Huge Bit Torrent Site Shutdowns Suprnova.org, torrentbits.org, kerrazy-torrents.com ALL DOWN!

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Insomniak
There comes a point when knowledge and permission of crime must be considered a crime itself if the system is to deter the action. This is why people who witness a murder and do not inform the authorities are accomplices. It is called aiding and abetting.

Uhm, so things like VCRs, knives, and automobiles, should be illegal in and of themselves?

Actions require intent. If someone performs a criminal action with a tool, then they are guilty of the crime. Not their tool. Guns don't kill people, fatty fast food, cigarettes, and lack of exercise kills people. At least in America.

Originally posted by: Insomniak
The reason it hasn't been applied to the internet yet (and probably never will be, at least not fully) is because the web's international institution status

"internation institution status"? I'm as of yet unaware of that official legal designation. Can you provide more background info on that?

Originally posted by: InsomniakAnyway, I'm not really making a point here, just thinking out loud. Lemme know if this caused any synapses in the ole brain.

:beer: :beer: :beer:

How are ye old synapses feeling now?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
DVD-Burners don't say "Copy games from friends for free!!" but most torrent sites had "Click here to download this game".

A lot of broadband ISPs make oblique references to "download games, music and movies faster". Just an interesting point to note.

 

[Nothinman]

A lot of broadband ISPs make oblique references to "download games, music and movies faster". Just an interesting point to note.

Which could mean game demos, music stores like Apple and movie trailors. But I do believe they should be more clear.

 

[MBony]

kerrazy seems to work fine for me...

 

[Childs]

I'm shocked that tvtorrents is gone. All they did was current tv shows, and it was just about the only thing I downloaded with bittorrent these days. For some shows, this is the only way they can find an audience when they are opposite worthless crap like Survivor.

 

[Nothinman]

TVTorrents isn't gone, they just moved domains because of issues totally unrelated to the MPAA.

 

[blazer78]

Originally posted by: malak
Oh darn guess you have to buy your software now.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I can max out download speeds at places like fileplanet and fileshack, bittorrent has never done that for me. Bittorrent is ALWAYS slower than anything else.

You've got something misconfigured then, BT easily saturates my downstream on most torrents.

Not only that but you don't have to wait in line for 45 minutes to begin downloading.

A patch for a MOD was released today.
I had to wait in line at FP for 8 minutes (not too long), then I got 20kb/s download speeds for the entire 40MB file.
I had just finished dling some torrents, which were running at my max connection speed.
BT > FP
If the mod patch had been released via Bittorrent, I would have gladly used that in preference, because Fileplanet sucks.

 

[Weeeman]

Im pretty sure elitetorrents just hit the schitter now too.

 

[Wuzup101]

Oh well... isohunt is still up Anyway, I also enjoy using torrents... but my university does have crazy fast lines so either way i'm getting hundreds of kbps...

 

[Beau]

just waiting for torrentreactor.net to go down now

 

[SelArom]

Originally posted by: AnyMal
Good riddance. Fvck the pirates.

yeah i'm sure this is the end of piracy :roll:

shutting down these sites isn't going to do sh!t to stop people from trading files. Another form of trading will just be invented, and 10 years later they'll try to stop it again, and fail, again.

 

[BonerDoner]

Isohunt is basically down. They haven't updated in a few days, slyck news said that they have recieved a "cease and dissist" letter, and all of the trackers they search are down. Phoenix torrents is also down. Tvtorrents is back, but these are undoubtedly dark times for p2p mavens.

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Uhm, so things like VCRs, knives, and automobiles, should be illegal in and of themselves?

Actions require intent. If someone performs a criminal action with a tool, then they are guilty of the crime. Not their tool. Guns don't kill people, fatty fast food, cigarettes, and lack of exercise kills people. At least in America.

Did you read the rest of that post? Try running through it again. I get to that exact point in there.

Besides, the portion you quoted had to do with aiding and abetting actions on the part of a human being - completely unrelated to what you were talking about. Could you elaborate? I'm afraid I'm not clear on your point here.

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
"international institution status"? I'm as of yet unaware of that official legal designation. Can you provide more background info on that?

That's exactly my point. The internet is kind of like International Waters...(nearly) anything goes, and no single body holds any true governance over it.

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
How are ye old synapses feeling now?

Always firing, always firing.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I can max out download speeds at places like fileplanet and fileshack, bittorrent has never done that for me. Bittorrent is ALWAYS slower than anything else.

You've got something misconfigured then, BT easily saturates my downstream on most torrents.

Not only that but you don't have to wait in line for 45 minutes to begin downloading.

I never wait in line. And I've never seen a single torrent ever max out my downstream, I cap at like 350k/s. The most I've gotten is maybe 30k/s on a torrent. Maybe my software sucks, but from what I see there's just not enough upload to share. My upstream is only 30k/s.

 

[RealityTime]

Originally posted by: malak

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I can max out download speeds at places like fileplanet and fileshack, bittorrent has never done that for me. Bittorrent is ALWAYS slower than anything else.

You've got something misconfigured then, BT easily saturates my downstream on most torrents.

Not only that but you don't have to wait in line for 45 minutes to begin downloading.

I never wait in line. And I've never seen a single torrent ever max out my downstream, I cap at like 350k/s. The most I've gotten is maybe 30k/s on a torrent. Maybe my software sucks, but from what I see there's just not enough upload to share. My upstream is only 30k/s.

It is SO, SO important to forward the ports for udp & tcp that you use for bit torrent, as well as open those ports for udp & tcp through your software firewall if you run one.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: SelArom

Originally posted by: AnyMal
Good riddance. Fvck the pirates.

yeah i'm sure this is the end of piracy :roll:

shutting down these sites isn't going to do sh!t to stop people from trading files. Another form of trading will just be invented, and 10 years later they'll try to stop it again, and fail, again.

They know they'll never get rid of the 20% who are really determined and who know what they're doing, their goal is to get rid of the 80% who don't know anything other than that setup.exe usually installs a program. USENET piracy has been around way longer than most people have even been on the Internet, but they haven't bothered to do anything about it because it's less accessible to the average Joe. The kind of people who use USENET are the kind of people who can easily find another way to pirate. Windows activation is another example of this - it won't stop anyone who is determined to pirate XP, but it will stop the guy who wants to install it on all 4 of his computers, or lend it to his neighbor.

They also want to educate people that piracy is illegal and it does have consequences. The RIAA filing hundreds of lawsuits and settling them for probably less than their own legal fees is one way to do that. Product activation is another way to educate people that you are only allowed to install software on as many computers as you have licenses for.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: malak

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I can max out download speeds at places like fileplanet and fileshack, bittorrent has never done that for me. Bittorrent is ALWAYS slower than anything else.

You've got something misconfigured then, BT easily saturates my downstream on most torrents.

Not only that but you don't have to wait in line for 45 minutes to begin downloading.

I never wait in line. And I've never seen a single torrent ever max out my downstream, I cap at like 350k/s. The most I've gotten is maybe 30k/s on a torrent. Maybe my software sucks, but from what I see there's just not enough upload to share. My upstream is only 30k/s.

Do you have a firewall ? If so that could be the issue right there. Bit-Torrent and firewalls are not good bed fellows without some tweaking invovled.

 

[Nothinman]

And I've never seen a single torrent ever max out my downstream, I cap at like 350k/s. The most I've gotten is maybe 30k/s on a torrent

I downloaded 2 yesterday on a friend's cable and maxed his out at ~250K/s, my cap is similar to yours so I get a little more out of mine. You've either not configured your firewall properly or you're saturating your upstream, cap it at 15-20K/s and you'll do much better.

 

[racefan]

Supernova is there if you look but it is not free any more. It is 19.99 for 1 year or 39.99 for lifetime membership as I just looked for a friend and saw this thread.
http://www.suprnova.com/join2.php?from=join1&

 

[Cawchy87]

suprnova.com has always been scamming people.

suprnova.org is the real one.

 

[racefan]

My bad but can you access the torrents after paying the 19.99? at the .com


No it is .org that is now charging a fee

http://supernova.org/

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

And I've never seen a single torrent ever max out my downstream, I cap at like 350k/s. The most I've gotten is maybe 30k/s on a torrent

I downloaded 2 yesterday on a friend's cable and maxed his out at ~250K/s, my cap is similar to yours so I get a little more out of mine. You've either not configured your firewall properly or you're saturating your upstream, cap it at 15-20K/s and you'll do much better.

I've had plenty of torrents max out my connection going both ways. Before I properly configured my firewall I was doing 60Kb/s max. After that I was getting the full 3Mb/s downloads that I can get sometimes.

Don't ever forget though that there are perfectly legit reasons to use Bittorrent. It was originally developed for distributing Linux cds.

And there are legal sites.
http://www.legaltorrents.com/
http://torrentocracy.com/torrents/
http://www.filesoup.com
http://bt.etree.org

And many many others.

 

[Nothinman]

No it is .org that is now charging a fee

Might help if you spell it right.

 

[racefan]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

No it is .org that is now charging a fee

Might help if you spell it right.

Guess what it is .org at the end and not .com so it is spelled right