Hypocrite Drug-User Rush Limbaugh Broadcasting from Undisclosed Location. UPDATE: Agents Seize Limbaugh's Medical Rcds

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The ...ush supporters are getting more and more defensive everyday, wonder why is that?

Wouldn't have anything to do with misinformed attacks though right?

DM - You seem to misunderstand what "taking responsibility" is. His admission and actions to correct his "problem" is exactly what "taking responsibility" is. He admitted the problem and took corrective action. You can bleat on and on about hypocracy or some percied illegalities but those are far from being proven. The one thing that has been addressed though is his personal drug addiction - for which he took responsibility for. The rest is speculation ATM.

CkG

Cad, you need to re-read my posts. I never said that Rush didn't take personal responsibility. You might have misinterpreted my post where I was mentioning that it's not the media's fault that this story cropped up. IOW, don't blame the media, blame Rush.

In any event, I even gave Rush credit for taking responsibility. However, you're missing my point, which is: Rush only took responsibility AFTER the story broke and he was more or less forced to do so in light of his serious drug problem becoming public. There's a difference between that and (hypothetically) Rush coming out ahead of a major media story and admitting that he has a problem. See the difference? After the fact it's DAMAGE CONTROL, before the fact it's stepping up to the plate and admitting you have a problem without being FORCED to do so.

Sure, Rush could have denied he had a problem. He didn't, so he gets points for that, however if you don't see the difference between my two scenarios, then you're mind is hopelessly clouded by dittomania.

Ahem - Your honor I present to you the following evidence:

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
That isn't good enough for DM. He doesn't think it is considered "taking responsibility" if you do it after it becomes news.

Anyway - there are going to be people here who will milk this story for all they can. Rush is a Radio personallity - not a politician. If he was a politician - we might have an issue but Rush isn't running for office anywhere....not that you'd know it by listening to Dean(he makes a point of mentioning Rush everytime he can)

It's best not to worry about it Genesys - they aren't going to let this drop because they think this somehow hurts the credibility of Conservatives.

CkG

No, no I don't. You know what I call it? DAMAGE CONTROL. If, and I say "IF" because it never happened, Rush had come out ahead of the story and vetted his drug addiction, perhaps he would be due some respect in this matter. But please, don't let me get in the way of your pathetic excuses...

Now pay attention to the highlighted areas of each post and then weigh it against this "I never said that Rush didn't take personal responsibility." -DM Hmm...Why yes - yes you did say "no" to it isn't good enough and ",no I don't" to considering it taking responsibility if it comes after the news breaks.

So yes, You did try to say that - and that is what I was pointing out. It's good to see that you now think that he actually did take responsibility for his addiction though, because I thought we had lost you to bizarro world for a minute. But no, it is no less of a taking responsibility factor just because he did it after the news broke - it's only a respect thing - it has nothing to do with whether or not it is taking responsibility. And I also wish to point out that Rush had gone in for treatment twice before this. The news about it only triggered his resolve to try to fix it again. You can call it what you wish - Damage control, whatever - but it is still taking responsibility for his own addiction. Heck - I'm not praising him for anything - it's just that people are trying to turn this into something it is not. He took responsibility for his addiction - period. Taking responsibility for your actions is taking responsibility for your actions whether it is from being confronted or not. If you don't see that then you are off in bizarro world.

CkG

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Now pay attention to the highlighted areas of each post and then weigh it against this "I never said that Rush didn't take personal responsibility." -DM Hmm...Why yes - yes you did say "no" to it isn't good enough and ",no I don't" to considering it taking responsibility if it comes after the news breaks.

So yes, You did try to say that - and that is what I was pointing out. It's good to see that you now think that he actually did take responsibility for his addiction though, because I thought we had lost you to bizarro world for a minute. But no, it is no less of a taking responsibility factor just because he did it after the news broke - it's only a respect thing - it has nothing to do with whether or not it is taking responsibility. And I also wish to point out that Rush had gone in for treatment twice before this. The news about it only triggered his resolve to try to fix it again. You can call it what you wish - Damage control, whatever - but it is still taking responsibility for his own addiction. Heck - I'm not praising him for anything - it's just that people are trying to turn this into something it is not. He took responsibility for his addiction - period. Taking responsibility for your actions is taking responsibility for your actions whether it is from being confronted or not. If you don't see that then you are off in bizarro world.

CkG

Well Cad, I simply mispoke. These responses get typed out quickly sometimes. I agree he took personal responsibility. I already said that. Numerous times. You, however, will not agree that there's a difference between: (A) Coming out of the blue and admitting you have a drug problem, and (B) Being pressured by media allegations and criminal investigations to admit you have a problem and check yourself into rehab. Two completely different scenarios. I find it hard to believe you don't understand the difference between them.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Now pay attention to the highlighted areas of each post and then weigh it against this "I never said that Rush didn't take personal responsibility." -DM Hmm...Why yes - yes you did say "no" to it isn't good enough and ",no I don't" to considering it taking responsibility if it comes after the news breaks.

So yes, You did try to say that - and that is what I was pointing out. It's good to see that you now think that he actually did take responsibility for his addiction though, because I thought we had lost you to bizarro world for a minute. But no, it is no less of a taking responsibility factor just because he did it after the news broke - it's only a respect thing - it has nothing to do with whether or not it is taking responsibility. And I also wish to point out that Rush had gone in for treatment twice before this. The news about it only triggered his resolve to try to fix it again. You can call it what you wish - Damage control, whatever - but it is still taking responsibility for his own addiction. Heck - I'm not praising him for anything - it's just that people are trying to turn this into something it is not. He took responsibility for his addiction - period. Taking responsibility for your actions is taking responsibility for your actions whether it is from being confronted or not. If you don't see that then you are off in bizarro world.

CkG

Well Cad, I simply mispoke. These responses get typed out quickly sometimes. I agree he took personal responsibility. I already said that. Numerous times. You, however, will not agree that there's a difference between: (A) Coming out of the blue and admitting you have a drug problem, and (B) Being pressured by media allegations and criminal investigations to admit you have a problem and check yourself into rehab. Two completely different scenarios. I find it hard to believe you don't understand the difference between them.

Yes, I understand there is a difference, but it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not he took "responsibility" -which was my point. I know "how" and "why" he did it makes a difference, but only in respectability of it - not responsibility. I don't "admire" him for anything he did, but I'm glad he did what he had to do to change himself. However, how many addicted people do you know come out of the blue and admit a problem...without being confronted by someone or something? It's the nature of addiction - you hide hide hide until you are forced to admit and address the problem. Again - none of this is excusing anything he did IMO - he was weak and allowed himself to stay weak.

CkG

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

"A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago. He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist."-Ronald Reagan

A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago. He lathered himself in vanishing cream and went as a fiscal conservative.

Let's keep it simple. Rush got caught . . . then he gave a mea culpa . . . now he's accusing law enforcement of treating him unfairly. The only reason Rush isn't in jail right now is his wealth. Wealth buys "extra" rights in America. Unfortunately for Rush, there's a limit to what money can buy in a country based on law. I wonder if he will broadcast from his abode if he is placed on house arrest?

 

[0roo0roo]

after Jerry garcia passed away this is the heatless man that shrugged off the greatful dead singer as "just a dead doper."

he spent his time railing away about how drug users should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

he constantly made digs against clinton character by saying he was a pot user.

this is the man that dodged the draft by claiming his ass pimple as a medical condition. the same congenital ass pimple his father had when he fought in wwII.

the man is scum.

 

[IGBT]

Glad to see he's poking your ulcer..with half his brain tied behind his back...on drugs even..

 

[Moonbeam]

We should spend 70 million investigating Russ. And put him under oath.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We should spend 70 million investigating Russ. And put him under oath.

All they'd find is a drug-using windbag with a complete lack of integrity. Along with twenty million lemmings willing to march in lock-step off the cliff right behind him.

 

[Red Dawn]

I wonder what the Noxious Bag of Hot Gas has to say about McNabb now? That idiot has no credibility what so ever!

 

[dmcowen674]

In another sad but trueism apparently at least one of the "Righteous Borthers" was not so "Righteous".

1-6-2004 Hatfield's Death Said Caused by Cocaine

An initial autopsy found Hatfield had advanced coronary disease. A heart attack due to the disease was listed on Hatfield's death certificate.

However, Tooker said a final cause of death was not determined until after toxicology reports were completed. The death certificate will be changed to reflect cocaine as the cause of death, he said.

Tooker's office received the report of cocaine intoxication on Dec. 24, but he asked for the information to be released after the holidays out of respect to Hatfield's family.