Hurricane Irma track change! (for the worse!)

[BUTCH1]

If you can't find propane, you should have plenty of fallen trees to use as firewood. If I lost power for extended period of time, I would be so screwed. I have 4 fridges and freezers full of meat I would have to cook before it went bad. Probably like 400+ lbs of meat. I would be like this guy, trying to grill and BBQ before the meat goes bad.

I just got back and got REALLY lucky, after checking 8-10 places everyone was sold out. Finally I went to a small Kangaroo gas station that had 2 left, since I only had 2 empties it worked out perfect. As I was loading them into my trunk 2 other people drove up and asked if about buying some. Store shelves are getting pretty barren at this point, things like peanut butter were 100% GONE, glad I took care of that yesterday. Also was able to repair my generator gas-tank with an adhesive called "Pliobond", a relatively unknown product developed quite some time ago but gasoline wont dissolve it. Kind of a bad idea to put a plastic gas tank on a genny, although it will never rust the 2 halves are ultrasonically welded together and are notorious for failing. They have since went back to metal tanks which were available for $25 on Ebay, but I don't have time to wait for shipping. This now allowed me to buy 5 more gallons of gas, that is selling like MAD right now I was among the last that was able to buy regular, the girl was taping signs up that said 93 octane only. I have never seen this level of activity with a storm 7 days out but people are seeing pics like ViRGE just posted and are rightfully scared sh**less. If you've got that kind of $$ tied up in frozen meat, you might want to invest in a 5-6K genny as insurance.

 

[Capt Caveman]

If you can't find propane, you should have plenty of fallen trees to use as firewood. If I lost power for extended period of time, I would be so screwed. I have 4 fridges and freezers full of meat I would have to cook before it went bad. Probably like 400+ lbs of meat. I would be like this guy, trying to grill and BBQ before the meat goes bad.

What's the purpose for having to store all of that meat? My cousin and her husband used to split with others a slaughtered pig that they buy from a farmer and store about 100 lbs for themselves. I believe you buy most of your meat from Costco.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

If you've got that kind of $$ tied up in frozen meat, you might want to invest in a 5-6K genny as insurance.

Yeah, that's too much meat to cook. That kind of investment in bulk meat should be covered by a decent generator. Just a midsize one will keep the meat in all 4 freezers safe indefinitely.

And for normal people who don't have an entire herd of cows on ice, make sure you load up every inch of space in your freezers. If you've got room fill up empty 2 liter soda bottles with water and cram them in. A fully packed freezer might survive 48 hours plus without power while a half full one will start melting in less than half that time. That trick saved me during Superstorm Sandy. We lost power for about 50 hours and the only thing that melted was a little ice cream. All the meat survived fine. Plus it's the double benefit of stock-piling additional clean water.

 

[ao_ika_red]

https://m.accuweather.com/en/weathe...-tropical-storm-jose-in-the-atlantic/70002649

 

[ViRGE]

Still 185mph. Pressure is down to 914mb. And now the official NHC guidance has shifted it away from Cuba and has it cleaving Florida in two.

The good news is that the 5 day guidance has a fairly high margin of error. So this exact solution is unlikely to happen. Still, it's going to get close.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Gotta love P&N. Retarded liberals mentioning politics and the way a state voted as means for the people "deserving" to be hit with a category 5 hurricane. Can we slaughter people with that low of a level of intelligence? It would definitely help increase the average.

And they say people on the right are close-minded.

 

[BUTCH1]

Still 185mph. Pressure is down to 914mb. And now the official NHC guidance has shifted it away from Cuba and has it cleaving Florida in two.

The good news is that the 5 day guidance has a fairly high margin of error. So this exact solution is unlikely to happen. Still, it's going to get close.

Yea, when I saw the track shift over to the Western side of the state last night when I got home a little bit of relief crept in, only to see this at around 10:15. This is the WORST case scenario!, gas supplies are already getting tight, we get all our gas from TX refineries and many of them had to shut down due to Harvey's impacts. The entire Dade county area fleeing up northward followed soon by Central FL all at the same time, all using the same routes, can you say "clusterfu**" Many stations are struggling right now due to everyone filling up over the last 2 days. God, I hate all this shi*..

 

[lxskllr]

You guys should be prepping for this stuff during good times. I literally have a year's worth of shelf stable food squirreled away, and this isn't particularly a disaster area. I do it grabbing deals when they turn up. I'd keep at least 20 gallon of fuel on hand if I lived in hurricane land, and cycle through it to keep it rotated. Propane also. There's no reason to not have a couple full spares in addition to what's attached to the grill.

 

[Jeeebus]

Not particularly thrilled that I'm scheduled to be in court today and then tomorrow in Palm Beach. That's a lot of driving around when it's already damn near impossible to get gas anywhere. Ughh.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Not particularly thrilled that I'm scheduled to be in court today and then tomorrow in Palm Beach. That's a lot of driving around when it's already damn near impossible to get gas anywhere. Ughh.

Uhhh... If I was scheduled to be in court anywhere in FL I would tell them to go fuck themselves and evacuate.

 

[ViRGE]

Yea, when I saw the track shift over to the Western side of the state last night when I got home a little bit of relief crept in, only to see this at around 10:15. This is the WORST case scenario!, gas supplies are already getting tight, we get all our gas from TX refineries and many of them had to shut down due to Harvey's impacts. The entire Dade county area fleeing up northward followed soon by Central FL all at the same time, all using the same routes, can you say "clusterfu**" Many stations are struggling right now due to everyone filling up over the last 2 days. God, I hate all this shi*..

I'm optimistic that Florida will dodge this one. But you aren't wrong; a high-category storm coming right up the middle is the worst case scenario since it's going to require the largest evacuation.

 

[amdhunter]

lol. All you wussies scared of a little rain flooding your fancy houses.

I'm here in the Dominican Republic in a wooden house with metal fencing as a roof. No one panicking here yet, but there are alerts about Irma all over the radio and emergency texts every so often.

If I don't make it...I want you to know I loved each and every one of you.

 

[gorcorps]

Sometimes they drop in intensity before hitting the florida coast. If it runs over Cuba it might lose some steam. I can only hope.


The structure itself is rated to 150mph winds. The main concrete slab will survive anything, but the 3rd floor could be torn straight off if the winds reach >180mph. Which is possible.

If your house isn't broken into and used as a shelter anyway, I'd be surprised.

 

[Geekbabe]

Gotta love P&N. Retarded liberals mentioning politics and the way a state voted as means for the people "deserving" to be hit with a category 5 hurricane. Can we slaughter people with that low of a level of intelligence? It would definitely help increase the average.

And they say people on the right are close-minded.

I am a Democrat & I don't think anyone deserves the suffering involved in a natural disaster. I don't care
who you voted for. Help should be given by the country as a whole.

 

[FIVR]

If your house isn't broken into and used as a shelter anyway, I'd be surprised.

Why? Do you know from experience that florida citizens are mostly criminals? I would say they are mostly deplorable, but I wouldn't go that far. You're being a little harsh.


FYI about 60% of houses in the Keys are built to hurricane spec. That specifications includes things like metal shutters and reinforced doors and windows. They will have a hard time breaking into anything and given that the average age of Pidgeon Key residents has to be >60 I'm not too worried they will break in. Let them try.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Y'all fucked. I'm staying in chilly Michigan forever.

Hmm, salted water vs. leaded water.

 

[highland145]

Y'all fucked. I'm staying in chilly Michigan forever.

And another member just closed on a house in Naples. He was tired of the MI winters too.

 

[rcpratt]

Hmm, salted water vs. leaded water.

My water's just fine, thanks.

 

[highland145]

Not particularly thrilled that I'm scheduled to be in court today and then tomorrow in Palm Beach. That's a lot of driving around when it's already damn near impossible to get gas anywhere. Ughh.

Be safe.

lol. All you wussies scared of a little rain flooding your fancy houses.

I'm here in the Dominican Republic in a wooden house with metal fencing as a roof. No one panicking here yet, but there are alerts about Irma all over the radio and emergency texts every so often.

If I don't make it...I want you to know I loved each and every one of you.

:wub;

 

[ViRGE]

If I don't make it...I want you to know I loved each and every one of you.

Stay safe.

 

[gorcorps]

Why? Do you know from experience that florida citizens are mostly criminals? I would say they are mostly deplorable, but I wouldn't go that far. You're being a little harsh.


FYI about 60% of houses in the Keys are built to hurricane spec. That specifications includes things like metal shutters and reinforced doors and windows. They will have a hard time breaking into anything and given that the average age of Pidgeon Key residents has to be >60 I'm not too worried they will break in. Let them try.

It's not a matter of being criminal, it's a matter of survival. If somebody legitimately thinks they're going to die in their own house, but survive in yours, and they know you're not home and have no time for other options I wouldn't blame them. I'm not saying they're going to loot anything, it's just a matter of survival. I'd probably do the same thing if it was a matter of saving my own ass and I was that worried about my own house. I'd deal with replacing your door or window that I broke to get in later after I made sure I was safe.

 

[Humpy]

I have 4 fridges and freezers full of meat I would have to cook before it went bad. Probably like 400+ lbs of meat.

Collecting meat is an odd hobby.

 

[ponyo]

What's the purpose for having to store all of that meat? My cousin and her husband used to split with others a slaughtered pig that they buy from a farmer and store about 100 lbs for themselves. I believe you buy most of your meat from Costco.

BBQ is a hobby and I also have hoarding tendencies. If something is on sale, I tend to buy. It adds up over time. But none of this is worth getting a whole house generator. I have couple portable units for work I could use in extreme emergency but I would probably just cook it all and give it away in actual emergency. The only real natural disaster I have to worry about is tornado and you don't really get advance warning with those.

 

[Darwin333]

Also I should point out that it was 100% predictable that a hurricane would eventually hit the Keys again and wipe them out. Flood insurance is so expensive in the area, it isn't even worth the money. Insurance appraisers told me it would cost $25k/yr to insure my 500k property against flood... that's right, just flood.


They knew this would happen and they decided they'd just rely on their neighbors and spend the money on themselves. Pure stupidity and selfishness on their part and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

I dunno about that... You should really get a quote from another company. Flood insurance is through the federal government the insurance companies just broker the deal and since it only covers your dwelling I can't imagine the Feds setting a rate anywhere that makes it flat out unaffordable. Hell even in NOLA the rates only went up 10-15% depending on your flood zone after Katrina.

 

[FIVR]

I dunno about that... You should really get a quote from another company. Flood insurance is through the federal government the insurance companies just broker the deal and since it only covers your dwelling I can't imagine the Feds setting a rate anywhere that makes it flat out unaffordable. Hell even in NOLA the rates only went up 10-15% depending on your flood zone after Katrina.

The Florida Keys are apparently a unique case. They've been hit by so many hurricanes so often that getting both wind and flood coverage (essentially hurricane coverage) is usually about 1/10th the full cost of the property. So I would be paying for my property all over again every 10 years.


The Keys are actually relatively well-prepared compared to the mainland. People down there have been surviving these storms for centuries. They also usually build on stilts, which makes flood insurance basically worthless.

The trailer parks and trailer dwellers come down form up state and don't know what the circumstances are, and they load up on boats and recreational vehicles instead of building their homes properly. Luckily they stopped allowing that after Andrew, but many trailer dwellers are going to be wiped out by this storm who weren't wiped out by andrew. Florida decided to grandfather in their properties instead of forcing them to leave or rebuild properly (which would have been smart).