HPV vaccine may not be as safe as reported

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
They don't prevent it from happening but you as well as everyone else here has seen 1st hand how a growing majority of parents are becoming a more hands off type of parent. They don't parent by teaching their children, they parent by buying their kids stuff so the kid doesn't bother the parent.
There are 2 points the the issue with this vaccine.
1. It's a monopoly. Only one company makes it and amazingly many states are pushing fairly hard to get it mandated. A vaccine for an STD, required for 6th graders. Why not make it manditory for all school children from Kindergarten up, plus all the teachers have to have it because they come into contact with the school kids, and Some teachers have sex with the school kids, and some school kids are sexually abused by their parents/ family members so they all need to get it and look only one company makes it and can charge whatever they want. How convenient. Merck makes out like a bandit and so do the scum bag politicians that got paid off to get this approved.

It's a drug patent. That's how it works. A company shells out millions of dollars in R&D to develop a drug. The FDA approves it through a rigorous process that does a pretty good job of evaluating safety, and the company then has a limited time to market their product before another company can produce a generic version. They have every right to set their price point so long as we have a right not to buy it. For the record, there is another HPV vaccine undergoing clinical trials and other types of HPV vaccines being researched. It's not like the field is non-competitive.

2. 30% of the test subjects had adverse reactions. 30% is not a good risk to take with your child.

Please provide a source for this claim.

 

[3chordcharlie]

I'm glad there is an HPV vaccine. I think its use should probably be encouraged.

That being said, I think it's too soon to be forcing it on people.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: KoolAidKid
I honestly don't understand the furor over this. There are many vaccines required for attendance at a public school. What's one more?

Once you inject something like that, you can't un-inject it.

The push for mandatory vaccination at this stage has to be coming from bean-counters; I can tell you as someone somewhat familiar with the vaccine industry, and with the incredible sense of responsibility that people in this industry feel towards their clients, that it's coming from 'corporate' interests, with a possible side-order of folks so obsessed with this one disease that they don't see the big picture.

Most of the people injected with vaccines are too young to consent to the procedure themselves. For someone creating these products, if this doesn't place an incredible weight and realization of how important your job is, nothing will.

 

[newmachineoverlord]

Originally posted by: Amused
Just a heads up, but the National Vaccine Information Center is a group who opposes all vaccines and supports just about every conspiracy theory out there regarding them.

They are nutballs.

QFT.

Hopefully after this vaccine becomes mandatory everywhere then birth control pills will finally become over the counter in the US, like they are most places.

Making birth control over the counter would reduce the number of annual abortions by an estimated 219 thousand, and save consumers over 2 billion dollars per year. There is absolutely no medical justification for birth control pills not being over the counter while tylenol, a potent liver toxin, does not require a prescription. http://www.iwpr.org/pdf/otc0201.pdf


As for the number of people involved in trials prior to approval, that's still more people than were involved in the clinical trials leading to the approval of aspartame (which only causes cancer in doses higher than the doses used in said trials.)

 

[aidanjm]

aren't there similar problems with other "compulsory" vaccines? most people take a vaccine and they are fine, but a small number of people have terrible adverse reactions that leave them dead or mentally retarded. but the risk of adverse reaction is typically much lower than the risk of getting the illness you are vaccinating against (and the adverse consequences associated with the illness)

 

[AnMig]

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5602a1.htm?s_cid=rr5602a1_e


lots of information about HPV clinical trial/justification for implementation found on this link.

Feel free to scroll down on the adverse/side effects section. It appears very minimal and very similar to other routine vacinations.

"10 persons in the group that received quadrivalent HPV vaccine and seven persons in the placebo group died during the course of the trials. " Mostly from MVA, suicide non vaccine related.

Huge study

11,000 -hpv group
7,000-placebo group.