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I am Christian and I support same-sex and gay marriages

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: apoppin
Well the bible - as we have it now - condemms homosexuality. 😉

Who really cares since marriage is not (only) a 'religious' union. 😛

it's POLITICS, baby.

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And since the bible condones things like having multiple wives, killing people for simple offenses, etc does that mean all those things should be legal?

I love how people quote the bible when it supports their argument and then condemn it as outdated and wrong when it's against their argument.
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Very true, depending on how much you know about the Bible. When Jesus came, he fulfilled the prophecies of the old testament and created a new testament, which is much more forgiving and less legalistic than the old testament. The new testament is what we are called to live our lives by, wheresas the old testament is more of a history book with guidelines now. The new testament makes it clear that multiple wives, murder, and other things that were 'situationally ok' in the old testament are NOT ok.

-DAGTA
 
Originally posted by: Konigin
I am a Christian and I do NOT support same-sex or gay marriages.
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How about marriage between non belivers? Does the bible not say that that is as sinful? Did God not use Ezra so that believers and non believers would be divorced?

Or is that not as important as Leviticus? IF you think Leviticus is important, stay the heck away from any woman who has her period.

Face it, most of Leviticus is just rediculous.
 
I'm a Christian and a confirmed Catholic (although not practicing) and I'm idecisive either way. I guess you need to look at the big picture and realize that the main message from Jesus was love. If you are a Christian then you belive that everyone will be judged when they die (alone) for their sins. Now, if homosexuality is a sin then that individual will have to atone for that. Pretty much, what I'm saying is that I have way to many problems in my own life to really worry if two men down the street are in love with each other. If they are in love and cause no harm then I really think there are bigger things to worry about. Worry about yourself, and your loved ones, and respect everyone else but leave it to God to judge a sinner.
 
I support it. Don't see no reason why they can not marry.

Koing
 
Originally posted by: glen


However, I don't find it condemed by Christ anywhere. It either isn't a sin or is so low on his list of priorities, that he never mentions it.
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There is alot of things that christ taught that aren't mentioned in the bible, look at John 21:25 for a better explanation, don't think that because it is not in the bible Jesus never mentioned it. For all we know Jesus could of kept a personal journal that has been lost, since their are only 4 gospels and sometimes they don't agree with each other we have to take them as they are, testimonies from devout people that lived and learned with Christ.

That said, I have a gay sister that I love very much, one of my brother's won't acknowledge her existence becasue her lifestyle doesn't jive with born again belief, I find that sad as I can't imagine my life without my sister. But my religion doesn't support gay marriage and in that sense either do I, but that doesn't mean that I can't have gay friends or love my gay sister, she has made her choice and nothing I can do is going to change that. We're each allowed to make our own choices, it seems lots of people get angry with god because he is so set on this free agency thing that he lets bad things happen to good people and he lets the world do whatever it pleases, all because he promised us that we could make our own decisions and then he loves us so much that he won't break his promise.
 
sure, let them do all they want... but does this translate into more acceptance and appearance of homosexuality on media and society in general? if thats the case then i am STRONGLY AGAINST it.

EDIT : i am NOT a christian.. but i would get disgusted if i would have to put up with seeing fruity shows and commercials on TV on regular basis
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
As long as I don't have to watch them consemate their marriage I could care less!
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Great read going on here but Red shouldn't care less.

WAR Romans 1
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Konigin
I am a Christian and I do NOT support same-sex or gay marriages.
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How about marriage between non belivers? Does the bible not say that that is as sinful? Did God not use Ezra so that believers and non believers would be divorced?

Or is that not as important as Leviticus? IF you think Leviticus is important, stay the heck away from any woman who has her period.

Face it, most of Leviticus is just rediculous.
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I didn't say anything about non belivers, that was NOT the argument here. I also didn't say anything about Leviticus, but since you mentioned it you must know the verse.
 
Anybody who claims to be a Christian and supports sodomite marriages has not read their Bible. It is condemned in both the Old and New Testaments.
 
i'm christian and i support civil unions between homosexual individuals.

i believe any true christian that truely believes that marriage is a sacrament that must be sanctioned by God would see, that what the state does has NOTHING to do with what God does.
 
mar·riage

The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

If we are going to change the definition of marriage, why not polygamy or multiple husbands/wives?
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
mar·riage

The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

If we are going to change the definition of marriage, why not polygamy or multiple husbands/wives?
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why not?? the rate of divorce as we know it in the country, polygamy is already legal. :roll:

you think somehow that marrying multiple partners over a period of time vs simutaneously makes it ok?? don't tell the kids that. divocing parents can be just about as bad/worse for kids as any other scenario i can imagine including gay parents.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
mar·riage

The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

If we are going to change the definition of marriage, why not polygamy or multiple husbands/wives?
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NO change . . . You've quoted ONLY the PRImary definition . . . read on: 😛
d. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.
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:roll:
 
As long as the same sex marriages aren't carried out by Christian leaders as a Christian marriage (any Christian doctrine I've ever heard of wouldn't allow it anyway), and is simply done as a state marriage (Justice of the Peace type) I have no problem with it. I don't condone it, but neither do I condemn same sex marriages or relationships, it's not my place to judge.
 
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
As long as the same sex marriages aren't carried out by Christian leaders as a Christian marriage (any Christian doctrine I've ever heard of wouldn't allow it anyway), and is simply done as a state marriage (Justice of the Peace type) I have no problem with it. I don't condone it, but neither do I condemn same sex marriages or relationships, it's not my place to judge.
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if a sect or a denomination decides to condone gay marriages, does it then make it your place to judge??
 
that was a nice read. some of the points are well taken.

i always thought it was weird how couples go to city hall to get marriage licenses, regardless of their religion. my parents were both atheists when they were married in a baptist church. does that mean i'm a bastard child?

i'm starting to lean towards differentiating between religious and legal/civil marriages--separating church and state. those who believe in God can be married under God. those who don't simply aren't. both groups get the same rights. gays can get married, but not under God. then again, you have your unitarian ministers already performing the ceremonies... sure it requires redefining the concept of marriage, but who's to say that the current definition is right or set in stone? people used to think that the world was flat.
 
Ok so gay marriage is wrong under Christianity. Since when do everybody have to go by the rules of Christianity? Why do Christians get the priviledge of defining what a proper marriage is? Yes, the mainstream definition of a marriage is between a man and a woman. So what, it used to be that the mainstream definition of sex is also defined by an activity between man and a woman, yet now sex just means sex, regardless the gender of the partners, clearly definitions of marriage will also evolve.

we are also "under God" in the pledge of allegiance, yet there is a clear seperation between church and state. Just because the mainstream Americans happen to be Christians, and have progressed things to their standards under such values, doesn't mean everybody else have to go by their rules.

Why should the government be invloved in this? If the only reason that people doesnt like gay marriages is religion, why should the government be in favor of some religion. Where the hell is seperation of church and state?

If you don't like it, don't do it yourself, but don't try to prevent other people doing it, its none of your damn business.
 
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Let's put religion aside for now.

We wouldn't be in this problem if it weren't for all the incentives for marriage. Healthcare, property, taxes, wills, etc. Also wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the entertainment industry bastardizing marriage as a fun game.

They want marriage because of Money and Image.

True marriage is about providing a stable environment for kids.

Bringing religion back into this, marriage is also about a committment between the spouses.

So for both reasons that Marriage exists, it is voided for homosexuals. Homosexuals cannot naturally have kids, and homosexuality goes against relgious values.

Some religous denominations are started to bend the rules for popularity gain - and adoption/insemination is a choice, but then again I think it's debatable whether a homosexual couple can foster a stable environment.
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quite a few hetero couples can hardly foster a stable environment.
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I agree.
 
Originally posted by: Konigin
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Konigin
I am a Christian and I do NOT support same-sex or gay marriages.
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How about marriage between non belivers? Does the bible not say that that is as sinful? Did God not use Ezra so that believers and non believers would be divorced?

Or is that not as important as Leviticus? IF you think Leviticus is important, stay the heck away from any woman who has her period.

Face it, most of Leviticus is just rediculous.
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I didn't say anything about non belivers, that was NOT the argument here. I also didn't say anything about Leviticus, but since you mentioned it you must know the verse.
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Yes i know the verse, i was born and raised a protestant christian, my grandparents are semitic Jews.

So how do YOU choose which parts of Leviticus you want to be followed and why do you believe that only those parts should be followed, and most of all, why should other people follow those parts when you do not follow the rest of them? (and oh please don't tell me you do follow them, it is impossible)
 
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