Hypocrisy at its best - America and Americans

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

The difference is that we as Americans do not pull mutilated and charred bodies from firebombed cars, cheer, drag the bodies through the streets, and hang them from bridges. We do not kidnap journalists and missionaries, and threaten to burn them alive. The "people" who do these kinds of things, as seen in the videos from Fallujah, are not human beings in my eyes, and should not be accorded the rights and priviledges of such. They should be exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.

If you support these "people" who did this, then you are in my eyes one of them.

You disgust me.

May God give those 4 places in Heaven. Offer a prayer for them.

Just because you see those images on television on Fox or CNN doesnt make this incident the only incident of this war. Please try to understand: the Iraqi people, including those of Fallujah have seen the burned and charred bodies of many THOUSANDS of fellow Iraqis who have died by bombs falling from the sky.

You have such anger and disgust at this incident where 4 people died after over a year and a half since this war started. Just imagine, imagine the hurt, anger and disgust the Iraqis have for the Coalition forces after watching almost 55000 of their fellow countrymen dying.

I am not a religious person; I do not "pray" for anyone. I do, however, maintain standards of civility and decency, and do not glorify the deaths of others. On the other hand, the Islamic world appears to behave otherwise: Witness the celebrations of the Palestinians upon the news of 9/11. Witness the cheering of the crowd in Fallujah on seeing the charred bodies pulled from the wreckage. Witness the brutal murder of journalist (journalist! not soldier!) Danny Pearl. Witness the very concept of the suicide bomber who targets the innocent civilian who is just trying to live her life, and witness the Palestinian glorification of such. Witness the Islamic Arabs in the Sudan fighting against the Christian Blacks in the southern part of the country.

The Islamic world is sick. It is a stagnant culture that does not strive to improve the human condition. It glorifies misery and death in the name of religion. It cannot tolerate criticism of itself (witness the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, and his widespread condemnation throughout the Islamic world). It is a culture that is going nowhere.

If you identify with the Islamic world and oppose Western values, you disgust me.

Another case of Islamophobia Nothing to be said here

I can't see what Astrorath said wrong there. He is very right about the intolerance part. Sure, Islam doesn't teach intolerance, but religion is such a big part of life and culture in Muslim countries, and pre-existing prejudice and intolerant attitudes have become part of it and people use Islam as an excuse to exercise them.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

The difference is that we as Americans do not pull mutilated and charred bodies from firebombed cars, cheer, drag the bodies through the streets, and hang them from bridges. We do not kidnap journalists and missionaries, and threaten to burn them alive. The "people" who do these kinds of things, as seen in the videos from Fallujah, are not human beings in my eyes, and should not be accorded the rights and priviledges of such. They should be exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.

If you support these "people" who did this, then you are in my eyes one of them.

You disgust me.

May God give those 4 places in Heaven. Offer a prayer for them.

Just because you see those images on television on Fox or CNN doesnt make this incident the only incident of this war. Please try to understand: the Iraqi people, including those of Fallujah have seen the burned and charred bodies of many THOUSANDS of fellow Iraqis who have died by bombs falling from the sky.

You have such anger and disgust at this incident where 4 people died after over a year and a half since this war started. Just imagine, imagine the hurt, anger and disgust the Iraqis have for the Coalition forces after watching almost 55000 of their fellow countrymen dying.

I am not a religious person; I do not "pray" for anyone. I do, however, maintain standards of civility and decency, and do not glorify the deaths of others. On the other hand, the Islamic world appears to behave otherwise: Witness the celebrations of the Palestinians upon the news of 9/11. Witness the cheering of the crowd in Fallujah on seeing the charred bodies pulled from the wreckage. Witness the brutal murder of journalist (journalist! not soldier!) Danny Pearl. Witness the very concept of the suicide bomber who targets the innocent civilian who is just trying to live her life, and witness the Palestinian glorification of such. Witness the Islamic Arabs in the Sudan fighting against the Christian Blacks in the southern part of the country.

The Islamic world is sick. It is a stagnant culture that does not strive to improve the human condition. It glorifies misery and death in the name of religion. It cannot tolerate criticism of itself (witness the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, and his widespread condemnation throughout the Islamic world). It is a culture that is going nowhere.

If you identify with the Islamic world and oppose Western values, you disgust me.

Another case of Islamophobia Nothing to be said here

Wrong again. I am not afraid of Islam.

I just hold it in contempt, based on what I said above with regard to not its not striving to improve the human condition, and I feel disgust, based on its glorification of misery and death.

I have this belief that the world would be a better place without Islam.

Why dont we have a private chat about Islam? Maybe I can shed some light on the faith and maybe reduce your contempt for it, if not eliminate it.

 

[TheBDB]

Why dont we have a private chat about Islam? Maybe I can shed some light on the faith and maybe reduce your contempt for it, if not eliminate it.

I'm sure there are nice things about Islam, I've read some of the Koran so I am not totally ignorant, but what would be a lot more helpful than a private chat would be moderate Muslims to work for change from within. It does need to be brought into the 21st century, and that will only happen from within.

 

[gsaldivar]

Wrong again. I am not afraid of Islam.

I just hold it in contempt, based on what I said above with regard to not its not striving to improve the human condition, and I feel disgust, based on its glorification of misery and death.

I have this belief that the world would be a better place without Islam.

You know, the more I think about it....

..the more I have to admit that I'm beginning to agree with you.

:brokenheart:

:beer:

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

The difference is that we as Americans do not pull mutilated and charred bodies from firebombed cars, cheer, drag the bodies through the streets, and hang them from bridges. We do not kidnap journalists and missionaries, and threaten to burn them alive. The "people" who do these kinds of things, as seen in the videos from Fallujah, are not human beings in my eyes, and should not be accorded the rights and priviledges of such. They should be exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.

If you support these "people" who did this, then you are in my eyes one of them.

You disgust me.

May God give those 4 places in Heaven. Offer a prayer for them.

Just because you see those images on television on Fox or CNN doesnt make this incident the only incident of this war. Please try to understand: the Iraqi people, including those of Fallujah have seen the burned and charred bodies of many THOUSANDS of fellow Iraqis who have died by bombs falling from the sky.

You have such anger and disgust at this incident where 4 people died after over a year and a half since this war started. Just imagine, imagine the hurt, anger and disgust the Iraqis have for the Coalition forces after watching almost 55000 of their fellow countrymen dying.

I am not a religious person; I do not "pray" for anyone. I do, however, maintain standards of civility and decency, and do not glorify the deaths of others. On the other hand, the Islamic world appears to behave otherwise: Witness the celebrations of the Palestinians upon the news of 9/11. Witness the cheering of the crowd in Fallujah on seeing the charred bodies pulled from the wreckage. Witness the brutal murder of journalist (journalist! not soldier!) Danny Pearl. Witness the very concept of the suicide bomber who targets the innocent civilian who is just trying to live her life, and witness the Palestinian glorification of such. Witness the Islamic Arabs in the Sudan fighting against the Christian Blacks in the southern part of the country.

The Islamic world is sick. It is a stagnant culture that does not strive to improve the human condition. It glorifies misery and death in the name of religion. It cannot tolerate criticism of itself (witness the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, and his widespread condemnation throughout the Islamic world). It is a culture that is going nowhere.

If you identify with the Islamic world and oppose Western values, you disgust me.

Another case of Islamophobia Nothing to be said here

Wrong again. I am not afraid of Islam.

I just hold it in contempt, based on what I said above with regard to not its not striving to improve the human condition, and I feel disgust, based on its glorification of misery and death.

I have this belief that the world would be a better place without Islam.

Why dont we have a private chat about Islam? Maybe I can shed some light on the faith and maybe reduce your contempt for it, if not eliminate it.

Individuals, when they talk about Islam, always talk about how peaceful and tolerant it is. About how wonderful it is. And that's great. But all such talk is meaningless when within the Islamic culture they are teaching their children to strap on explosives and when they are flying airplanes full of passengers into buildings..

I'm sorry. I just don't see that you and I don't have anything to talk about. NONE of that behavior is justified in ANY way. Not by ANY kind of civilized beings. Period.

 

[Sultan]

I can't see what Astrorath said wrong there. He is very right about the intolerance part. Sure, Islam doesn't teach intolerance, but religion is such a big part of life and culture in Muslim countries, and pre-existing prejudice and intolerant attitudes have become part of it and people use Islam as an excuse to exercise them.

Ok... you must first stop associating actions of people with religion.

What intolerances do you speak of?

• There's Israel, which has occupied and oppressed the Palestinians for half a century.

• There was Afghanistan, laid to waste by the Soviets, where the US Government fought communism with Afghan blood

• There is Afghanistan now, where the US forces stood by watching the Northern Alliance herd people into trucks and then fire bullets into the trucks when the people started banging the walls for food and water.

• There's Chechnya, where people are ASKING for liberation and fighting for it, and none of you seem to give a hoot

• There was the Gujurat massacre of India where over 2000 Muslims were massacred and the Indian government stood by watching

• There was Bosnia where no one cared as Serbia carried out ethnic cleansing. Heard of Srebrenica? 8000 massacred.

• There is present day Iraq, where over 10000 civilans have died at the hands of the US forces and YOU are 'supporting' if not cheering on the US troops.

• How many Al-Jazeera correspondents and journalists have been killed by the US forces rececntly? Ah! Sure, they were killed in self-defense, or police action, or under rules of engagement. Surprising, apart from Taras Protsyuk, a Ukrainian and Palestinian Mazen Dana all of the 13 journalists killed have been from Al-Jazeera.

• And oh, how about Kashmir?

• And how about the 'intolerance' of France and Germany and Luxemborg in not allowing Muslim women to wear the scarf, who choose to do so themselves?

Salman Rushdie did not criticize Islam. He committed blasphemy - punishable by death in an Islamic country. Irshad Manji criticized Islam. Can you see a difference?

Maybe you Christians and Jews and Hindus and atheists need to bring about a change from within. State of you all, bringing the Islamic faith into a discussion about American actions against the Iraqi people.

I have this belief that the world would be a better place without Islam

If two of you LITERATE people offering your views on Anandtech have this opinion, I am sure millions of illiterate Muslims around the world hold similar views about other faiths. Your opinion leads to this government invading a Muslim country, killing thousands of Muslims. Many Muslims would definitely want to reciprocate. And hence the cycle.

And you hold the Islamic World in contempt? I laugh at you. Dont pray, but atleast discern truth and shrug off your phobias and biases. With such preconceived notions about races and religion, I am sure the world will be a much better place soon.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Quick question...is Iraq and its future better off now without Saddam Hussein in control or worse off?

 

[BayouL]

No,

I hear of Americans dying trying to help a people that seem to not want to be free. I see the Iraqi's opposing the Americans dying and killing their own to make it appear the Americans are to blame. But where are the dead Iraqi's that are suppose to be fighting for thier country and along side us in these battles? Do they not want to be free? Do they prefer to live in fear and in a society where they have no personal freedoms? Are they incapable of fighting? The criminals that are opposing the US are just that, criminals and thugs that need to be hunted down and killed like the animals they are. And it will happen.

A point will be reached in America that will signal it's time to let the military loose in Iraq to do what it needs to be done, and what it can do if the reigns held by the political leaders are let go. Then we'll see how brave the opposition is and how long they last.

Have nice day and live within the freedom that "others" have provide for you.

 

[etech]

Sultan, your religious fanaticism has blinded you to the truth.

 

[chrisms]

I'm an American. I had played no part in the decision to invade Iraq, and I play no part in the war today, so don't call me a hypocrite.

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: Sultan

I can't see what Astrorath said wrong there. He is very right about the intolerance part. Sure, Islam doesn't teach intolerance, but religion is such a big part of life and culture in Muslim countries, and pre-existing prejudice and intolerant attitudes have become part of it and people use Islam as an excuse to exercise them.

Ok... you must first stop associating actions of people with religion.

.

Huh? I did say that Islam teaches tolerance, but it is so much part of life in most Muslim countries, that their actions start becoming part of religion. Trust me, I have lived in Pakistan (where I know you are from too), so I know a little of what I am saying.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: BayouL
No,

I hear of Americans dying trying to help a people that seem to not want to be free. I see the Iraqi's opposing the Americans dying and killing their own to make it appear the Americans are to blame. But where are the dead Iraqi's that are suppose to be fighting for thier country and along side us in these battles? Do they not want to be free? Do they prefer to live in fear and in a society where they have no personal freedoms? Are they incapable of fighting? The criminals that are opposing the US are just that, criminals and thugs that need to be hunted down and killed like the animals they are. And it will happen.

A point will be reached in America that will signal it's time to let the military loose in Iraq to do what it needs to be done, and what it can do if the reigns held by the political leaders are let go. Then we'll see how brave the opposition is and how long they last.

Have nice day and live within the freedom that "others" have provide for you.

The army is not supposed to be a police force. They will cause lots of collateral damage. Look at fallujah: 480 dead iraqis and over 1000 injured. Not all were them were fighters.

What do you think the families and relatives of these guys will do? Support the US now?

And what is freedom in your opinion? Can you accept that they might not want any type of US presence there, right now? Isn't that freedom?

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti

Originally posted by: Sultan

I can't see what Astrorath said wrong there. He is very right about the intolerance part. Sure, Islam doesn't teach intolerance, but religion is such a big part of life and culture in Muslim countries, and pre-existing prejudice and intolerant attitudes have become part of it and people use Islam as an excuse to exercise them.

Ok... you must first stop associating actions of people with religion.

.

Huh? I did say that Islam teaches tolerance, but it is so much part of life in most Muslim countries, that their actions start becoming part of religion. Trust me, I have lived in Pakistan (where I know you are from too), so I know a little of what I am saying.

See, when the US is bombing the crap out of Iraq, and so many people dying, I dont point at Christians or Jews or Hindus or any other religion. The religiously devout President of the United States lied and deceived not only this nation, but also the world, and has not only led to the deaths of 600 US Soldiers but also over 10000 CIVILIAN deaths in Iraq.

Most of you seem to be supporting this Presidents action. And then a number of you have CONTEMPT for Islam. And again you accuse Muslims from Muslim countries of being intolerant?

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti

Originally posted by: Sultan

I can't see what Astrorath said wrong there. He is very right about the intolerance part. Sure, Islam doesn't teach intolerance, but religion is such a big part of life and culture in Muslim countries, and pre-existing prejudice and intolerant attitudes have become part of it and people use Islam as an excuse to exercise them.

Ok... you must first stop associating actions of people with religion.

.

Huh? I did say that Islam teaches tolerance, but it is so much part of life in most Muslim countries, that their actions start becoming part of religion. Trust me, I have lived in Pakistan (where I know you are from too), so I know a little of what I am saying.

See, when the US is bombing the crap out of Iraq, and so many people dying, I dont point at Christians or Jews or Hindus or any other religion. The religiously devout President of the United States lied and deceived not only this nation, but also the world, and has not only led to the deaths of 600 US Soldiers but also over 10000 CIVILIAN deaths in Iraq.

Because when Muslims attack somewhere, there is always talk of martydom and how Allah will help them in this glorious fight against the infidels, and what not. When a Muslim dies in war, any war, it's always "They died in the name of Allah fighting infidels, may Allah bless them". Do you see Bush saying that the American soldiers are dying in the way of Jesus and may Jesus bless these martyrs? Probably not. So you can't point out that Jews, Chritians or whatever are killing so and so.

 

[NesuD]

I can't see what Astrorath said wrong there. He is very right about the intolerance part. Sure, Islam doesn't teach intolerance, but religion is such a big part of life and culture in Muslim countries, and pre-existing prejudice and intolerant attitudes have become part of it and people use Islam as an excuse to exercise them.

Ok... you must first stop associating actions of people with religion.

All I can say to you Sultan is that you are so full of hot air you could float the Hindenberg. To say that we must stop associating the actions of people in the Arab world with religion is a bury your head in the sand idea. You are nothing more than a propagandist.

 

[Steeplerot]

aye. hopefully we get some "insurgents" here too in this country and take down this regime.
Perfect time for americans to take back their goverment from religious nuts and redecks with a itchy trigger finger and lying words.
Viva la revolution !

 

[cquark]

See, when the US is bombing the crap out of Iraq, and so many people dying, I dont point at Christians or Jews or Hindus or any other religion. The religiously devout President of the United States...

You have a good point--religion is the most inflammatory means of dividing "us" from "them." Labeling people as enemies by means of religion is a problem.

However, that doesn't exculpate religion from responsibility for Middle Eastern conflict, and it certainly doesn't mean we shouldn't examine religion as a cause for those conflicts. Abrahamic religon, with its basis on that barbaric Bronze Age text that Christians call the Old Testament, is an extremely effective way of combining two flaws in human nature--our tendency to carry out long term vendettas and our tendency to view people as good and bad groups--to perpetuate conflict beyond the bounds of reason. The brutal war god depicted in the OT is an inspiration for all three religions to continually recreate his atrocities in fruitless fights over what the rest of the world realizes is not an exceptionally valuable parcel of land.

All of the Abrahamic religions sound acceptable when you talk to a reasonable individual believer, and we've been taught to accept religious irrationality, like Orthodox Jews worried about using light switches on the Sabbath, in ways that we would never accept from other sources. Unfortunately, we have extended acceptance too far and blinded ourselves to the fact that the Abrahamic religion does lead to terrorism--in New York on 9/11, and in Northern Ireland and Israel/Palestine for decades.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
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Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

so what "gas" did the US use on tehse "400 victims"?

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Originally posted by: Sultan
This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about. [/quote]

yup, and the majority of iraqi's still support our being there, are you saying a better alternative would have been to leave saddam in power while those not in the baath socialist power structure starved? while corruption in the UN "oil for food" program made some UN officials and politicians from france and germany rich while the people suffered? while dissenters against saddam were butchered and dumped in mass graves by the tens of thousands? would it have better simply to protect the status quo while people died for the convenience of the socialist elite?


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Originally posted by: Sultan
This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".[/quote]

you seem to know hypocrasy well...as most "internationalists" do...from experience.[/quote]

I would like to get this whackos opinion now. Specially about the part where he says the majority of iraqis support our being there.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Dang, I thought this thread was about the band "Hypocrisy". They are a freiking awesome band.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

Not all Americans supported this war. Not all Americans are saying that the Iraqis who are fighting for their county are terrorists. Not all Americans are cheering that the US is killing Iraqis.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

Not all Americans supported this war. Not all Americans are saying that the Iraqis who are fighting for their county are terrorists. Not all Americans are cheering that the US is killing Iraqis.

I agree. But a lot of Americans do support this war (which was based on lied) and are STILL defending the actions of the US Government (which has changed its story quite a number of times on the reason to go to war).

Infact, a lot of people on this forum itself are even defending the prison abuse in Iraq or justifying it with the logic that it is not as worse as Saddam's measures. That is unbelievable.

Are these the values the US is trying to spread over the world?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Sultan
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Is not! We didn't use gas.....

oops, my bad, all the gas America had, they gave to Saddam to use

sad, real sad[/quote]

Are you really that stupid or just completely misinformed?

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: Sultan
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Is not! We didn't use gas.....

oops, my bad, all the gas America had, they gave to Saddam to use

sad, real sad

Are you really that stupid or just completely misinformed?[/quote]

Neither.

The know-how for chemical/bio weapons Iraq possessed were provided by the US for use in the Iran-Iraq war. Please read a little bit of history. Saddam was a favored leader a couple of decades ago. He even managed to sink a freaking destroyer and no action was taken.

 

[leeboy]

Originally posted by: Passions
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Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

Shut up Terrorist!!!! Hypocrisy? Look in the mirror and tell us that your not a hypocrit too. There wouldn't be dead bodies in Falluja if they weren't stupid enough to shoot at Marines. People like you make me sick. Liberation and freedom come to those who want it. Obviously those who don't WILL BE TERMINATED!! UNDERSTAND FLOWER BOY???[/quote]

Yawn. Boring and predictible. Dont call people names nancy.

:roll:

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Sultan
When Saddam gassed the Kurds who were rebelling, Saddam is a dictator and an oppressor and I dont know what other names the American government and Americans called him.

Now when the US is doing the SAME thing in Fallujah, everyone is calling the Fallujah citizens as terrorists, the Shias of Sadr city as militants and killing them left, right and center and the Americans are cheering their government on.

Over 400 dead. The bodies of residents littered around Fallujah.

This is the "liberation" and the "freedom" the Americans boast about.

This is hypocrisy at its best. Anyone who concurs, please just say "aye".

This was talked about before the US invaded Iraq. At the time the pro-war forum members would mumble something about 9/11 and terrorism and would then wrap themselves in the US flag.