Hypocrisy at its best - America and Americans

Sultan

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When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

Is not! We didn't use gas.....
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Everyone is a hyprocrite. What world do you live in?

lets not diverge, say aye if you agree, and if not, please give reasons.

its just really sad to see fellow americans actually still supporting this war and their government
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".


Shut up Terrorist!!!! Hypocrisy? Look in the mirror and tell us that your not a hypocrit too. There wouldn't be dead bodies in Falluja if they weren't stupid enough to shoot at Marines. People like you make me sick. Liberation and freedom come to those who want it. Obviously those who don't WILL BE TERMINATED!! UNDERSTAND FLOWER BOY???
 

0roo0roo

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ah, sultan the troll that can never see the difference between genocide and police actions.
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

Saddam did not gas the Kurds. That is a myth. Iran did it. Iraq used different agents. Iraq did use gas on Iranian soldiers.
 

Zephyr106

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Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".


Shut up Terrorist!!!! Hypocrisy? Look in the mirror and tell us that your not a hypocrit too. There wouldn't be dead bodies in Falluja if they weren't stupid enough to shoot at Marines. People like you make me sick. Liberation and freedom come to those who want it. Obviously those who don't WILL BE TERMINATED!! UNDERSTAND FLOWER BOY???

Calm down there Arnie. This isn't Austria and the year isn't 1939.

Zephyr
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".


Shut up Terrorist!!!! Hypocrisy? Look in the mirror and tell us that your not a hypocrit too. There wouldn't be dead bodies in Falluja if they weren't stupid enough to shoot at Marines. People like you make me sick. Liberation and freedom come to those who want it. Obviously those who don't WILL BE TERMINATED!! UNDERSTAND FLOWER BOY???

Calm down there Arnie. This isn't Austria and the year isn't 1939.

Zephyr


I added you to my Known Terrorists list.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ah, sultan the troll that can never see the difference between genocide and police actions.

POLICE ACTION? :eek:

So its Police action by American 'Occupying Forces' and genocide by the country's leader.

Hypocrisy at its best.

Passions
There wouldnt people dying at the hands of American soldiers in Fallujah if this ILLEGAL war never took place. Liberation and freedom does come to those who want it. Liberate yourself from stupidity and free yourself from idiocity.
 

TheBDB

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Do you think our soldiers are going around killing random people? Don't you think if that was their goal they would just bomb the sh!t out of everything? I mean with all of our technology we could do genocide a hell of a lot better if we wanted to.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: TheBDB
Do you think our soldiers are going around killing random people? Don't you think if that was their goal they would just bomb the sh!t out of everything? I mean with all of our technology we could do genocide a hell of a lot better if we wanted to.

Again you digress...

Please read my first statement:

When Saddam did the same, he was a dictator and an oppressor. When our soldiers are doing it, its police action.

And Saddam had the bombs and the gases and the military hardware (provided by our own government) to commit mass murder, or quell a rebellion as happened against the Kurds and as is going on in Fallujah.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ah, sultan the troll that can never see the difference between genocide and police actions.

POLICE ACTION? :eek:

So its Police action by American 'Occupying Forces' and genocide by the country's leader.

Hypocrisy at its best.

Passions
There wouldnt people dying at the hands of American soldiers in Fallujah if this ILLEGAL war never took place. Liberation and freedom does come to those who want it. Liberate yourself from stupidity and free yourself from idiocity.

where the hell do you live?

must be in fantasy land.

we must suck at genocide considering how incredible our weapons are and how many iraqi's are still alive.
 

Passions

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Again you digress...

Please read my first statement:

When Saddam did the same, he was a dictator and an oppressor. When our soldiers are doing it, its police action.

And Saddam had the bombs and the gases and the military hardware (provided by our own government) to commit mass murder, or quell a rebellion as happened against the Kurds and as is going on in Fallujah.

Again you digress from answering anyones question. Smart debater you are...NOT! Just keep looping yourself because you have no answer,
rolleye.gif
 

TheBDB

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Are you trying to argue that Saddam wasn't a dictator? :confused: Go get a dictionary and then come back.

Edit: I mean the OP
 

MAW1082

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Look . . . Saddam gased the Kurds and massacred the Shias. He did this essentially as part of a Civil War. Tens of thousands died to stop the Kurds and Shias from seceeding from the Iraqi Union.

In the AMERICAN civil war, hundreds of thousands of Americans died. I read the other day that 25 percent of the country's population died during that war.

Shades of grey. Lincoln stopped the South from seceeding from the Union by use of force. This is taught in the American history books as one of the most patriotic acts a President has ever ordered, even if 1/4 of the citizens in the country died because of it.

However, comparing Saddam's "putting down" of the rebellion in '91 really isnt very similar to the use of force by an occupying power.
 

Ozoned

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Only 1 "aye" and that from a non-citizen.

We will take care of you later...

 

ReiAyanami

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we are not a dictator, we are handing over iraq on june 30th, whether its smart to or not
 

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MAW:

Anyone who is teaching that anything about the Civil War is remotely patriotic is smoking crack or ill informed. The Civil War was a disaster for both sides. I lost family on both sides by the way. But your first point makes a lot of sense.

-Robert
 

rchiu

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Originally posted by: Passions

Shut up Terrorist!!!! Hypocrisy? Look in the mirror and tell us that your not a hypocrit too. There wouldn't be dead bodies in Falluja if they weren't stupid enough to shoot at Marines. People like you make me sick. Liberation and freedom come to those who want it. Obviously those who don't WILL BE TERMINATED!! UNDERSTAND FLOWER BOY???


Hehe, I bet Saddam was thinking the exact samething when he gassed the Turks. If those turks weren't stupid enough to try and rebel against his great rule, there wouldn't be all those mass graves.

See the hypocrisy yet?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

The difference is that we as Americans do not pull mutilated and charred bodies from firebombed cars, cheer, drag the bodies through the streets, and hang them from bridges. We do not kidnap journalists and missionaries, and threaten to burn them alive. The "people" who do these kinds of things, as seen in the videos from Fallujah, are not human beings in my eyes, and should not be accorded the rights and priviledges of such. They should be exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.

If you support these "people" who did this, then you are in my eyes one of them.

You disgust me.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ah, sultan the troll that can never see the difference between genocide and police actions.

POLICE ACTION? :eek:

So its Police action by American 'Occupying Forces' and genocide by the country's leader.

Hypocrisy at its best.

Passions
There wouldnt people dying at the hands of American soldiers in Fallujah if this ILLEGAL war never took place. Liberation and freedom does come to those who want it. Liberate yourself from stupidity and free yourself from idiocity.


so, what makes this war illegal?

and no, since we are occupying the country during the war, it is our job to keep the peace. not only that, but we are going after enemy combatants who are causing far too much trouble, not going after political dissenters. so, no, no hypocrisy here.
and when did we use any sorts of nerve gasses against those in fallujah?