Ross Ross Ross, your wit flows like molasses 
They are also Notorious for being the fastest growing car company in automotive history, and a top selling marque in the land, where they make the cars you love...Japan
>now will always post.. I own a Tracker 4WD too.. and had a 300ZXTT<
They are also Notorious for being the fastest growing car company in automotive history, and a top selling marque in the land, where they make the cars you love...Japan
>now will always post.. I own a Tracker 4WD too.. and had a 300ZXTT<
NFS4
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<< They are also Notorious for being the fastest growing car company in automotive history, and a top selling marque in the land, where they make the cars you love...Japan >>
Too bad Japan isn't America. And Americans don't like cheap cars...they like "expensive" stuff. That's why people pay more money for Camrys and Accords than they do for Taurus' and Grand Prix's. That's why I've been seeing commercials on TV for the Grand Am trying to say how it is $2,500 less expensive than the Accord with the same options and the Grand Prix is $3,500 less than the same equipment level Maxima. Too bad the ads don't work b/c the Camry and Accord are the #1 and #2 selling cars in America.
Americans don't care, they'll pay more anyway and it's gonna take more than long warranties and fru fru styling to sway Americans.
Of course, you're still gonna have the peeps that are gonna be drawn in by the low price and pick up one, but you won't see a Camry or Accord owner taking a step down for a Hyundai. Hell, I know most people would rather go domestic than go with Hyundai. I know I'd pick a Grand Prix over a XG300 or a Focus over an Elantra.
Besides, this new "Snot"-a will get it's a$$ kicked by the new Altima which is actually bigger on the inside than the current Camrys and Accords and comes with a manual and automatic with both engines. And let's not forget that the Camry gets redesigned for '02 and the Accord for '03 (both with bigger interiors, improved engines for more horsepower/fuel efficiency, and most likely 5-speed automatics).
It's an uphill battle for Hyundai to play with the big boys..."It issssssssssssssssss, isn't it
" On a side note, 0-60 in 6.5 seconds from a 5-speed automatic 200HP sedan from Hyundai has BS written all over it
A Lexus LS430 (290HP) and Infiniti Q45 (340) hit 60 in 6.5. A 260HP Acura TL Type-S does 0-60 in 6.3.
Camry (192) - 8.0
Accord (200HP)- 8.1
RossMAN
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I would have come back with a witty reply but it looks like NFS4 beat me to it. I don't care which country produces a product, of course I prefer it be America but when it comes to cars/electronics I prefer Japanese because they make quality stuff. Show me that Hyundai makes a reliable car that will easily last 15 years or more than 200,000 miles then I'll eagerly pay for it.
NF4S: as in when this post was active a longggg time ago, you have some facts messed up again.
1. I said fastest growing automotive company in history.. That means everywhere Japan, Usa, Europe, etc...
Allow me to paraphrase a bit...
Car & Driver... Hyundai keeps impressing and impressing.
CR... Best Buy Elantra.
Edmunds... A winner to our editors, other makes.. look out. Solidly built, better interior pieces than cars priced higher.
Motor Trend... The XG300 beats the Accord and Camry in most every definable aspect.
Besides, you only praise it that much more if you compare it to cars that it is not supposed to compete against.
Now on to defects...
Hyundai 2000 "Only BMW had a lower DR than Hyundai" hmm where is that Honda reliability? lol...
Look I can go on and on with you or anyone else.. I never ever get caught up in the "hype" of things.. I have owned 2 Honda's and they just were not that good.
I have had 3 Toyota's I MUCH prefer them over Honda..
A Suzuki Grand Vitara... and
Can't leave out my Nissan 300ZXTT
...and now an Elantra GLS and a Tracker 4WD
If you care to argue on the merits of each car then please try.. An Elantra beats a Civic in EVERY way you can measure a car. Period.
I may be older than you, I may not be.. but I certainly recall people laughing at my dad for getting a Toyota in the 70's... now no-one would dare laugh.
It's just not healthy to stay blindly fixated to a brand.
As for you picking up a Grand Prix ( a car known for massive recalls over a Sonata.. congrats.. you will prolly pay more get a car that does not handle as well, breaks down more, is slower in 0-60 and top end, and takes longer to break from 70.
As for a Focus against the Elantra.. umm.. lets put it this way.. it would have an even harder time than the Grand Prix would with the Sonata.
Ross: most any car will last 200K it's all in how you care for them. We sold our 93 Scoupe Turbo with 93K miles on it, never saw the dealer, just as the Elantra has not, and it was a turbo to boot!
1. I said fastest growing automotive company in history.. That means everywhere
Japan, Usa, Europe, etc...Allow me to paraphrase a bit...
Car & Driver... Hyundai keeps impressing and impressing.
CR... Best Buy Elantra.
Edmunds... A winner to our editors, other makes.. look out. Solidly built, better interior pieces than cars priced higher.
Motor Trend... The XG300 beats the Accord and Camry in most every definable aspect.
Besides, you only praise it that much more if you compare it to cars that it is not supposed to compete against.
Now on to defects...
Hyundai 2000 "Only BMW had a lower DR than Hyundai" hmm where is that Honda reliability? lol...
Look I can go on and on with you or anyone else.. I never ever get caught up in the "hype" of things.. I have owned 2 Honda's and they just were not that good.
I have had 3 Toyota's I MUCH prefer them over Honda..
A Suzuki Grand Vitara... and
Can't leave out my Nissan 300ZXTT
...and now an Elantra GLS and a Tracker 4WD
If you care to argue on the merits of each car then please try.. An Elantra beats a Civic in EVERY way you can measure a car. Period.
I may be older than you, I may not be.. but I certainly recall people laughing at my dad for getting a Toyota in the 70's... now no-one would dare laugh.
It's just not healthy to stay blindly fixated to a brand.
As for you picking up a Grand Prix ( a car known for massive recalls over a Sonata.. congrats.. you will prolly pay more get a car that does not handle as well, breaks down more, is slower in 0-60 and top end, and takes longer to break from 70.
As for a Focus against the Elantra.. umm.. lets put it this way.. it would have an even harder time than the Grand Prix would with the Sonata.
Ross: most any car will last 200K it's all in how you care for them. We sold our 93 Scoupe Turbo with 93K miles on it, never saw the dealer, just as the Elantra has not, and it was a turbo to boot!
RossMAN
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Here's an Edmunds.com Long-Term Road Test for the 2001 Hyundai Elantra GLS:
<< "If this thing holds up, there won't be reason to buy a Japanese economy car anymore." That's what Editor-in-Chief Christian Wardlaw offered after two weeks behind the wheel of our new Pewter 2001 Hyundai Elantra GLS long-term test car.
What? A Hyundai Elantra? The BMW freaks at Edmunds lost their '99 328i, and they chose to replace it with (gasp!) a Hyundai Elantra? Melodramatic, yes, but you might be wondering why we've selected a cheap econobox for our long-term test program when we could have had our pick of a number of new-for-2001 sedans, including the performance-tuned Lexus IS 300 and promising Volvo S60.
We elected to subject the Elantra to a long-term test for two reasons. First, Hyundai sales have skyrocketed since the company introduced its incredible 10-year/100,000-mile warranty. Because of the brand's increasing popularity and its long-standing reputation for poor quality, we wanted to see if the company's bread-and-butter model would be able to withstand two years and 35,000 hard auto-journalist miles. Second, we wanted to offer our readers a long-term test of a brand-new vehicle that is easily accessible to almost anyone who is gainfully employed. Previously, the least expensive model we'd ever tested was the 2000 Ford Focus ZX3, which we loaded up with nearly every option, pushing the sticker above $15,000. Our Elantra is as basic as they come, with only floor mats, mudguards and California emissions added to the bottom line. After negotiations and what can only be characterized as an unnecessary rebate, we paid barely more than $12,100 for our thoughtfully equipped test car.
Wardlaw picked the Elantra up from Keyes Hyundai, in Van Nuys, California. Our salesman, Karim Payam, was excited to see him ? our purchase allowed him to break his old monthly sales record of 30 cars. Payam sat Wardlaw down, explained how the warranty worked, gave him the keys and sent him on his way.
Upon arrival at home, Wardlaw reviewed the paperwork. Prior to delivery, dealership personnel inspect Hyundais as part of the company's Value Delivery System. According to the "Technical Pre-delivery Inspection" form, the transfer case oil in our front-wheel drive Elantra checked out just fine. (No, silly, our car doesn't have a transfer case. We're citing this as an example of the dealership's lack of attention to detail. But since sections Four and Five of the Value Delivery System were left completely blank, this fact was blatantly obvious.)
After making sure all documentation was in order, Wardlaw went to work removing dealership insignias, leftover window stickers that the dealer hadn't removed and inspecting the vehicle inside and out. In terms of build quality, the Elantra was tight, except for a gross misalignment of the front fascia. Inside, there was sticky goo left over from the prep process on both rear armrests. Otherwise our car had no flaws.
"I'm amazed at how much content Hyundai packs into this low-priced economy sedan," Wardlaw noted in our virgin logbook. The satisfying level of standard equipment that comes on every Elantra also surprises most others on staff. Hyundai builds only one trim level, the GLS. Simplifying the lineup makes it easier to offer more features for less money.
The Elantra is equipped with air conditioning, power windows and door locks, power outside mirrors, tilt steering wheel, 60/40 split-folding rear seat, overhead console with map lights and sunglasses storage, and two-tiered center console storage. A multi-configurable driver seat, digital clock, rear window defroster and side airbags (!) are also included in the base price.
What will surprise you more is in the details. Those power windows include a driver's express-down feature, and each switch is brightly illuminated at night. Those power mirrors are also heated. That driver seat offers seat cushion height and tilt adjustment, along with adjustable lumbar support. That defroster is timed to shut itself down after a period of time. That center console is shaped to hold CD jewel cases and includes a softly padded armrest.
Beyond that, the front doors have bright red courtesy lamps. The dash is constructed of cushiony, pliable material. Storage areas are rubberized and lined with felt material to keep rattles, buzzes and squeaks to a minimum. Doors slam shut with an authoritative thunk!
Additionally, the digital odometer offers both Trip A and Trip B settings. There's a low fuel indicator light. Backseat riders get rear headrests that adjust for height, and there are also three-point Automatic Locking Retractor/Emergency Locking Retractor (ALR/ELR) seatbelts in back, even for the middle passenger. Front seatbelts have pre-tensioners and force limiters. The front passenger airbag has a passenger presence detection system that instructs the supplemental restraint to inflate only if something of sufficient weight is placed on the front passenger seat. Bumpers front and rear can withstand 5-mph impacts. The tires are high-quality Michelins, not home-market Hankooks or Kumhos.
A penalty box the Elantra is not. Additional niceties like cruise control, a CD player with six speakers and remote keyless entry are bundled into a $750 option package. Other options include a four-speed automatic transmission, a power sunroof and four-wheel disc antilock brakes with traction control (good luck finding the latter option in the Sunbelt. We tried with zero success). Alloy wheels and a decklid spoiler can also be ordered.
Of the options we didn't get, the only ones we're likely to miss are those in the basic option package. Prepare to read constant staff gripes in future updates about the lack of a CD player. ("The lack of a CD player is a total bummer," wrote one editor who drove the car home for a night.) It's not like we didn't try to get one. The Elantra brochure shows a photo of the optional head unit with in-dash CD player, and there's a slot beneath the existing head unit that could be filled with an add-on CD player or in-dash changer. Keyes Hyundai explained that to get the CD player, you must order the package that contains the CD player ? an individual replacement or add-on unit is not available from the dealer. They did offer to install an aftermarket CD changer in the trunk, but because the Elantra isn't a likely candidate for a long-distance cross-country haul, we nixed the idea. But it would behoove Hyundai to offer a dealer-installed replacement head unit or add-on CD player for a coupla hundred bucks to make commuters like us happy.
If anyone takes the Elantra on a road trip, at which it would do quite well if early indications prove true, the lack of cruise control is also likely to cause consternation. (That same scribe who complained about the lack of a CD player also wrote: "I missed the convenience of cruise control in this car..." With its comfortable seating, roomy trunk and ability to cover ground at the rate of 80 mph without breaking a sweat, the Elantra would make a fine highway traveler, but holding the accelerator pedal for hundreds of miles on end doesn't entice us to find out.
Mechanically, a 140-horsepower dual overhead cam, 16-valve four-cylinder engine displacing 2 liters powers our 2,635-pound Elantra. It is mated to a five-speed manual transmission, and gets 25 mpg in the city and 33 mpg on the highway, according to the EPA. A four-wheel independent suspension (struts in front, multi-link in back), power rack-and-pinion steering and front disc/rear drum brakes manage ride, handling and braking duty. Adhering the Elantra to the road are P195/60HR15 Michelin Energy tires that are quiet yet grippy.
Wardlaw was duly impressed. Recall that the old Elantra ranked third in a field of nine economy sedans in a comparison test we conducted last year. This new one might well have snagged first place if the same test were run today, even though this new car doesn't have the same scrappy, take-on-all-comers character of the old car.
"Comfortable and peppy, Elantra is a wonderful Point A to Point B sort of car," Wardlaw opined in our logbook. "The somewhat soft suspension does a great job of smoothing out irregularities in the pavement, providing an isolated ride without excessive float. It is tuned to give the non-enthusiast commuter a relaxing yet controlled ride, soothing even after a hard day at the office." He did note that body roll is excessive, despite front and rear stabilizer bars, but that the tires grip well even when pushed hard.
Refinement is not only found in the Elantra's details, but also in cabin design. "The turn signal stalk feels three times more substantial than what Cadillac and Lincoln provide in the Catera and LS," wrote Wardlaw. "Admittedly, this is a pretty simple dash layout, but everything is right where you expect it to be. And Hyundai has done an excellent job of quelling road rumble, engine roar and tire whine. This is a surprisingly quiet compact, especially in the city." In fact, so quiet are our Elantra's insides that by the end of his stint behind the wheel, he had detected a barely audible buzzing noise coming from the area near where the passenger B-pillar and headliner meet. Another editor also noted the buzzing noise, writing: "I noticed a buzzing noise coming from the passenger side front, up near the headliner. This kind of thing in a brand-new car concerns me. How much is it gonna rattle and buzz with 50,000 miles on it, or even 30,000?" Wardlaw thinks it would have gone largely unnoticed in other cars of this ilk.
From a design standpoint, Wardlaw claims Hyundai almost got this one perfect. He doesn't like the "frowning" front styling, but did note that the headlights do a beautiful job of illuminating the road at night, casting a bright, even, well-defined pattern on the pavement free of splotches and shadows. He also praised the bolt-on plastic wheelcovers, which, from farther away than 20 feet, look like attractive six-spoke alloy wheels.
Before we sum up this introduction to our new Elantra, let's be clear about Hyundai's warranty coverage. The powertrain warranty is 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, and it covers most engine and transmission components. This coverage is good only for the original owner; subsequent owners get 5 years or 60,000 miles, which is also the length of the standard bumper-to-bumper warranty. Twenty-four hour roadside assistance, something Honda, Nissan and Toyota fail to offer, is standard and good for 5 years no matter how many miles you've driven. Finally, you're protected against rust perforation (inside to outside) for 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first.
"At $12,100, how can you go wrong with this car?" asks Wardlaw. During the next 2 years and 35,000 miles, we'll see if the 2001 Hyundai Elantra disproves the adage that you get what you pay for.
Current Odometer: 1,016
Best Fuel Economy: 27.9 mpg
Worst Fuel Economy: 26.1 mpg
Average Fuel Economy (over the life of the vehicle): 27.3 mpg
Body Repair Costs: None
Maintenance Costs: None
Problems: Rattle in headliner. >>
What do you guys think?
<< "If this thing holds up, there won't be reason to buy a Japanese economy car anymore." That's what Editor-in-Chief Christian Wardlaw offered after two weeks behind the wheel of our new Pewter 2001 Hyundai Elantra GLS long-term test car.
What? A Hyundai Elantra? The BMW freaks at Edmunds lost their '99 328i, and they chose to replace it with (gasp!) a Hyundai Elantra? Melodramatic, yes, but you might be wondering why we've selected a cheap econobox for our long-term test program when we could have had our pick of a number of new-for-2001 sedans, including the performance-tuned Lexus IS 300 and promising Volvo S60.
We elected to subject the Elantra to a long-term test for two reasons. First, Hyundai sales have skyrocketed since the company introduced its incredible 10-year/100,000-mile warranty. Because of the brand's increasing popularity and its long-standing reputation for poor quality, we wanted to see if the company's bread-and-butter model would be able to withstand two years and 35,000 hard auto-journalist miles. Second, we wanted to offer our readers a long-term test of a brand-new vehicle that is easily accessible to almost anyone who is gainfully employed. Previously, the least expensive model we'd ever tested was the 2000 Ford Focus ZX3, which we loaded up with nearly every option, pushing the sticker above $15,000. Our Elantra is as basic as they come, with only floor mats, mudguards and California emissions added to the bottom line. After negotiations and what can only be characterized as an unnecessary rebate, we paid barely more than $12,100 for our thoughtfully equipped test car.
Wardlaw picked the Elantra up from Keyes Hyundai, in Van Nuys, California. Our salesman, Karim Payam, was excited to see him ? our purchase allowed him to break his old monthly sales record of 30 cars. Payam sat Wardlaw down, explained how the warranty worked, gave him the keys and sent him on his way.
Upon arrival at home, Wardlaw reviewed the paperwork. Prior to delivery, dealership personnel inspect Hyundais as part of the company's Value Delivery System. According to the "Technical Pre-delivery Inspection" form, the transfer case oil in our front-wheel drive Elantra checked out just fine. (No, silly, our car doesn't have a transfer case. We're citing this as an example of the dealership's lack of attention to detail. But since sections Four and Five of the Value Delivery System were left completely blank, this fact was blatantly obvious.)
After making sure all documentation was in order, Wardlaw went to work removing dealership insignias, leftover window stickers that the dealer hadn't removed and inspecting the vehicle inside and out. In terms of build quality, the Elantra was tight, except for a gross misalignment of the front fascia. Inside, there was sticky goo left over from the prep process on both rear armrests. Otherwise our car had no flaws.
"I'm amazed at how much content Hyundai packs into this low-priced economy sedan," Wardlaw noted in our virgin logbook. The satisfying level of standard equipment that comes on every Elantra also surprises most others on staff. Hyundai builds only one trim level, the GLS. Simplifying the lineup makes it easier to offer more features for less money.
The Elantra is equipped with air conditioning, power windows and door locks, power outside mirrors, tilt steering wheel, 60/40 split-folding rear seat, overhead console with map lights and sunglasses storage, and two-tiered center console storage. A multi-configurable driver seat, digital clock, rear window defroster and side airbags (!) are also included in the base price.
What will surprise you more is in the details. Those power windows include a driver's express-down feature, and each switch is brightly illuminated at night. Those power mirrors are also heated. That driver seat offers seat cushion height and tilt adjustment, along with adjustable lumbar support. That defroster is timed to shut itself down after a period of time. That center console is shaped to hold CD jewel cases and includes a softly padded armrest.
Beyond that, the front doors have bright red courtesy lamps. The dash is constructed of cushiony, pliable material. Storage areas are rubberized and lined with felt material to keep rattles, buzzes and squeaks to a minimum. Doors slam shut with an authoritative thunk!
Additionally, the digital odometer offers both Trip A and Trip B settings. There's a low fuel indicator light. Backseat riders get rear headrests that adjust for height, and there are also three-point Automatic Locking Retractor/Emergency Locking Retractor (ALR/ELR) seatbelts in back, even for the middle passenger. Front seatbelts have pre-tensioners and force limiters. The front passenger airbag has a passenger presence detection system that instructs the supplemental restraint to inflate only if something of sufficient weight is placed on the front passenger seat. Bumpers front and rear can withstand 5-mph impacts. The tires are high-quality Michelins, not home-market Hankooks or Kumhos.
A penalty box the Elantra is not. Additional niceties like cruise control, a CD player with six speakers and remote keyless entry are bundled into a $750 option package. Other options include a four-speed automatic transmission, a power sunroof and four-wheel disc antilock brakes with traction control (good luck finding the latter option in the Sunbelt. We tried with zero success). Alloy wheels and a decklid spoiler can also be ordered.
Of the options we didn't get, the only ones we're likely to miss are those in the basic option package. Prepare to read constant staff gripes in future updates about the lack of a CD player. ("The lack of a CD player is a total bummer," wrote one editor who drove the car home for a night.) It's not like we didn't try to get one. The Elantra brochure shows a photo of the optional head unit with in-dash CD player, and there's a slot beneath the existing head unit that could be filled with an add-on CD player or in-dash changer. Keyes Hyundai explained that to get the CD player, you must order the package that contains the CD player ? an individual replacement or add-on unit is not available from the dealer. They did offer to install an aftermarket CD changer in the trunk, but because the Elantra isn't a likely candidate for a long-distance cross-country haul, we nixed the idea. But it would behoove Hyundai to offer a dealer-installed replacement head unit or add-on CD player for a coupla hundred bucks to make commuters like us happy.
If anyone takes the Elantra on a road trip, at which it would do quite well if early indications prove true, the lack of cruise control is also likely to cause consternation. (That same scribe who complained about the lack of a CD player also wrote: "I missed the convenience of cruise control in this car..."
With its comfortable seating, roomy trunk and ability to cover ground at the rate of 80 mph without breaking a sweat, the Elantra would make a fine highway traveler, but holding the accelerator pedal for hundreds of miles on end doesn't entice us to find out.Mechanically, a 140-horsepower dual overhead cam, 16-valve four-cylinder engine displacing 2 liters powers our 2,635-pound Elantra. It is mated to a five-speed manual transmission, and gets 25 mpg in the city and 33 mpg on the highway, according to the EPA. A four-wheel independent suspension (struts in front, multi-link in back), power rack-and-pinion steering and front disc/rear drum brakes manage ride, handling and braking duty. Adhering the Elantra to the road are P195/60HR15 Michelin Energy tires that are quiet yet grippy.
Wardlaw was duly impressed. Recall that the old Elantra ranked third in a field of nine economy sedans in a comparison test we conducted last year. This new one might well have snagged first place if the same test were run today, even though this new car doesn't have the same scrappy, take-on-all-comers character of the old car.
"Comfortable and peppy, Elantra is a wonderful Point A to Point B sort of car," Wardlaw opined in our logbook. "The somewhat soft suspension does a great job of smoothing out irregularities in the pavement, providing an isolated ride without excessive float. It is tuned to give the non-enthusiast commuter a relaxing yet controlled ride, soothing even after a hard day at the office." He did note that body roll is excessive, despite front and rear stabilizer bars, but that the tires grip well even when pushed hard.
Refinement is not only found in the Elantra's details, but also in cabin design. "The turn signal stalk feels three times more substantial than what Cadillac and Lincoln provide in the Catera and LS," wrote Wardlaw. "Admittedly, this is a pretty simple dash layout, but everything is right where you expect it to be. And Hyundai has done an excellent job of quelling road rumble, engine roar and tire whine. This is a surprisingly quiet compact, especially in the city." In fact, so quiet are our Elantra's insides that by the end of his stint behind the wheel, he had detected a barely audible buzzing noise coming from the area near where the passenger B-pillar and headliner meet. Another editor also noted the buzzing noise, writing: "I noticed a buzzing noise coming from the passenger side front, up near the headliner. This kind of thing in a brand-new car concerns me. How much is it gonna rattle and buzz with 50,000 miles on it, or even 30,000?" Wardlaw thinks it would have gone largely unnoticed in other cars of this ilk.
From a design standpoint, Wardlaw claims Hyundai almost got this one perfect. He doesn't like the "frowning" front styling, but did note that the headlights do a beautiful job of illuminating the road at night, casting a bright, even, well-defined pattern on the pavement free of splotches and shadows. He also praised the bolt-on plastic wheelcovers, which, from farther away than 20 feet, look like attractive six-spoke alloy wheels.
Before we sum up this introduction to our new Elantra, let's be clear about Hyundai's warranty coverage. The powertrain warranty is 10 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, and it covers most engine and transmission components. This coverage is good only for the original owner; subsequent owners get 5 years or 60,000 miles, which is also the length of the standard bumper-to-bumper warranty. Twenty-four hour roadside assistance, something Honda, Nissan and Toyota fail to offer, is standard and good for 5 years no matter how many miles you've driven. Finally, you're protected against rust perforation (inside to outside) for 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first.
"At $12,100, how can you go wrong with this car?" asks Wardlaw. During the next 2 years and 35,000 miles, we'll see if the 2001 Hyundai Elantra disproves the adage that you get what you pay for.
Current Odometer: 1,016
Best Fuel Economy: 27.9 mpg
Worst Fuel Economy: 26.1 mpg
Average Fuel Economy (over the life of the vehicle): 27.3 mpg
Body Repair Costs: None
Maintenance Costs: None
Problems: Rattle in headliner. >>
What do you guys think?
Sounds like they really hated it to me Ross
BTW Hyundai picked up 2 more sponsers now, in their auto racing ventures.. Four companies now solidly on board with them... Many people with the Tibby, ( esp here in Texas since we have a local shop that is connected with them, have the Turbo, that Hyundai has in Korea for it.. People with your Civic Ex's or whatever.. don't even try.
BTW Hyundai picked up 2 more sponsers now, in their auto racing ventures.. Four companies now solidly on board with them... Many people with the Tibby, ( esp here in Texas since we have a local shop that is connected with them, have the Turbo, that Hyundai has in Korea for it.. People with your Civic Ex's or whatever.. don't even try.
Wow, I'm korean and I'm impressed. Hyundai's come along way since the days of those old hoopdi excels. Gotta test drive one sometime.
RossMAN
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ROTFLMAO read some of the Hyundai Sonata posts in this Edmunds.com forum.
Again I think I'll stick with the tried and proven Accord, Camry and Maxima.
Again I think I'll stick with the tried and proven Accord, Camry and Maxima.
From Hot Deals, here
RossMAN
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<< sekii - I agree that $6750 is a very good price for a brand new car, granted it's a POS but you really don't care because it'll probably only be worth $2,000 - $3,000 when you sell it. I would definitely spring the $750 for a/c though.
Techie333 - I wish I knew some Hyundai Elantra and Sonata owners because I'll be buying a new car in 2-3 years and might seriously consider either of these cars. Here's a great Hyundai thread which you should post to so it gets bumped back up to the top Seriously though the Elantra and Sonata offer incredible bang for your buck sure they don't have great resale value but my main concern is RELIABILITY! The 80's and early 90's Hyundai's were horrible cars.
The Hyundai Elantra and Ford Focus offer a lot of car for your dollar.
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Wow.
You really are the Grand Nagus, RossMAN.
Wombat Woman >>
Mwahahahahaahaaahhaaaaaha! Now anyway, where was WW saying you're the Grand Nagus? I clicked the link in your signature, and the text is nowhere but in your signature!
RossMAN
Diamond Member
<< sekii - I agree that $6750 is a very good price for a brand new car, granted it's a POS but you really don't care because it'll probably only be worth $2,000 - $3,000 when you sell it. I would definitely spring the $750 for a/c though.
Techie333 - I wish I knew some Hyundai Elantra and Sonata owners because I'll be buying a new car in 2-3 years and might seriously consider either of these cars. Here's a great Hyundai thread which you should post to so it gets bumped back up to the top Seriously though the Elantra and Sonata offer incredible bang for your buck sure they don't have great resale value but my main concern is RELIABILITY! The 80's and early 90's Hyundai's were horrible cars.
The Hyundai Elantra and Ford Focus offer a lot of car for your dollar.
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Wow.
You really are the Grand Nagus, RossMAN.
Wombat Woman >>
Mwahahahahaahaaahhaaaaaha
! Now anyway, where was WW saying you're the Grand Nagus? I clicked the link in your signature, and the text is nowhere but in your signature!
RossMAN
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<< Mwahahahahaahaaahhaaaaaha ! Now anyway, where was WW saying you're the Grand Nagus? I clicked the link in your signature, and the text is nowhere but in your signature! >>
LOL you must be bored also? Did you notice WW's post at Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:57 PM?
focus = crap
43 trips to the dealer my cousin made....
And now its junked, flipped over
im glad some people are getting over the old hyundai stigmata
43 trips to the dealer my cousin made....
And now its junked, flipped over
im glad some people are getting over the old hyundai stigmata
Although Hyundai's have been labeled a POS over the years, my Dad had an old Exel and drove it up to 200,000 miles. He had a long commute to work so it was great for gas milage and served its purpose....as a disposable car. I had a Scoupe and it was a cool little car, especiallu for the price paid for it. It looked extremely like the Toyota Paseo, but for much less. It ran up to 150,000 and did just fine. Would I get another Hyundai....sure, why not? Their track record with me is just fine!
Hyundai is going to explode the market! Soon enough youll see modded elantras and sonotas instead of civics and eclipses..........
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