nazi germany was disrupted, the had to synthesize an alternative, did a damn good job....

I could of sworn that was a urban legend.

 

[nanette1985]

so what do ya score? heroin #3?

LOL. This might not be the best place to discuss my off-the-grid med usage.

Lost my insurance a while ago and have to actually pay for drugs - and suddenly buying them from my local is a lot more financially attractive. Last thing I bought on the street was insulin, which is hella expensive if you pay full price for it. Might as well buy heroin. Won't help the blood sugar, but at least I'll float out in style.

 

[nanette1985]

hey, how come you guys are still up at this hour of the night? Are you high or something?

I'm in pain. Can't sleep.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Many years ago I stopped smoking pot After a month I wanted to see If I was clean . I went in and took test and failed so made another appointment. This time a male nurse came in . My exact words were what the fuck are you doing in here. He said I have to watch ya . I said I failed the last test and you have 3 seconds to get out of here or I will throw you out . When I was done I raised all sorts of hell . I told them all as they already new this was a SElf test . I was there on my own . They replied we were ordered to have a nurse come in , I said by who . Man the faces got red and I got no reply, They slipped up . On the way out I seen the cops . I walked over to one and said If you want me tested with a nurse present do on your dime. He never said a word.

 

[BoomerD]

I could of sworn that was a urban legend.

Pretty much...but don't argue with a druggie about street legends...

For the reasons given above, it is dishonest to state that “methadone” had widely been used during the war as a painkiller and a substitute for morphine under the trade name Dolophin (Dolophine), allegedly derived from Hitler’s first name Adolf. Also, stating that Amidon had been called Adolfin (Adolphine) among soldiers and civilian people is entirely unfounded. In fact, the name Adolphine was created in the US in the early 1970s:

“The invention of the term ‘Adolphine’ by New York City street linguists in the 1970s was an apparent attempt to discredit methadone treatment by those unsympathetic to it, using the Hitler association” (BYRNE 1995, 20; see also KLEBER 2002).

Commercial production was first introduced in 1947 by the US company Eli-Lilly. Only then methadone was given the trade name Dolophine, derived from the Latin dolor (pain) and finis (end).

http://www.indro-online.de/historymethadone.htm