I am a bit angry at nvidia!

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: dderidex
Just a reminder...

nVDVD != nVidia DVD Decoder.

nVDVD was a standalone DVD playing program from a few years back. It got up to version 2.55, and worked pretty well. Not necessarily better or worse than anything else, but it did come with most nVidia graphics cards of the GeForce4 through GeForce FX generations.

nVidia DVD Decoder is just a CODEC - you can't watch DVDs with it, and nVDVD doesn't work with it anyway (if you have both installed, and are watching the DVD on the nVDVD program, you are using the older CODECs that are built into that instead of the newer DVD Decoder).

I honestly don't know what all programs DO work with the new DVD Decoder (that is, btw, the thing you are talking about having to buy - or downloading a 30 day trial of), but I do know that:
[*]nVDVD does *NOT*, it still uses its built-in CODEC
[*]Windows Media Player 10 *does* - and it looks GOOD! (WMP9...I don't think does)
[*]ZoomPlayer Pro does, as well - that's what Anandtech used for testing with it when they gave the decoder CODEC such a glowing review. (Note that the review is given in context of the hardware-acceleration the GeForce6 cards can do with this decoder...that is completely irrelevant to anything but performance, though - the decoder will work on ANY DX9 card, including ATI cards)

so the latest version of the nvidia dvd player doesn't include the latest nvidia mpeg2 codecs?

I have been unable to get the nvidia codecs working on my machine. I'm using a radeon card, but supposedly the codecs are perfectly compatible with ATI radeon cards. But for whatever reason, it won't work. I'm using cyberlink and sonic dvd codecs instead.

edit: also, I was under the impression the ati radeon cards have always had hardware-assisted de-interlacing, so I'm not sure why the purevideo feature on the nvida cards is considered such a big deal

 

[IBuyUFO]

newbies are so funny. You should be mad at your parents for bringing you to this world.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Chrono
OMFG RUN FOR THE HILLS!!! GWARBOT IS A BIT ANGRY!!!1111

LOL, gwarbot sounds like one of those monsters that stomps around real slow and crazy yelling gwwwwwaaaarrrrrrrbooooottttttt

 

[Gibson486]

ATI's decoder is better anyways.

 

[dderidex]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
ATI's decoder is better anyways.

Actually, if you checked the link I provided above, you'd see that in objective tests, Anandtech proved otherwise. nVDVD is the best DVD decoder on the market right now.

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dderidex
Just a reminder...

nVDVD != nVidia DVD Decoder.

nVDVD was a standalone DVD playing program from a few years back. It got up to version 2.55, and worked pretty well. Not necessarily better or worse than anything else, but it did come with most nVidia graphics cards of the GeForce4 through GeForce FX generations.

nVidia DVD Decoder is just a CODEC - you can't watch DVDs with it, and nVDVD doesn't work with it anyway (if you have both installed, and are watching the DVD on the nVDVD program, you are using the older CODECs that are built into that instead of the newer DVD Decoder).

I honestly don't know what all programs DO work with the new DVD Decoder (that is, btw, the thing you are talking about having to buy - or downloading a 30 day trial of), but I do know that:
[*]nVDVD does *NOT*, it still uses its built-in CODEC
[*]Windows Media Player 10 *does* - and it looks GOOD! (WMP9...I don't think does)
[*]ZoomPlayer Pro does, as well - that's what Anandtech used for testing with it when they gave the decoder CODEC such a glowing review. (Note that the review is given in context of the hardware-acceleration the GeForce6 cards can do with this decoder...that is completely irrelevant to anything but performance, though - the decoder will work on ANY DX9 card, including ATI cards)

so the latest version of the nvidia dvd player doesn't include the latest nvidia mpeg2 codecs?

I have been unable to get the nvidia codecs working on my machine. I'm using a radeon card, but supposedly the codecs are perfectly compatible with ATI radeon cards. But for whatever reason, it won't work. I'm using cyberlink and sonic dvd codecs instead.

edit: also, I was under the impression the ati radeon cards have always had hardware-assisted de-interlacing, so I'm not sure why the purevideo feature on the nvida cards is considered such a big deal

AFAIK, you need a bunch of things set for it to work.
[*]Have to have nVDVD uninstalled when you install the DVD decoder. You CAN install it later if you want (I wouldn't, it won't work with the DVD decoder, and no, it does not include the newest CODEC)
[*]Windows Media Player 10 must be installed, as well as the WMV9 CODECs
[*]Probably a good idea to uninstall any other DVD decoders (ATI's, Powerlink's, etc) unless you are using a player (like VLC) that lets you select which DVD decoder you want to use.

Do read the Anandtech article - you'll see there is more to the GeForce6-series cards than just de-interlacing (and it's a better algorithm they use, anyway).