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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: ICRS
Most herpes meningitis is caused by genital and oral herpes simplex. You sure they said herpes Zoster.
Lots of people die each year from Herepes Simplex Meningitis and Encephalitis.
While HSV-1 is a common Herpes link for Meningitis, Zoster is kind of just as common. What ends up happening is the body gets shingles, but instead of presenting shingles on the skin, it is activated in the spinal column, which in that case usually ends up resulting in meningitis or encephalitis.
Wiki'd how Zoster works, but I knew it was the link between chicken pox and shingles. didn't know you could get shingles without having the characteristic rash.
Oh yes! If you are prone to stress induced shingles, it is very common to get them with little to no rash. In fact, not long ago I had a case on my head with no rash caused by overtraining in the gym.
I have had 3 bouts of shingles since I contracted Chicken Pox at the age of 30 (that was exciting). All from extreme overtraining when combining intense lifting routines with intense cardio and cutting. Not healthy, I know, and I learned my lesson... or so I thought. Only my first bout came with a remarkable rash.
You've had THREE recurrences? That's extremely unusual, have you had any other unusual diseases?
It's rare, but not THAT rare. Read the others in the last few posts who have had, or know people, with recurring shingles.
No other unusual diseases here. My body just has trouble with the Herpes Zoster virus. Probably because I caught Chicken Pox at such a late age (33ish) and my body didn't have years to get used to it. My immune system didn't mature while having to deal with the virus like most people's did. As with all Herpes viruses, outbreaks diminish after time.
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: ICRS
Most herpes meningitis is caused by genital and oral herpes simplex. You sure they said herpes Zoster.
Lots of people die each year from Herepes Simplex Meningitis and Encephalitis.
While HSV-1 is a common Herpes link for Meningitis, Zoster is kind of just as common. What ends up happening is the body gets shingles, but instead of presenting shingles on the skin, it is activated in the spinal column, which in that case usually ends up resulting in meningitis or encephalitis.
Wiki'd how Zoster works, but I knew it was the link between chicken pox and shingles. didn't know you could get shingles without having the characteristic rash.
Oh yes! If you are prone to stress induced shingles, it is very common to get them with little to no rash. In fact, not long ago I had a case on my head with no rash caused by overtraining in the gym.
I have had 3 bouts of shingles since I contracted Chicken Pox at the age of 30 (that was exciting). All from extreme overtraining when combining intense lifting routines with intense cardio and cutting. Not healthy, I know, and I learned my lesson... or so I thought. Only my first bout came with a remarkable rash.
You've had THREE recurrences? That's extremely unusual, have you had any other unusual diseases?
It's rare, but not THAT rare. Read the others in the last few posts who have had, or know people, with recurring shingles.
No other unusual diseases here. My body just has trouble with the Herpes Zoster virus. Probably because I caught Chicken Pox at such a late age (33ish) and my body didn't have years to get used to it. My immune system didn't mature while having to deal with the virus like most people's did. As with all Herpes viruses, outbreaks diminish after time.
Do you know how the diagnosis was done? Unless they did some molecular tests, it's quite possible it's HSV, not Herpes Zoster.
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Maybe the OPs can change your nick to NotAmused
By the way, wow! I stand in awe of you actually making it to the hospital. And I am glad you are alive.
I know you cannot take a muligan for this year, but hopefully new and better things will come your way next year. Right now you need these next couple of months to recuperate both physically and mentally from all your hardships.
I am an email away if you need anything.
Originally posted by: Amused
Well, when they poked me in the spine three times they got a good sample and found HZ in my spinal fluid along with white blood cells. So I'm guessing that they aren't guessing.
Either way, if it was either HSV 1 or 2 or HZ, the antiviral treatment is the same, as is the prognosis.
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Amused
Well, when they poked me in the spine three times they got a good sample and found HZ in my spinal fluid along with white blood cells. So I'm guessing that they aren't guessing.
Either way, if it was either HSV 1 or 2 or HZ, the antiviral treatment is the same, as is the prognosis.
If they did PCR or serology then I'm convinced, but if they just did cell counts, I'd bet on HSV.
Not that it matters, I'm just particular.
In any case, glad you came out okay.
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
some years back, probably about 10ish, my mom had meningitis, realllyyy bad. she also gets really severe migraines so at first she just thought it was that. she was in the hospital for over a week and i was terrified to go and visit her. she looked like death. she had meningitis once as a child also and the doctors said something like that if she hadnt gotten to the hospital when she did, even 20 minutes later, it could have killed her. scary scary.
then, the shingles thing. my father gets shingles. I remember as a kid, he would get them fairly often. at least once a year, and it was always really awful and painful. but he seemed to really tuff it out like a big strong man. its pretty nasty and very contagious. so in regards to whoever saying it is uncommon for shingles to reoccur, not in my dads case!
yikes though. im glad youre kicking some meningitis assssss
Well, shingles is not contagious unless someone who has never had Chicken Pox comes in contact with one of the rash blisters... and then they get the chicken pox, not shingles.
I would think this accurate.
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
some years back, probably about 10ish, my mom had meningitis, realllyyy bad. she also gets really severe migraines so at first she just thought it was that. she was in the hospital for over a week and i was terrified to go and visit her. she looked like death. she had meningitis once as a child also and the doctors said something like that if she hadnt gotten to the hospital when she did, even 20 minutes later, it could have killed her. scary scary.
then, the shingles thing. my father gets shingles. I remember as a kid, he would get them fairly often. at least once a year, and it was always really awful and painful. but he seemed to really tuff it out like a big strong man. its pretty nasty and very contagious. so in regards to whoever saying it is uncommon for shingles to reoccur, not in my dads case!
yikes though. im glad youre kicking some meningitis assssss
Well, shingles is not contagious unless someone who has never had Chicken Pox comes in contact with one of the rash blisters... and then they get the chicken pox, not shingles.
I would think this accurate.
growing up we werent allowed to HUG my dad when he had shingles because it was contagious. and its nasty. its swollen, pussy, and very sore. We all had chicken pox and so did my dad once as a child. we were reducing the risk of ever contracting shingles from my dad.
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger... glad you're okay.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
some years back, probably about 10ish, my mom had meningitis, realllyyy bad. she also gets really severe migraines so at first she just thought it was that. she was in the hospital for over a week and i was terrified to go and visit her. she looked like death. she had meningitis once as a child also and the doctors said something like that if she hadnt gotten to the hospital when she did, even 20 minutes later, it could have killed her. scary scary.
then, the shingles thing. my father gets shingles. I remember as a kid, he would get them fairly often. at least once a year, and it was always really awful and painful. but he seemed to really tuff it out like a big strong man. its pretty nasty and very contagious. so in regards to whoever saying it is uncommon for shingles to reoccur, not in my dads case!
yikes though. im glad youre kicking some meningitis assssss
Well, shingles is not contagious unless someone who has never had Chicken Pox comes in contact with one of the rash blisters... and then they get the chicken pox, not shingles.
I would think this accurate.
growing up we werent allowed to HUG my dad when he had shingles because it was contagious. and its nasty. its swollen, pussy, and very sore. We all had chicken pox and so did my dad once as a child. we were reducing the risk of ever contracting shingles from my dad.
You and your parents were fed misinformation. You cannot "catch" the shingles. I promise you this. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
some years back, probably about 10ish, my mom had meningitis, realllyyy bad. she also gets really severe migraines so at first she just thought it was that. she was in the hospital for over a week and i was terrified to go and visit her. she looked like death. she had meningitis once as a child also and the doctors said something like that if she hadnt gotten to the hospital when she did, even 20 minutes later, it could have killed her. scary scary.
then, the shingles thing. my father gets shingles. I remember as a kid, he would get them fairly often. at least once a year, and it was always really awful and painful. but he seemed to really tuff it out like a big strong man. its pretty nasty and very contagious. so in regards to whoever saying it is uncommon for shingles to reoccur, not in my dads case!
yikes though. im glad youre kicking some meningitis assssss
Well, shingles is not contagious unless someone who has never had Chicken Pox comes in contact with one of the rash blisters... and then they get the chicken pox, not shingles.
I would think this accurate.
growing up we werent allowed to HUG my dad when he had shingles because it was contagious. and its nasty. its swollen, pussy, and very sore. We all had chicken pox and so did my dad once as a child. we were reducing the risk of ever contracting shingles from my dad.
You and your parents were fed misinformation. You cannot "catch" the shingles. I promise you this. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
It's scary how fast I am shriveling up. At this age muscle is lost FAST when you stop lifting.
I knew there was some reason that I never started! :laugh:
Ah! But the upside is that when I lose muscle mass due to injury or illness, I become NORMAL rather than looking like a concentration camp survivor.![]()
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
some years back, probably about 10ish, my mom had meningitis, realllyyy bad. she also gets really severe migraines so at first she just thought it was that. she was in the hospital for over a week and i was terrified to go and visit her. she looked like death. she had meningitis once as a child also and the doctors said something like that if she hadnt gotten to the hospital when she did, even 20 minutes later, it could have killed her. scary scary.
then, the shingles thing. my father gets shingles. I remember as a kid, he would get them fairly often. at least once a year, and it was always really awful and painful. but he seemed to really tuff it out like a big strong man. its pretty nasty and very contagious. so in regards to whoever saying it is uncommon for shingles to reoccur, not in my dads case!
yikes though. im glad youre kicking some meningitis assssss
Well, shingles is not contagious unless someone who has never had Chicken Pox comes in contact with one of the rash blisters... and then they get the chicken pox, not shingles.
I would think this accurate.
growing up we werent allowed to HUG my dad when he had shingles because it was contagious. and its nasty. its swollen, pussy, and very sore. We all had chicken pox and so did my dad once as a child. we were reducing the risk of ever contracting shingles from my dad.
You and your parents were fed misinformation. You cannot "catch" the shingles. I promise you this. Look it up if you don't believe me.
According to mayo clinic you are wrong. While you can't catch the "shingles" from it, if you never had chicken pox, you can catch chicken pox from being exposed to someone with the shingles.
Well, shingles is not contagious unless someone who has never had Chicken Pox comes in contact with one of the rash blisters... and then they get the chicken pox, not shingles.
Originally posted by: Regs
Good lord glad you're ok. Two infections at once, rare infections at that (Herpes Zoster), must of made a hell of a month. Did they have to do a spinal tap to diagnose the Viral Meningitis?
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Regs
Good lord glad you're ok. Two infections at once, rare infections at that (Herpes Zoster), must of made a hell of a month. Did they have to do a spinal tap to diagnose the Viral Meningitis?
Oh yes, read more of the thread to hear of my misadventures with Lumbar pokes.
I am STILL in agonizing pain when I sit up or stand.![]()
Originally posted by: ahurtt
What I took away from that story: DUDE! You got the HERPs!!
(Glad you are ok.)
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
welllll, in regards to the not hugging my dad, it was a long time ago. i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt want us to touch him because he was in an incredible amount of pain or/and because it was NASTTYYYY. i remember seeing them, pussy and swollen and nasty. lol
in any case, anyone who HAS had chicken pox CAN get shingles, its pretty much what it is; reoccurring chicken pox in adulthood. anyways.
Amused, eat some Turkey and feel better![]()
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Amused, your ass is still fine, right?