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Hunter S. Thompson dead!!!

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Originally posted by: bradruth
Regardless, actually accomplishing the goal of such a society is impossible, but is nonetheless a worthwhile cause.

Exactly. That unattainable goal gives you a purpose, something that you feel is worthwhile. It has a value, which wouldn't exist if the very people you feel are worthless didn't exist.
 
Wow. I was not a big fan of him, but he did provide some interesting social commentary. I respected his work.
 
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: bradruth
Regardless, actually accomplishing the goal of such a society is impossible, but is nonetheless a worthwhile cause.

Exactly. That unattainable goal gives you a purpose, something that you feel is worthwhile. It has a value, which wouldn't exist if the very people you feel are worthless didn't exist.

I'm not saying they're entirely "worthless" persay, but if you cause more harm than good than I'd say your value would be below the acceptable mean...know what I'm saying?
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
I'm not saying they're entirely "worthless" persay, but if you cause more harm than good than I'd say your value would be below the acceptable mean...know what I'm saying?

Harm does not exist without good, and good does not exist without harm. There's a balance, and each side has an equal value.

Even really harmful acts can create good in many ways. You need to see three steps ahead, and not just the act.

 
SacrosacntFiend, you make good points and i partially agree, but having experienced the very highest and the very lowest emotions, i can gladly say i would sarcrifice some of the highs to never feel some of the lows. i get your points, and i agree with your "value" system and how everyone has different priorities.
 
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: bradruth
I'm not saying they're entirely "worthless" persay, but if you cause more harm than good than I'd say your value would be below the acceptable mean...know what I'm saying?

Harm does not exist without good, and good does not exist without harm. There's a balance, and each side has an equal value.

Even really harmful acts can create good in many ways. You need to see three steps ahead, and not just the act.

good can exist without harm. i can give you many examples, but im sure you know the sort of thing i will say. i see how you could say that, but i dont think its necessarily true. good things can come out of bad situations, and vice versa, but i dont think it is balanced. id say more times than not good things can be done without a negative.
 
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Harm does not exist without good, and good does not exist without harm. There's a balance, and each side has an equal value.

Even really harmful acts can create good in many ways. You need to see three steps ahead, and not just the act.

I'm not saying that good can't come from bad, but I don't feel that something bad needs to happen for something good to happen. What about the birth of a child? Falling in love? Even if there was no "bad," these things would still be "good" whether or not the term exists.
 
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
SacrosacntFiend, you make good points and i partially agree, but having experienced the very highest and the very lowest emotions, i can gladly say i would sarcrifice some of the highs to never feel some of the lows. i get your points, and i agree with your "value" system and how everyone has different priorities.

I've had the lowest of lows happen right before my eyes, my views aren't without basis. From that low point, I've been able to experience and have things that I never would have been able to. I can't say for certainty if I would gladly give up what I've gained to have back what I lost. The compassionate human in me would like to think so, but I don't know...and I probably never will.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Harm does not exist without good, and good does not exist without harm. There's a balance, and each side has an equal value.

Even really harmful acts can create good in many ways. You need to see three steps ahead, and not just the act.

I'm not saying that good can't come from bad, but I don't feel that something bad needs to happen for something good to happen. What about the birth of a child? Falling in love? Even if there was no "bad," these things would still be "good" whether or not the term exists.

Why would the birth of a child be good if we did not die? Why would falling in love be good if we didn't know the lack of love? If "bad" didn't exist, how could "good?" It would just be.
 
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Harm does not exist without good, and good does not exist without harm. There's a balance, and each side has an equal value.

Even really harmful acts can create good in many ways. You need to see three steps ahead, and not just the act.

I'm not saying that good can't come from bad, but I don't feel that something bad needs to happen for something good to happen. What about the birth of a child? Falling in love? Even if there was no "bad," these things would still be "good" whether or not the term exists.

Why would the birth of a child be good if we did not die? Why would falling in love be good if we didn't know the lack of love? If "bad" didn't exist, how could "good?" It would just be.

Mmm...sweet, vanilla purgatory.
 
Johnny Depp will certain be saddened by this news.
Make sure and watch the extras on the Criterion edition of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The two became quite close before the filming of the movie as Depp spent a great deal of time with Hunter researching the role.

God , this is horrible news to me...to me its like the real ending to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. 🙁
 
Damn I cannot get over it man, this is fvdcked up!! The dumb ass should have taken a few hits and just dealt with it!! FVCK man!!!!!! FVUCK!!!


WHY?>??????
 
Originally posted by: BentValve
Johnny Depp will certain be saddened by this news.
Make sure and watch the extras on the Criterion edition of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The two became quite close before the filming of the movie as Depp spent a great deal of time with Hunter researching the role.

God , this is horrible news to me...to me its like the real ending to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. 🙁

You're not wrong - IMHO, one of the funniest and best (for want of a better word) movies of all time.
 
Oh, that "we had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip, but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can" guy I see...
 
Too bad. I enjoyed his books and other stuff he did. Sad to see an icon and storied beat poet die.

Apparently, he's not the marksman he should have been. He shot his assistant a few years ago cheasing a bear off his property.
 
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