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Kelvrick

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Feb 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: archcommus
Two questions:

What's special about the IT guy making 200k/year? Must be something special about him since no one believed he made that much.

and

Does Goosemaster not even care about losing a job that paid so well for a college guy?


What's special? How many IT guys do you know make 200k a year? For instance, my first job out of college, I started at a whopping $26,500 and that was with a BS and MS in Computer Science. Of course, I didn't stay there long. I have never met any IT guy that made over $50,000. I've met several contractors that make in the $100,000 to $200,000 but none of them are full time IT guys in a company.

Eh? I didn't think it was that low. IT as in what, help desk? My brother is a network admin for a plastic bottle manufacturing company with I think like 30+ plants (total guess going off fact they have like 7 in Cali and they used to be based in Austin until the move to Atlanta). He's in charge of the ones in southern california and I think the one they have in mid-cali and makes probably 80k salery and another I think 20k from his consulting at a mailing company.

I'm sure his boss, the one in charge of him and the others at his level should make like 150k at least.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Eh? I didn't think it was that low. IT as in what, help desk? My brother is a network admin for a plastic bottle manufacturing company with I think like 30+ plants (total guess going off fact they have like 7 in Cali and they used to be based in Austin until the move to Atlanta). He's in charge of the ones in southern california and I think the one they have in mid-cali and makes probably 80k salery and another I think 20k from his consulting at a mailing company.

I'm sure his boss, the one in charge of him and the others at his level should make like 150k at least.
There's a huge range depending on location and what kind of company you work for.
That job was in the middle of Indiana (lacking IT jobs) and was for a state funded university.

Here in Phoenix, I've seen people doing tech support for as low as $12/hour and inept contractors charging $95/hour for something I used to do for free to help people in college. It's all about your attitude, your skills, and/or how much you are willing to BS.
 

kb3edk

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
I have never met any IT guy that made over $50,000.

Well I used to make $60K as a systems analyst, but that was in downtown Philly where the taxes are ridiculous.

I took a $3,500 cut in base pay to work out in the suburbs and my take-home is identical.

I had a recruiter call me the other day asking if I wanted to do contract work at SAP for $30 an hour... but there would be no benefits or paid time off. Not sure that it would be worth it, despite the chance at getting my foot in the door at SAP.

 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: kb3edk
Originally posted by: DAGTA
I have never met any IT guy that made over $50,000.

Well I used to make $60K as a systems analyst, but that was in downtown Philly where the taxes are ridiculous.

I took a $3,500 cut in base pay to work out in the suburbs and my take-home is identical.

I had a recruiter call me the other day asking if I wanted to do contract work at SAP for $30 an hour... but there would be no benefits or paid time off. Not sure that it would be worth it, despite the chance at getting my foot in the door at SAP.

No. $30 is about $60,000 a year... but you have no benefits, no vacation, no sick time, and your taxes increase by 15.3% immediately when you become self-employed.
 

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Eh? I didn't think it was that low. IT as in what, help desk? My brother is a network admin for a plastic bottle manufacturing company with I think like 30+ plants (total guess going off fact they have like 7 in Cali and they used to be based in Austin until the move to Atlanta). He's in charge of the ones in southern california and I think the one they have in mid-cali and makes probably 80k salery and another I think 20k from his consulting at a mailing company.

I'm sure his boss, the one in charge of him and the others at his level should make like 150k at least.
There's a huge range depending on location and what kind of company you work for.
That job was in the middle of Indiana (lacking IT jobs) and was for a state funded university.

Here in Phoenix, I've seen people doing tech support for as low as $12/hour and inept contractors charging $95/hour for something I used to do for free to help people in college. It's all about your attitude, your skills, and/or how much you are willing to BS.

And now you have it all figured out.

;)

the thing is you can have two people sitting right next to each other doing the same job, but one makes twice what the other does.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: SampSon

To the rest of you: Why do you all find it so hard to believe that there are many people out there that make a very decent living? Just because you make under 50K a year doesn't mean everyone else does.

I don't make under $50k a year, I make a very decent living... And I'll repeat - there's no reason a company should be paying a guy $200k a year to do something that someone with equal skills would be willing to do for half that. And I guarantee you there is someone out there with skills equal to forcesho's who would be willing to do his job for half of what he makes. That's the only reason I had any doubt. Unless he's leaving out something significant, then his employer must either have no clue what they could be paying him or they don't care about pissing money down the drain.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: forcesho
ur getting massively raped..

i'm you +phones +turret (voip)

Im assuming you get some desktop support work too ?

I'm @ 95/hr.. you can at least make 30/hr with your skills

and you are full of sh!t.


NOBODY is getting paid $95/hr for IT. just not happening.

this is not the forum to make crap up like that. good percentage of posters work in IT.

Umm, yes they do. Many bill out for 150-200 an hour...40 hours per week.

SAP basis, net architect, security come to mind.


when he chimed in we were talking about basic tech skills. NOT jobs like those.

which is where all the disbelief comes in. I agree a specialist such as those can make 200k but not a low level tech job.

as i said Some positions will make it. just not a tech as OP said and forscoco said he did.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: forcesho
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/forcesho/1040-2003.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/forcesho/1040-2004.jpg

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/forcesho/w2-2003.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/forcesho/w2-2004.jpg

I work in greenwich ct, and yes a lot of people makes over 100k in nyc.
I'm not contracted, I do my 40 hours, and sometimes less.. lately I been bored at work and I leave by 4

i supply my w2 for 2003 & 2004 and the 1040s, i'm not the boss but he gets paid 500k a year

one more thing i left out, i also do security in the firm, i carry a taser and shot gun with my body armor at work... and i have a 30-06 sniper rifle in my trunk. I also have 5 nbc gas mask in case we get attack. :)

So you do more then a help desk type job that the OP was talking about.

What are allt he jobs you have? Help desk and security? In NYC the two i can believe its $200k (dont the cops make like $100k there?).

So while you do make $200k its not just for a basic IT job. its also for security (wich sounds bad if you need all that gear).

BTW why do you need all that gear? are they really that worried about you getting attacked?
 

labgeek

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Meh...computer tech eh? Easy. Call up all the clients that really like you and do work for them for a cheaper rate than the business charged. 100% profit for you. Then just do consulting yourself...be your own boss. You could easily charge probably like $40/hr for onsite work for yourself and make more than you were making at the other place.

And if you take enough of them, and they sue your a$$, I'm sure OdiN will help with your legal defense fund...
 

KillyKillall

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No offense..but I could take any version of Turbo Tax and print out a 1040 with anything I wanted on it right now and take pics of it and post it.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: KillyKillall
No offense..but I could take any version of Turbo Tax and print out a 1040 with anything I wanted on it right now and take pics of it and post it.

It's a little harder to do with a W2 form though.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: KillyKillall
No offense..but I could take any version of Turbo Tax and print out a 1040 with anything I wanted on it right now and take pics of it and post it.

oh i believe he makes $200k. Really hard to fake W2's unless he has access to the machines.

and the W2's look legit. shrug but i am not a expert on it heh.
 

daveymark

Lifer
Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: KillyKillall
No offense..but I could take any version of Turbo Tax and print out a 1040 with anything I wanted on it right now and take pics of it and post it.

It's a little harder to do with a W2 form though.

Not much harder. When I was younger and an idiot, I forged W2's to get approved for a car loan, as well as rent an apartment. Took me about 5 miuntes to do. I was approved for both the car and the apartment. I didn't go through with either, as my conscience got the best of me


EDIT: I might still have them around here, I'll check