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HR 1 urgently needs to pass through filibuster

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HomerJS said:
Fine, let Mitch just stand and talk until he pisses his pants or clutches his chest and collapses
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An obstructionist turtle that's resigning because he's about to be primaried by his own party (because he's not radical enough).
We should definitely listen to this guy.
 
Can't H.R.1 be placed into affect by reconciliation, rather than it going for a vote that has the risk of a filibuster?
 
HomerJS said:
Reconsiliation has to be budget related. This doesn't fit.
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Doesn't opening more polling sites, maintaining an online voting site, more voting machines, and etc. that the bill requires involves the states spending more money. More money means a possibility of more funding from the federal government? I think that does make it eligible for reconciliation, to expand the funding that states receive so they are able to comply with the new rules.
 
Amol S. said:
Doesn't opening more polling sites, maintaining an online voting site, more voting machines, and etc. that the bill requires involves the states spending more money. More money means a possibility of more funding from the federal government? I think that does make it eligible for reconciliation, to expand the funding that states receive so they are able to comply with the new rules.
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With reconciliation, you get one spending bill and one tax bill per year. They already had their spending bill this year. They'd have to do that next year. But I also think the parliamentarian would rule against it.
 
woolfe9998 said:
With reconciliation, you get one spending bill and one tax bill per year. They already had their spending bill this year. They'd have to do that next year. But I also think the parliamentarian would rule against it.
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Next year is October 1, 2021 (just over 6 months away). in the world of politics and business. (Fiscal year is Oct. 1 to sept 30.)
 
Yes.Do it.Do it.Do it.Do it.Do it.Do it.Do it.

For fucks sake Mitch ... you spawned god damn TRUMP ... you thought that wouldnt give a lil blowback? Join a Mormon church if you want to life in the past or flee to Russia if mafia states is your thing...

www.foxnews.com

McConnell says Dems trying to use power to help 'win elections in perpetuity' with HR1, DC statehood

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in a podcast released Tuesday said Democrats are trying to use the levers of power to give them a long-term political advantage despite the fact they hold the slimmest of majorities in both the House and Senate.
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D holdouts on filibuster reform/elimination steadily dropping away.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1374707130796814342

But this argument is sustainable only if the extraordinary power of the 60-vote threshold is used sparingly on major issues or is used in a good-faith effort to leverage concessions rather than to simply obstruct. If, however, the minority hangs together and regularly uses this power to block any and all initiatives of the majority (and their president), supporting the continuation of the rule becomes harder and harder to justify, regardless of the long-term consequences.

I should mention that I believe voting rights are a special case that we must address in light of the nakedly partisan voter-suppression legislation pending in many states. All-out opposition to reasonable voting rights protections cannot be enabled by the filibuster; if forced to choose between a Senate rule and democracy itself, I know where I will come down. As new Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock (D) noted on the floor recently, “It is a contradiction to say we must protect minority rights in the Senate, while refusing to protect minority rights in the society.”
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Great news. The GQP can take their Kentucky veto and pound it.

America being free of turtle tyranny and regressive republican obstruction is imperative for it's long term health.

Keep that foot down on it Joe. Serial liars prone to treason are going to cry, but oh fucking well.
 
There is a reason why no one wants to remove the filibuster. In the current distribution of the senate, removing filibuster would benefit the Democrats. Just what if the Republicans win the senate in 2022? Without the filibuster the Democrats would be at a total loss.
 
Amol S. said:
There is a reason why no one wants to remove the filibuster. In the current distribution of the senate, removing filibuster would benefit the Democrats. Just what if the Republicans win the senate in 2022? Without the filibuster the Democrats would be at a total loss.
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No.
 
NWRMidnight said:
Next year is October 1, 2021 (just over 6 months away). in the world of politics and business. (Fiscal year is Oct. 1 to sept 30.)
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Yeah no budget resolution was adopted for fiscal 2020 so the Dems get two bites at that apple this calendar year. We'll see a tax bill and likely a debt ceiling bill too under reconciliation this year. That last one I'd probably use to raise the debt ceiling to 75T or more just to stop all the fucking around with it that the GOP likes to do.
 
Amol S. said:
There is a reason why no one wants to remove the filibuster. In the current distribution of the senate, removing filibuster would benefit the Democrats. Just what if the Republicans win the senate in 2022? Without the filibuster the Democrats would be at a total loss.
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Maybe the best way to phrase this is removing the FB can get bills passed the people want. These just happen to be the policies of Democrats.
 
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HomerJS said:
Biden has the country on his side because if the Senate eliminates the fillibuster he's pushing through policies the country favors. It's the Republicans in DC who are stifling progress.
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The best republican response to this is that they'll do really unpopular things the country will hate them for should it be eliminated.

Also that it wasn't used heavily by incredible racists to preserve deeply unfair and harmful policies (very much it was).
 
Amol S. said:
There is a reason why no one wants to remove the filibuster. In the current distribution of the senate, removing filibuster would benefit the Democrats. Just what if the Republicans win the senate in 2022? Without the filibuster the Democrats would be at a total loss.
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That’s not even remotely true.
 
K1052 said:
The best republican response to this is that they'll do really unpopular things the country will hate them for should it be eliminated.

Also that it wasn't used heavily by incredible racists to preserve deeply unfair and harmful policies (very much it was).
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Remember when they had control of the Senate and tried to kill the ACA? They couldn't get 50 because people wanted to keep it.
 
fskimospy said:
That’s not even remotely true.
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I mean the Rs aren't going to win veto proof majorities lol.

The reverse argument is what if the Ds retained congress by passing enormously popular bills, smashing partisan gerrymandering, and adding a state all as a result of nuking the filibuster?
 
HomerJS said:
Remember when they had control of the Senate and tried to kill the ACA? They couldn't get 50 because people wanted to keep it.
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If there are legislative items that 50 Rs agree on besides judicial confirmations, tax cuts, and defense spending I have yet to see them even when they had a trifecta.
 
Amol S. said:
There is a reason why no one wants to remove the filibuster. In the current distribution of the senate, removing filibuster would benefit the Democrats. Just what if the Republicans win the senate in 2022? Without the filibuster the Democrats would be at a total loss.
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False on the first sentence, bravo *golf clap*
 
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