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Huffpost - democrats might take both houses in 2014

Texashiker

Texashiker

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I do not care of huffington post liberal agenda. But in this case I am concerned they might be right.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/06/gop-house-2014-polls_n_4050686.html

No opposition to raising the debt ceiling.
No opposition to amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants.
No opposition to the liberal democrat social positions.

One thing that concerns me is how a democrat controlled congress could ramrod radical gun control legislation through congress.
 
No opposition to raising the debt ceiling. Like Reagan?

No opposition to amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. Again like Reagan?

No opposition to the liberal democrat social positions. And what would those be?
 
Jimzz said:
No opposition to raising the debt ceiling. Like Reagan?

No opposition to amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. Again like Reagan?

No opposition to the liberal democrat social positions. And what would those be?
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Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice...
 
The liberal-leaning Public Policy Polling compiled two dozen surveys, commissioned and paid for by MoveOn.org Political Action, from House districts around the country, taken from Oct. 2 through Oct. 4. Sample sizes were between 600 and 700 voters in each district.
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I'd probably wait for a few more data points before worrying OP.
 
WelshBloke said:
I'd probably wait for a few more data points before worrying OP.
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I agree. The real issue here is not that PPP would do bad polling, it's that MoveOn likely selected districts that were likely to show Democratic pickups.

Overall there's been significant movement in the generic congressional ballot that suggests Republicans may be in danger of losing the House, but due to geography and gerrymandering the Democrats need to win the popular vote by about 8 percentage points just to end up with a tiny majority.

Not to mention that the election is about a year away. A lot can change by then.
 
Texashiker said:
I do not care of huffington post liberal agenda. But in this case I am concerned they might be right.
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Of course they might be right. They may also be wrong and Democrats could lose both houses. At this stage, any poll you could take about an election over 12 months away has very limited reliability. If more polls over time continue to show a clear trendline (especially the closer we get to the election date), then this will be reason for concern or optimism depending on which side you support.
 
2014 is still next year. The GOP is a mess, there is no leadership. Party members hate each other as much as they hate Obama.
 
This is what happens when the opposition is full of fucking imbeciles. The country isn't made better by a single de facto party, when the other is completely leaderless and/or its leaders are cretins. If you weren't convinced the GOP was inept before the last presidential election, you were after.
 
Gerrymandering will likely keep repubs safe to an extent they don't deserve/haven't earned.

Republican politicians stubbornness to change of anything is gonna dry up the party. Obamas answers may smell sweet to some and stink to others, but at least he is pushing a bit on the status quo.
 
Dems aren't taking the House in '14, ain't happening. They could pick up half that amount, say 8 or 9, and that would surprise no one. They're much more likely to do it in 2016, when demographics have more time to work in Dems' favor and Obamacare is clearly much more successful, leaving Repubs nothing to run on. Presidential elections tend to have the high tide lifts all boats effect, so to speak, so unless Christie runs and runs well, Repubs will be thumped by the Clintons again, given conservative's complete lack of alternatives.
 
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Texashiker said:
I do not care of huffington post liberal agenda. But in this case I am concerned they might be right.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/06/gop-house-2014-polls_n_4050686.html

No opposition to raising the debt ceiling.
No opposition to amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants.
No opposition to the liberal democrat social positions.

One thing that concerns me is how a democrat controlled congress could ramrod radical gun control legislation through congress.
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the demos aren't monolithic. and the debt ceiling always gets raised. the dollar value of the debt is never going down by a significant amount year over year.
 
eskimospy said:
I agree. The real issue here is not that PPP would do bad polling, it's that MoveOn likely selected districts that were likely to show Democratic pickups.

Overall there's been significant movement in the generic congressional ballot that suggests Republicans may be in danger of losing the House, but due to geography and gerrymandering the Democrats need to win the popular vote by about 8 percentage points just to end up with a tiny majority.

Not to mention that the election is about a year away. A lot can change by then.
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I think we can expect the Teahadists to keep up with the same shit, same threats, same extortion, same petulant whines, same posturing, which gives all Repubs a bad name other than with their radical base. Repubs are shedding swing voters as if they don't need 'em.
 
Jhhnn said:
I think we can expect the Teahadists to keep up with the same shit, same threats, same extortion, same petulant whines, same posturing, which gives all Repubs a bad name other than with their radical base. Repubs are shedding swing voters as if they don't need 'em.
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Gotta love liberal double standards. Radical Islamists aren't engaged in Jihad but the Tea Party are jihadists when they have never killed anyone.
 
Incorruptible said:
Gotta love liberal double standards. Radical Islamists aren't engaged in Jihad but the Tea Party are jihadists when they have never killed anyone.
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Gotta love the conservative double standards. Liberals are all socialists for progressive taxation, but the closest model to their regressive flat taxation is Russia...
 
I think one party control all three houses is bad, with that being said, I'd rather have 1 crazy party control all three than have a insane party control one. Honestly look at the damage they have done...
 
Jimzz said:
No opposition to raising the debt ceiling. Like Reagan?

No opposition to amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. Again like Reagan?

No opposition to the liberal democrat social positions. And what would those be?
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Reagan tripled the debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which was bad.... but I would say going from $700 Billion to $2 trillion is small fries compared to going from $10 trillion to probably $20 trillion by 2016. Even counting for the Iraq war and inflation.

And with immigration everyone thought and it was sold that this would be a one time thing and solve all the problems. And the 3 million illegals that got Amnesty is a much smaller number than the 20 million (and yes the flood gates are once again open) illegals now. So I imagine next time it will be around 40 million... just enough time for other countries to stop buying our debt and the money tree wilters and dies.

Maybe having the dems have both houses won't be a bad thing. The people who went through the depression learned to waste not want not and other cliches. After two more years of the dems running things the American people will be beaten to their senses and things will slowly improve.
 
TheSiege said:
I think one party control all three houses is bad, with that being said, I'd rather have 1 crazy party control all three than have a insane party control one. Honestly look at the damage they have done...
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I think the honesty you request is lacking in those very insane. If they were honest they wouldn't be insane and would see.
 
Texashiker said:
I do not care of huffington post liberal agenda. But in this case I am concerned they might be right.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/06/gop-house-2014-polls_n_4050686.html

No opposition to raising the debt ceiling.
No opposition to amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants.
No opposition to the liberal democrat social positions.

One thing that concerns me is how a democrat controlled congress could ramrod radical gun control legislation through congress.
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The latest GOP led shutting down the Federal Government and the effort to push it to default has guaranteed that the Democrats will retain control of the Senate, 2014 and 2016, and White House in 2016. But I doubt the Democrats will pick up enough seats for a Senate supermajority or control of the House.

But if the GOP, Ted Cruz et al, shuts down the government and allows the it to default next year the Democrats will get a Senate supermajority and control of the House.

BTW:
Not raising the debt ceiling will cause the country to go into default. Is that what you want to do?

What do you think should be done about the immigrant situation?

What are the "liberal democrat social positions"?

No one, no one is taking anyone's guns away.

The take home lesson for the GOP is that the majority of US citizens want the government to work. If the Republicans shut down the Federal government they will lose their jobs. I suspect that the GOP will pay for their obstructionist activities too.
 
Pretty sure it's impossible for them to take the house in 2014. Gerrymandering has them fully protected. As stupid as the GOP has been I think they would have to advocate apartheid and fascism to lose.
 
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