http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/pdf/hdr04_complete.pdf
interesting to check out the stats for each country, very interesting read
interesting to check out the stats for each country, very interesting read
Human Development Report 2004
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From the repost:
what caused Canada to jump 4 places while everyone else was relatively the same?
(sorry for not wanting to download the 3MB PDF)
what caused Canada to jump 4 places while everyone else was relatively the same?
(sorry for not wanting to download the 3MB PDF)
sad to see my country crapped a big one there.. -5 ... thats awful
I highly recomend the pdf, goes into detail for every ranking, goes also into some international human right treaties, which countries have signed them and so on
I highly recomend the pdf, goes into detail for every ranking, goes also into some international human right treaties, which countries have signed them and so on
Stunt
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Czar...sorry for that...just got home from work, and i read all the topics on first page or so...didnt even see it...
Thought there'd be more discussion on this topic!
At least i did the 2003->2004 changes
Why Canada...CENTRIST government. Good human rights, quality of life, low enough taxes for a booming economy and good fiscal responsibility.
Thought there'd be more discussion on this topic!
At least i did the 2003->2004 changes
Why Canada...CENTRIST government. Good human rights, quality of life, low enough taxes for a booming economy and good fiscal responsibility.
While I'm not debating the rankings, the subtitle of the report is pretty strange: Cultural liberty in today's world. The human development rankings are supposed to take into account health, education, life expectancy, income, poverty levels and environmental quality. How does that relate to culture?
Looking at the top countries, many of those countries are pretty oppressive towards other cultures.
The Canadian government tries to control Canadian culture, TV, etc.
The Netherlands have officially claimed that multiculturalism is a failure.
Japan is extremely xenophobic (somewhat related ot culture).
Belgium is extremely racist (somewhat related to culture).
Switzerland's government has a party that has slogans such as "The Swiss are becoming negroes."
etc.
Canada isn't that bad though, not even in the same ballpark as the others I mentioned. I wonder why it's subtitled "Cultural Liberty in Today's World." Maybe it's buried deep within that 100 or so page report.
Looking at the top countries, many of those countries are pretty oppressive towards other cultures.
The Canadian government tries to control Canadian culture, TV, etc.
The Netherlands have officially claimed that multiculturalism is a failure.
Japan is extremely xenophobic (somewhat related ot culture).
Belgium is extremely racist (somewhat related to culture).
Switzerland's government has a party that has slogans such as "The Swiss are becoming negroes."
etc.
Canada isn't that bad though, not even in the same ballpark as the others I mentioned. I wonder why it's subtitled "Cultural Liberty in Today's World." Maybe it's buried deep within that 100 or so page report.
sandorski
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# The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.
That's what "culture" is, not entirely sure what "Cultural Freedom" is, though it's probably something other than what you have pointed out. IOW, not how Free "Culture" is, but how Free the Members within a Society are due to their Culture.
To put it another way, It is a measure of Freedom within a Society. The term "Cultural Freedom" can be broken down like this: Culture = all that encompasses a Society; Freedom =Freedom
; so "Cultural Freedom" = the totality of all that makes a Society and how that totality affects the Freedom of the members of that Society.err, something like that.
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Yeah, this report seems bogus to me. Japan is one of the most homogenous nations on the planet. I think about 98% of the population is Japanese, because they don't let anyone immigrate.
On the other hand the U.S. has just about every ethnicity on the planet.
Well the subtitle is "Cultural liberty in today's diverse world." I'd think that by using "diverse", they're trying to talk about how countries are multicultural. By just reading that subtitle alone, I would think it's about the freedom to have your own culture in a society and the acceptance of that belief. If that were the case, Canada & the US would be #1 & #2 and then there should be a big gap after them.
Japan has an indigenous minority, the Ainu, referred to as "The Hairy Ainu." They also consider Okinawans to be inferior. They also have the remnants of a caste system that stiill gives some Japanese problems.
The title didn't affect any of the individual rankings, I don't think it would affect the overall rankings. They probably pick one pet issue every year and write about how the rankings and statistics reflect on that topic.
When they were referring to cultural freedom, they particularly focused on multi-culturalism.
This would be a plus for Canada, seeing as most of our regulations are there to preserve a place for culture that might be overwhelmed by the mass media, such as minimum Canadian content on the radio and in magazines, and Quebec's French language laws.
If these laws do have an effect on our overall culture, it would be to keep Canada from being even more American than it already is. Their effect is most noticed up here by what plays on the radio, and it seems to have an effect, seeing how many of our musicians have success down in your country (BNL, Sarah McLaughlin, Avril Lavigne.) It also leads to many bands that are hugely successful up here, even though they don't make it anywhere else.
Compare that to TV, where the stations can fulfill most of their content requirements through news reporting, which would be Canadian-made anyway. Can you name a single Canadian TV program? I bet that most teens here couldn't. The closest I think we can get to good shows are a few hyper-intellectual media satires, or a few political comedy programs.
Part of the reason we dropped also is that our spending relative to GDP on education and health dropped during the deficit-cutting years. But that spending has largely been restored now. Also the state of our Native people influenced the results, but that hasn't really changed.
It will be awhile before we get the top spot again, 'cause the bloody Scandinavians found oil. So they have bigger social programs than us, with GDP per capita that rival the U.S. Bloody Vikings.
When they were referring to cultural freedom, they particularly focused on multi-culturalism.
This would be a plus for Canada, seeing as most of our regulations are there to preserve a place for culture that might be overwhelmed by the mass media, such as minimum Canadian content on the radio and in magazines, and Quebec's French language laws.
If these laws do have an effect on our overall culture, it would be to keep Canada from being even more American than it already is. Their effect is most noticed up here by what plays on the radio, and it seems to have an effect, seeing how many of our musicians have success down in your country (BNL, Sarah McLaughlin, Avril Lavigne.) It also leads to many bands that are hugely successful up here, even though they don't make it anywhere else.
Compare that to TV, where the stations can fulfill most of their content requirements through news reporting, which would be Canadian-made anyway. Can you name a single Canadian TV program? I bet that most teens here couldn't. The closest I think we can get to good shows are a few hyper-intellectual media satires, or a few political comedy programs.
Part of the reason we dropped also is that our spending relative to GDP on education and health dropped during the deficit-cutting years. But that spending has largely been restored now. Also the state of our Native people influenced the results, but that hasn't really changed.
It will be awhile before we get the top spot again, 'cause the bloody Scandinavians found oil. So they have bigger social programs than us, with GDP per capita that rival the U.S. Bloody Vikings.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Red Green, there are many more, but that one is well known on both sides of the Border. I'm not a Teen though and may have just mucked up your question! :Q
Yeah, that's about the only Canadian show I know of. I guess I fit into that minority of teens that can name a (one) Canadian TV program.
Must be a large negative for the Netherlands which has public stated that multiculturalism is a failure despite the success of the US and Canada with multiculturalism. They shouldn't be anywhere near the top 10 with that kind of attitude.
Canadian regulations can prevent multiculturalism also. This is pretty obvious when they reject international TV channels in Canada, such as recently with an Italian-based channel even though 100,000+ Italian-Canadians signed a petition for it.
sandorski
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Article 1
Article 2---same website, but different source--AP
Kibbo's "pet issue" suggestion seems supported by these links.
Article 2---same website, but different source--AP
Kibbo's "pet issue" suggestion seems supported by these links.
I would hardly call Belgium, a country where 82% of society has racist views, as a successful multicultural society.
Perhaps they lack something... like common sense. It's just too gross of an error to take lightly. Just like forgetting that the Netherlands has officially declared multiculturalism a failure.
I find your way of thinking interesting... it's against the basic idea of a message board where you discuss issues. It's pretty silly to say things like "go do something about it instead of whining", "go write a report on it", etc.
You can't be serious.
Perhaps you should research and write a report about their declaration and why it matters.
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If you feel every country in the top ten doesnt belong there....what countries in your opinion are the best (as the top ones are flawed...including the US by your reasoning...)
I would truely make the arguement that the US is too high on the list to be honest...but not to take away from the "Can 'o' Worms Real Human Development Index"
I'm interested to see this thourough research and information...as the UN's is bunk according to you...
I would truely make the arguement that the US is too high on the list to be honest...but not to take away from the "Can 'o' Worms Real Human Development Index"
I'm interested to see this thourough research and information...as the UN's is bunk according to you...
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