Waiters are MUCH happier with our system. Here waiters make 20 to 40 an hour with tips, which is more than they would make in the European style system.
I know plenty of people who have done waiting, and it was very very good money.
Waiters are MUCH happier with our system. Here waiters make 20 to 40 an hour with tips, which is more than they would make in the European style system.
I know plenty of people who have done waiting, and it was very very good money.
Not really relevant, given in the Western U.S waiters make 8 to 12 an hour BEFORE tips and tipping is still expected.
kage69
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Actually IIRC the waiter turns to leave in disgust and says something about 'fuckin gangsters' and it's Chris that attacks him, throwing a rock or something which hits the guy just right and fractures his skull, dropping him instantly. They panic, and not wanting to run the risk of the guy identifying them later, Paulie puts a couple in him and they take the money.
Whatever.
I did my time in the hospitality industry, when I see someone working their ass off and getting crap from other customers, I like to leave that person a 200% tip and watch it make their night. There have been a few occasions that I left no tip, never without a clear reason. I don't believe in tipping assholes who resent doing their jobs while rudely wasting my time.
Rakewell
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Not exactly. Definitely depends on where you are:
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm
Federal minimum is $2.13 per hour.
rh71
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why does it suck for the business? They're not paying their workers even minimum wage to begin with.
And don't tell me they have to raise food prices if they have to pay workers, because they already charge twice the amount it usually is for a simple burger. And $15 for a chicken and some pasta? Get real for a second, restaurant owners are not the ones being shafted.
I'm glad most people, at least here, think tipping is a crap system.
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alkemyst
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You are pretty clueless to how food costs and other indirect costs have affected restaurants over the past few years.
I am pretty happy to get a 1/4 chicken, some veggies and a tea for under $15 with tip.
Gothgar
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No, I can make breaks for really busy places, or if the food is messed up. That is not what causes me to tip poorly
Capt Caveman
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rh71
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Obviously there are overhead and other costs - it's a business and they are trying to make a profit which I have no problem with, but if I'm supposed to cry for an owner for having to pay up to minimum wage occasionally, despite him charging me $15 for a chicken alfredo or $11 for a burger and fries, I'm just going to laugh in their face. You know how that feels.
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Could you elaborate on this? Usual price? Are comparing the burger from fast food to chain restaurant, local diner, or what?
I said Western U.S : California, Nevada, Alaska, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington. Should be 7 to 12 an hour.
rh71
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Usual price = cost for the same thing... Five Guys would charge $5 whereas TGIF charges $10 for a Jack Daniel's Burger. I think they're pretty comparable. I'm not asking for the prices to be the same, I'm just saying they're not getting any sympathy from me.
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alkemyst
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You have no clue...
Also you'd never laugh in anyone's face, they'd snap you in half like the twerp you are.
lokiju
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Last week me and some of the guys at work went to a Hibachi place for lunch and I tipped 15.5% for a lackluster service that was nothing compared to what you experience at the night time dining at the very same place.
One co-worker took note of how much (or little) I tipped and not in a condescending way pondered aloud as we walked out how it's odd that tipping has become so expected and even more so the very same place had a "suggest tip" breakdown on the bottom of the bill that showed 17% on up to 30% and what the total cost of the bill with the desired percent would equal in order to "help" make it easier to fill out I guess.
We both found it somewhat presumptive that the starting amount for suggestions was 17% and up.
IMO 15% is very fair for a lunch that consist of giving me my food and nothing more.
One co-worker took note of how much (or little) I tipped and not in a condescending way pondered aloud as we walked out how it's odd that tipping has become so expected and even more so the very same place had a "suggest tip" breakdown on the bottom of the bill that showed 17% on up to 30% and what the total cost of the bill with the desired percent would equal in order to "help" make it easier to fill out I guess.
We both found it somewhat presumptive that the starting amount for suggestions was 17% and up.
IMO 15% is very fair for a lunch that consist of giving me my food and nothing more.
rh71
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You're the king of internet tough guy. As if you needed reassurance. The mods keep you around for entertainment. You probably realize that too.
BoomerD
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That's not accurate. In many states, there is a "tipped employee" wage that is less than the minimum wage...BUT, the employee's tips are used to make up the difference between the allowable wage that the employer is required to pay and the actual minimum wage.
The FEDERAL minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13/hr...which the employer has to pay regardless of how many tips the worker gets, but several states have a much higher tipped employee wage...and some even require the business to pay the tipped worker the FULL state minimum wage.
Oddly enough, when traveling, I don't see much difference in price between the states that require the full minimum wage and those that allow the reduced minimum wage when eating in chain restaurants or even just local restaurants. When there IS a significant price difference, IMO, it's usually because of things other than the cost of employee wages...location, (taxes, property values, etc) city/county/state fees, and the usual tourist "surcharges." (you're on vacation...we're gonna rip you off every way we can")
About 30 years ago, we went to dinner at a restaurant in a small Colorado resort town. Apparently we didn't leave a large enough tip because the waitress chased us down and confronted us in the parking lot. IIRC, we had left $10 on a $75 dinner tab...being the "great people person" I've always been...I asked her to show me how much I had left. She held up the $10...and I said, "Oops, my mistake." I took the $10 back and handed her a $1 bill. I told her, "The service you provided was shit. Our food was served cold, our drinks were empty for as long as 15 minutes before you came back, you didn't stop by to check on things during the meal, and you were surly for the entire evening. I shouldn't tip a single fucking cent."
I though her head was going to explode...I got in my truck and left her steaming and yelling in the parking lot. (and went the next day to speak to her manager about the episode...she was fired and we were offered a meal on the house...we never went back to collect it)
alkemyst
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rh71
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alkemyst
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If you weren't trying to just be such a troll, you'd realize that at lunchtime the Friday's burger is pretty much the same cost as a Five Guys burger.
Next time you enter a five guys vs a TGIF's compare the square footage they are paying rent for.
If you are not trolling, you must be retarded.
Capt Caveman
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You don't understand why there might be a difference in pricing due to overhead costs?
Spungo
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I worked a few retail jobs and I mostly had good experiences. I worked at Circuit City.
This. Subway managed to pay me slightly more than minimum wage and they never demanded tip. Some shitty place run by idiots charges $20 for a meal then they claim there's not enough money to pay the workers unless customers tip? The business deserves to sink if it's that poorly managed.
rh71
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Just came back from Alberta. One of the first places we went to had "It is customary to tip 15% in Canada" on the bottom of the receipt.
If you charge it on a credit card, they hand you the machine and you punch in how much tip you want to give. The guy stood there and watched me to do it too...
I said it in a few posts above that already.
I must've been typing in invisible font. Christ. And that's another thing... half price lunch. In the same square footage.
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