I am getting circumcised tomorrow [110 DAY UPDATE!]

[BullsOnParade]

When did Mosh turn into such a B!TC#.

Titan, thanks so much for posting. Very informative. I wonder though why no one has drawn a parallel to female circumcision aka female genital mutilation. Some cultures feel that it too wards of dirtiness.
We certainly find that to be an extremely barbarous act and really some tenuous rationalization has kept us from feeling the same way about male gential mutilation. Somehow despite having evolved
over millions of years to have a foreskin the medical profession managed to rationalize some existing ritualistic nonsense. They've since retracted it but still claim some benefit from the procedure. Yeah there is
but damn you've got to be nuts to consider it.

I say, since hands are the greatest avenue to disese and infection, we lop them off at birth too. It's not as if they have some predefined purpose either right.

 

[Slap]

Wow, the conformity is strong with this one. And saying that there is no medical reason isn't discouragement, its taking a neutral position. He still profits handsomely from cutting baby penis. Its one reason that my family doesn't go to OBs... homebirths are far safer for little American boys.

Of couse he stayed neutral. He should in no way try to persuade soon to be parents either way. I am also a little more persuaded since my wife is a sonographer and my best friend is a surgeon. They both tell me horror stories of uncut ones they have seen infected. I know it is very rare. My friend that is a surgeon actually took his two sons home and then later to a urologist to get them cut.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: Slap

Wow, the conformity is strong with this one. And saying that there is no medical reason isn't discouragement, its taking a neutral position. He still profits handsomely from cutting baby penis. Its one reason that my family doesn't go to OBs... homebirths are far safer for little American boys.

Of couse he stayed neutral. He should in no way try to persuade soon to be parents either way. I am also a little more persuaded since my wife is a sonographer and my best friend is a surgeon. They both tell me horror stories of uncut ones they have seen infected. I know it is very rare. My friend that is a surgeon actually took his two sons home and then later to a urologist to get them cut.

I may not have an MD but logic seems to suggest that cutting off part of the body and leaving a fresh wound in a place that is going to be subjected to feces and urine several times a day by a human too young to clean himself isn't exactly a way to reduce risk of infection.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Slap

Wow, the conformity is strong with this one. And saying that there is no medical reason isn't discouragement, its taking a neutral position. He still profits handsomely from cutting baby penis. Its one reason that my family doesn't go to OBs... homebirths are far safer for little American boys.

Of couse he stayed neutral. He should in no way try to persuade soon to be parents either way. I am also a little more persuaded since my wife is a sonographer and my best friend is a surgeon. They both tell me horror stories of uncut ones they have seen infected. I know it is very rare. My friend that is a surgeon actually took his two sons home and then later to a urologist to get them cut.

Why not? Doctors are supposed to offer their medical opinion. Why is circumcision any different? Because you like it? Because its a creepy cultural norm in your community and this country? Because you're a conformist? If you decided you wanted your son to have ear tubes, when they clearly weren't indicated, would your doctor stay neutral on that? No, he'd offer his medical opinion that they weren't needed and refuse to do it.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: Slap

Wow, the conformity is strong with this one. And saying that there is no medical reason isn't discouragement, its taking a neutral position. He still profits handsomely from cutting baby penis. Its one reason that my family doesn't go to OBs... homebirths are far safer for little American boys.

Of couse he stayed neutral. He should in no way try to persuade soon to be parents either way. I am also a little more persuaded since my wife is a sonographer and my best friend is a surgeon. They both tell me horror stories of uncut ones they have seen infected. I know it is very rare. My friend that is a surgeon actually took his two sons home and then later to a urologist to get them cut.

I may not have an MD but logic seems to suggest that cutting off part of the body and leaving a fresh wound in a place that is going to be subjected to feces and urine several times a day by a human too young to clean himself isn't exactly a way to reduce risk of infection.

Don't forget stuff like MRSA and Staph that are running around in the hospital. But some people are willing to risk major penile infections just to conform.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: Slap
I have read most of this thread and other articles on circumcision, and we are still getting our son circumcised. If she doesn't go into labor by May 30th, then she will be induced that day. I guess he will be circumcised the next day. I know it isn't the popular thing to do as far as this thread goes, but it is the decision we have made. The OB group she uses, which is the largest in the area, says they still circumcise about 95% of all males. Her Dr said that although the rate is lowering overall, this area has basically stayed the same. I guess it is a big cultural thing here in the south.

If you circumsize, I recommend strongly that you do it on the eighth day. This is because it is the only day in a male's life when his Vitamin K and prothrombin levels are produced in excess. In normal terms, this means that he will heal faster on that day than any other day in his life.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I'll chime in... why not?

I consider myself to be rather principled when it comes to asserting individual rights and liberties, and in principle I think unconsentually circumcising infants is a violation of the infants' rights. Having said that however, I do not, and have never resented my parents for having me circumcised in my infancy. I quite like being circumcised, despite my ignorance of the alternative.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Garth
I'll chime in... why not?

I consider myself to be rather principled when it comes to asserting individual rights and liberties, and in principle I think unconsentually circumcising infants is a violation of the infants' rights. Having said that however, I do not, and have never resented my parents for having me circumcised in my infancy. I quite like being circumcised, despite my ignorance of the alternative.

I do resent my parents doing that to me... they should have known better being doctors and all. I wonder if my mom looked down at me and thought, "Oh, little EatSpam would definately want part of his penis cut off for no reason at all!!"

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Damn, NOOOO!!!!:|:thumbsdown:
Circumcision drastically reduces the level of sensation and pleasure that you feel.
You can never get it back- I know.
I got cut at 19.
Burning sensation and pure pain trying to pee. But that's just pain, and you can overcome pain.

But the loss of sensation, ughh.
Pre-circumcised: SUPER SENSITIVE.:thumbsup::laugh::sun::beer::music::wine:
Post-circumcision: :frown:

Maybe this has something to do with having the operation done later in life. When you hit puberty and had the procedure done as an infant, the nerves grow into the remaining area. When you have it done later, the nerve endings are removed.

Ya think?

 

[magomago]

I definitely think that if you get circumscised when you are older you will have problems...part of that is because your brain has most likely made synapses and your foreskin is part of that network. But if you snip it off when you are a child, or even better...at birth, your brain (all this is speculation btw..but I've seen it work in other things...as always if you lose a function and need your brain to make it up some way the younger you are the better it works...its amazing how people literally chop off a porition of a baby's lungs to remove a cyst...but EVERYTHING heals like nothing wrong ever happened; there is no mark on their chest and the body does a super job...until you get older) will rewire elsewhere so you don't lose that sensation. If you are an adult though...rewiring your brain synapses is EXTREMELY difficult because they aren't as "plastic" and "formable" as they used to be.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Damn, NOOOO!!!!:|:thumbsdown:
Circumcision drastically reduces the level of sensation and pleasure that you feel.
You can never get it back- I know.
I got cut at 19.
Burning sensation and pure pain trying to pee. But that's just pain, and you can overcome pain.

But the loss of sensation, ughh.
Pre-circumcised: SUPER SENSITIVE.:thumbsup::laugh::sun::beer::music::wine:
Post-circumcision: :frown:

Maybe this has something to do with having the operation done later in life. When you hit puberty and had the procedure done as an infant, the nerves grow into the remaining area. When you have it done later, the nerve endings are removed.

Ya think?

Do women that are circumsized as infants have their nerves grow into the remaining area and retain the same level of sensitivity?

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I still don't understand how some folks thinks guys with a foreskin are somehow unconcerned with their hygiene?

Because us uncut guys only get to shower once a month; it's a federal law. And we can't use soap, either.

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
people follow norms when it makes sense. Circumcision does not make sense!

No, people ALWAYS follow norms, even if they're completely irrational. Why? Because people are stupid.

Following the crowd "just because" is only acceptible if there are severe penalties for breaking the norm...which is not usually the case.

 

[BoldAsLove]

I think its completely different between doing it at birth and when you are in your 20s.
The sensation for me is great and i am circumcised. I think it is just the fact that you had it done so late and it mightve ruines some of your enrve endings which had yet to fully grow if you would have got it done when you were a few days old.

 

[Turkish]

Hilarity in this thread is hilarious.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: Turkish
Hilarity in this thread is hilarious.

Paging the Department of Redumdancy Department,
Paging the Department of Redumdancy Department...

 

[Kyle]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Damn, NOOOO!!!!:|:thumbsdown:
Circumcision drastically reduces the level of sensation and pleasure that you feel.
You can never get it back- I know.
I got cut at 19.
Burning sensation and pure pain trying to pee. But that's just pain, and you can overcome pain.

But the loss of sensation, ughh.
Pre-circumcised: SUPER SENSITIVE.:thumbsup::laugh::sun::beer::music::wine:
Post-circumcision: :frown:

Maybe this has something to do with having the operation done later in life. When you hit puberty and had the procedure done as an infant, the nerves grow into the remaining area. When you have it done later, the nerve endings are removed.

Ya think?

I doubt it- uncircumsised- if you pull the foreskin back, the friction of the head against your underwear is almost painful it's so sensitive- that doesnt happen with circumsised guys.

 

[Kyle]

dp

 

[Powermoloch]

wha? I kinda understand the loss of sensitivity.....right after circumcision. I got mines when I was age 11....boy it was painful.