I am getting circumcised tomorrow [110 DAY UPDATE!]

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: JoeyM
I haven't read this whole thread so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned. There are girls who won't do certain things with an uncircumcised penis that they will do with a cicumcised one. For me, that is a compelling reason for circumcision.

I believe that's a compelling reason for an adult to get circumcised, if he wants to. Its not a compelling reason to circumcise an infant.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: JoeyM
I haven't read this whole thread so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned. There are girls who won't do certain things with an uncircumcised penis that they will do with a cicumcised one. For me, that is a compelling reason for circumcision.

Also, I wonder if there is any nerve development or regrowth that occurs in infants that doesn't occur in adults? I was circumcised at birth and can't really imagine mine being any more sensitive (without being painful).

When you are circumcised, a great deal of nerves are removed.

And then you have the whole keratosis thing that also reduces sensitivity.

 

[JoeyM]

Its supposed to be tight. Foreskins typically don't retract until age 5 or even until puberty. If the foreskin doesn't retract by then, then there's several nonsurgical methods of correcting the problem.

And whatever you do, don't forcebly retract the baby's foreskin. That hurts the baby plus it can cause adhesions to form. IIRC, adhesions are a major contributor to paraphimosis later in life. The foreskin doesn't need to be cleaned under until it retracts on its own.

I believe this is not true and potentially harmful misinformation.

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: JoeyM
I haven't read this whole thread so I'm sorry if this has been mentioned. There are girls who won't do certain things with an uncircumcised penis that they will do with a cicumcised one. For me, that is a compelling reason for circumcision.

Also, I wonder if there is any nerve development or regrowth that occurs in infants that doesn't occur in adults? I was circumcised at birth and can't really imagine mine being any more sensitive (without being painful).

first time Ive heard that.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: JoeyM

Its supposed to be tight. Foreskins typically don't retract until age 5 or even until puberty. If the foreskin doesn't retract by then, then there's several nonsurgical methods of correcting the problem.

And whatever you do, don't forcebly retract the baby's foreskin. That hurts the baby plus it can cause adhesions to form. IIRC, adhesions are a major contributor to paraphimosis later in life. The foreskin doesn't need to be cleaned under until it retracts on its own.

I believe this is not true and potentially harmful misinformation.

So what do you believe is correct information?

From eMedicine.com::

Phimosis is defined as a condition in which the foreskin cannot be pulled back behind the head of the penis (ie, inability to retract the foreskin). Two types of phimosis exist: physiologic and pathologic.

Physiologic or congenital phimosis refers to a foreskin (prepuce) that is adherent to the glans at birth but disappears as the infant ages, usually by age 5 years.

I have a little boy, who has his foreskin. He's healthy as a horse, and doesn't have any trouble going to the bathroom. His foreskin is also nonretractable, since he's only 17 months old. His pediatrician doesn't think there's a problem, neither do we.

 

[Auryg]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: JoeyM

Its supposed to be tight. Foreskins typically don't retract until age 5 or even until puberty. If the foreskin doesn't retract by then, then there's several nonsurgical methods of correcting the problem.

And whatever you do, don't forcebly retract the baby's foreskin. That hurts the baby plus it can cause adhesions to form. IIRC, adhesions are a major contributor to paraphimosis later in life. The foreskin doesn't need to be cleaned under until it retracts on its own.

I believe this is not true and potentially harmful misinformation.

So what do you believe is correct information?

From eMedicine.com::

Phimosis is defined as a condition in which the foreskin cannot be pulled back behind the head of the penis (ie, inability to retract the foreskin). Two types of phimosis exist: physiologic and pathologic.

Physiologic or congenital phimosis refers to a foreskin (prepuce) that is adherent to the glans at birth but disappears as the infant ages, usually by age 5 years.

I have a little boy, who has his foreskin. He's healthy as a horse, and doesn't have any trouble going to the bathroom. His foreskin is also nonretractable, since he's only 17 months old. His pediatrician doesn't think there's a problem, neither do we.

When I was about 4 I had to be circumcised because my foreskin was attached. They had known it from birth that something would need to be done, but my parents didn't want it done when I was a baby because they were afraid the machine they use to do it would have cut off some of my..um..little baby shaft.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Auryg

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: JoeyM

Its supposed to be tight. Foreskins typically don't retract until age 5 or even until puberty. If the foreskin doesn't retract by then, then there's several nonsurgical methods of correcting the problem.

And whatever you do, don't forcebly retract the baby's foreskin. That hurts the baby plus it can cause adhesions to form. IIRC, adhesions are a major contributor to paraphimosis later in life. The foreskin doesn't need to be cleaned under until it retracts on its own.

I believe this is not true and potentially harmful misinformation.

So what do you believe is correct information?

From eMedicine.com::

Phimosis is defined as a condition in which the foreskin cannot be pulled back behind the head of the penis (ie, inability to retract the foreskin). Two types of phimosis exist: physiologic and pathologic.

Physiologic or congenital phimosis refers to a foreskin (prepuce) that is adherent to the glans at birth but disappears as the infant ages, usually by age 5 years.

I have a little boy, who has his foreskin. He's healthy as a horse, and doesn't have any trouble going to the bathroom. His foreskin is also nonretractable, since he's only 17 months old. His pediatrician doesn't think there's a problem, neither do we.

When I was about 4 I had to be circumcised because my foreskin was attached. They had known it from birth that something would need to be done, but my parents didn't want it done when I was a baby because they were afraid the machine they use to do it would have cut off some of my..um..little baby shaft.

Do you have something like hypospadias? That's the only remotely legitimate need I could see for you being circ'd that young.

But, chances are, they got bad medical advice and you paid the price. Nonretraction at age 4 is not a problem.

 

[ViviTheMage]

<--sporting a sweater vest stilll baby.

never gonna lose it.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
But, chances are, they got bad medical advice and you paid the price. Nonretraction at age 4 is not a problem.

This coming from someone with the spotty blue penis avatar. :|












I kid, I kid. 😉

 

[Vic]

I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

That's exactly right.

So basically, you agree with the "foreskin warriors", but the issue is pretty much moot since pain/sensation is relative.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

That's exactly right.

So basically, you agree with the "foreskin warriors", but the issue is pretty much moot since pain/sensation is relative.

I think the issue is pretty much moot period. Much ado about nothing. Of course an individual who undergoes circumsion as an adult is going to notice a difference. I'm not surprised by that at all. However, done prior to puberty, there would be no basis for comparison. And as such, any belief in a difference in sensation would be ENTIRELY psychological as a proven medical fact. Which is why you don't hear hardly any of the guys who were cut as infants complaining. There isn't anything to complain about (except perhaps that they need to use more lube than uncut guys do).

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

That's exactly right.

So basically, you agree with the "foreskin warriors", but the issue is pretty much moot since pain/sensation is relative.

I think the issue is pretty much moot period. Much ado about nothing. Of course an individual who undergoes circumsion as an adult is going to notice a difference. I'm not surprised by that at all. However, done prior to puberty, there would be no basis for comparison. And as such, any perceived difference would be ENTIRELY psychological as a proven medical fact. Which is why you don't hear the guys who were cut as infants complaining. There isn't anything to complain about (except perhaps that they need to use more lube than uncut guys do).

I agree.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

That's exactly right.

So basically, you agree with the "foreskin warriors", but the issue is pretty much moot since pain/sensation is relative.

I think the issue is pretty much moot period. Much ado about nothing. Of course an individual who undergoes circumsion as an adult is going to notice a difference. I'm not surprised by that at all. However, done prior to puberty, there would be no basis for comparison. And as such, any belief in a difference in sensation would be ENTIRELY psychological as a proven medical fact. Which is why you don't hear hardly any of the guys who were cut as infants complaining. There isn't anything to complain about (except perhaps that they need to use more lube than uncut guys do).

Do you not understand that there are nerve endings in the foreskin that are no longer there? It's not a issue of growing used to it. It's the fact the the nerve endings are no longer there.

They would be complaining if they knew what they were missing.

 

[Udel]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

That's exactly right.

So basically, you agree with the "foreskin warriors", but the issue is pretty much moot since pain/sensation is relative.

I think the issue is pretty much moot period. Much ado about nothing. Of course an individual who undergoes circumsion as an adult is going to notice a difference. I'm not surprised by that at all. However, done prior to puberty, there would be no basis for comparison. And as such, any belief in a difference in sensation would be ENTIRELY psychological as a proven medical fact. Which is why you don't hear hardly any of the guys who were cut as infants complaining. There isn't anything to complain about (except perhaps that they need to use more lube than uncut guys do).

Do you not understand that there are nerve endings in the foreskin that are no longer there? It's not a issue of growing used to it. It's the fact the the nerve endings are no longer there.

They would be complaining if they knew what they were missing.

You know what, cry till your blue in the face about your missing nerve endings. Trust me, I'm not "missing" anything.

I also don't want my son to worry about when he foreskin will retract when he is a teen, should he have a problem with it. An already emotionally differcult period doesn't need an embarassing issue like this creeping up. That and it looks better. More girls tend to enjoy the look and if gives you more confidence. You can say argue about that all you want, but my experiance atleast, tells me I'm right about this.

Most people go with an "agree to disagree" position on this. But then there are you nuts with the "OMG nerve endings, infant butchering OMG". Get over yourselves.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

That's exactly right.

So basically, you agree with the "foreskin warriors", but the issue is pretty much moot since pain/sensation is relative.

I think the issue is pretty much moot period. Much ado about nothing. Of course an individual who undergoes circumsion as an adult is going to notice a difference. I'm not surprised by that at all. However, done prior to puberty, there would be no basis for comparison. And as such, any belief in a difference in sensation would be ENTIRELY psychological as a proven medical fact. Which is why you don't hear hardly any of the guys who were cut as infants complaining. There isn't anything to complain about (except perhaps that they need to use more lube than uncut guys do).

Do you not understand that there are nerve endings in the foreskin that are no longer there? It's not a issue of growing used to it. It's the fact the the nerve endings are no longer there.

They would be complaining if they knew what they were missing.

You're still making no sense.

If a guy is born with 5 fingers, but gets his pinky cut off in a tractor accident....does that mean a sandwich he eats with that hand is going to taste worse. Yes, his freaking finger is missing.....he lacks something he once had, that doesn't mean his hand doesn't perform the same functions.

As far as I'm hearing you're missing sensitivity you once had. Nobody ever said guys without foreskin have as much sensitivity.....but there are plenty of guys without foreskin who can't last more than a minute. Maybe you're F'd. It makes sense that you'd develop a dependency on that level of sensitivity. But your statement that there is less sensitivity isn't resolving anything related to whether circumcision is good or bad or negligible for newborns.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Vic
I see the Foreskin Warriors have decided to throw 150 years of medical and scientific research into pain and sensation out the window...

Clever name. Now, what exactly are you trying to say?

The obvious. That sensation is relative. Which is a proven medical and scientific fact. Suppose you break your arm and go to the emergency room. While diagnosing your pain, does the doctor say, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being your testicles crushed in a vice, how much pain are you in?" NO. He says, "On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no pain and 10 being the worst pain YOU have ever felt... " The doctor asks the question that way because pain/sensation is entirely relative to the individual and largely psychological. You cannot place it on an absolute scale.

*sigh* I'm sure I waste my time here though. Freud would have had a field day on you...

That's exactly right.

So basically, you agree with the "foreskin warriors", but the issue is pretty much moot since pain/sensation is relative.

I think the issue is pretty much moot period. Much ado about nothing. Of course an individual who undergoes circumsion as an adult is going to notice a difference. I'm not surprised by that at all. However, done prior to puberty, there would be no basis for comparison. And as such, any belief in a difference in sensation would be ENTIRELY psychological as a proven medical fact. Which is why you don't hear hardly any of the guys who were cut as infants complaining. There isn't anything to complain about (except perhaps that they need to use more lube than uncut guys do).

You're right and this is why I don't argue from the perspective of "sensation" or anything quite that subjective.

I prefer to argue from the perspective of human rights, which I'm quite sure you will belittle as well.

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Yep, tomorrow is the day. Hopefully, I will get something good enough that I won't remember what's going on for a few days. Frankly, this is not something that I want to experience or remember.

Update!
The burning question: How much sensation did you lose?
The burning answer: A WHOLE FREAKING LOT.

If I had known I was going to lose as much sensitivity as I did, I would not have gotten circumsized until it was a last resort. The old saying about the palm of your hand vs. the back is an understatement- the nerve endings in my foreskin gave me a completely different dimension of sensation, but now it's gone. Crap.

So there it is, people, proof from a cognizant person who knows the before and after: Circumcision DEFINATELY reduces the amount of sensation in your penis by an large amount- maybe even half. It's not a percentage, nor is it accurate to say half- it's a whole different set of sensations that complement and add to sexual pleasure. I'm sorry for all you guys who never got to know that sensation- it's FAR superior to what I have now.

Penis, I'm sorry.

I'll never forget the time we had together with our foreskin. 🙁
RIP Foreskin

The conclusion: If you hate your child, have him circumcised.

i am sorry for you but people just wont listen 🙁

Weren't you the one with some medical condition ? 🙁

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: flexy

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Yep, tomorrow is the day. Hopefully, I will get something good enough that I won't remember what's going on for a few days. Frankly, this is not something that I want to experience or remember.

Update!
The burning question: How much sensation did you lose?
The burning answer: A WHOLE FREAKING LOT.

If I had known I was going to lose as much sensitivity as I did, I would not have gotten circumsized until it was a last resort. The old saying about the palm of your hand vs. the back is an understatement- the nerve endings in my foreskin gave me a completely different dimension of sensation, but now it's gone. Crap.

So there it is, people, proof from a cognizant person who knows the before and after: Circumcision DEFINATELY reduces the amount of sensation in your penis by an large amount- maybe even half. It's not a percentage, nor is it accurate to say half- it's a whole different set of sensations that complement and add to sexual pleasure. I'm sorry for all you guys who never got to know that sensation- it's FAR superior to what I have now.

Penis, I'm sorry.

I'll never forget the time we had together with our foreskin. 🙁
RIP Foreskin

The conclusion: If you hate your child, have him circumcised.

i am sorry for you but people just wont listen 🙁

Weren't you the one with some medical condition ? 🙁

again, so you think EVERY child by default should have their tonsils removed because SOME people develop infections due to the tonsils later in life?

:roll:

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
My question to you TitanDaddy is the following: "Should I take what I have read of your experience as THE reason not to have my future children clipped and let them make the decision on their own?" In very passing discussion, my gf mentioned that she'd probably want to get any future children clipped and I didn't want to start a fight so I didn't say anything, but if it's as bad as you say it is, I'll dig my heels in when the time comes.

ace, it ALWAYS was as bad as the OP says.

CC was "invented" mainly as a nice way to keep boys from touching themselves (by loss of sensation) - and THATS what he sees now with hiw own **** ehrm.. eyes.

And...who the *** wants be so stupid and let a woman tell him to put a knife to his **** and lose about 50% of sensitivity ? What hright has ANY woman to decide this, be it her HB, BF and worse her kids ? Like a WOMAN knows about loss of sensativity in a penis ? Gimme a break.
WAKE UP GUYS and see the TRUTH.

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Well, I learned something new today. I didn't know it gave you more sensation to have the foreskin. Guess I'll never know what I've been missing since I'm cut, but it would have been nice to know. Oh well, it still feels pretty damn good anyway, hard to imagine sex feeling any better.

thats why people/men should fight against this stupidity 🙂
And all the stupid arguments GIVEN why it is supposed to be "benefitial"..people who dont KNOW (people who have been CC at birth, like doctors or WOMAN should not have saying/decision there) based just on urban myths and BS and "esthetic preferences [depending where you live etc.]"....come on 😉

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Read your update, and I'm afraid I can't accept the testimony of a virgin. Mad props to you for waiting it out, but unless you could compare the sensations during sex I'm not interested.

keep denying....doesn't make it truer 😉 Even as a virgin i THINK he should be able to tell about sensitivity. its a SIMPLE thing.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: flexy

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Yep, tomorrow is the day. Hopefully, I will get something good enough that I won't remember what's going on for a few days. Frankly, this is not something that I want to experience or remember.

Update!
The burning question: How much sensation did you lose?
The burning answer: A WHOLE FREAKING LOT.

If I had known I was going to lose as much sensitivity as I did, I would not have gotten circumsized until it was a last resort. The old saying about the palm of your hand vs. the back is an understatement- the nerve endings in my foreskin gave me a completely different dimension of sensation, but now it's gone. Crap.

So there it is, people, proof from a cognizant person who knows the before and after: Circumcision DEFINATELY reduces the amount of sensation in your penis by an large amount- maybe even half. It's not a percentage, nor is it accurate to say half- it's a whole different set of sensations that complement and add to sexual pleasure. I'm sorry for all you guys who never got to know that sensation- it's FAR superior to what I have now.

Penis, I'm sorry.

I'll never forget the time we had together with our foreskin. 🙁
RIP Foreskin

The conclusion: If you hate your child, have him circumcised.

i am sorry for you but people just wont listen 🙁

Weren't you the one with some medical condition ? 🙁

again, so you think EVERY child by default should have their tonsils removed because SOME people develop infections due to the tonsils later in life?

:roll:

I hope not, cause I am 19 have my foreskin, have my tonsils, have my wisdom teeth.