Some people over at Hard forum are supposed to get the monitor this morning. Hopefully they can give us an early review on it: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1491561&page=18
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Some unboxing pics from the [H] thread. I'm *really* looking forward to in depth reviews for this monitor. Eventually some sales will come along and bring the price back into the 3 hundreds, which would be amazing.
The photographer notes that diming on the edges is due to his camera, not the panel.
He is able to notice input lag, so it may have an issue there. Otherwise, looks like a nice monitor. If the input lag isn't that bad, I will get it anyway. I hate dealing with Dell Customer Support, so if all things are equal I would rather buy an HP product than a Dell.
He also said it could be his wireless mouse as he saw the same lag on his laptop.
Looks like it could be a solid buy, but I already laid out for the Dells. Got tired of waiting.
GTaudiophile
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chris_n mentions a minor Screen Door effect and a green tint to his monitor, but both seem like minor complaints. This monitor is looking more and more like the one I will get.
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mine is on UPS truck for delivery today. It's gonna be a long day at work!
Has anyone seen a "professional" review yet? I haven't come across any.
Has anyone seen a "professional" review yet? I haven't come across any.
I don't see that on mine... It is very close to the U2410's we have at work they just don't have the card readers. The two things I like about this over the 2410 is the brushed metal and the AG is not as thick/strong.
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FedEx dropped mine off a bit ago. It'll be another hour or so before I can dink with it. May get some time after 5 and fiddle with it at work, if not, will have to be when I get home 
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GTaudiophile
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BrunoPuntzJones
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Well a late reply. I didn't get to fiddle with it but for about 20 minutes.
No dead/stuck pixels out of the box.
Excellent uniformity, no banding noticeable on any color. Very high field of view and no color shifting. So really pleased in this area.
Can disable the LED on the power button, very handy. Buttons are touch on the front, rather than on the bottom, huge plus for me due to how my arm mounts.
No perceptible screen door effect and low graininess.
Came with a lot of cables. Not a big deal to me, but nice they were included.
I'm in my 30s now, and I'm not as quick as I once was, but I personally noticed zero input lag. I played about 20 seconds of TF2 and some Peggle...Honestly didn't have time to do anything else other than make sure it was fine in an FPS. No ghosting in any of the quick tests I ran.
But note, my eyes and reflexes ain't what they used to be, YMMV.
Complaints:
Note, what follows is based on OOTB settings with the brightness turned down some. I've done zero changes, and my observations may change once more properly calibrated.
Considerably more backlight bleed than I was hoping for. I'm probably more picky about this than other folks. Tended to be higher on the left side as well. Not a deal breaker, just not as low as I'd hoped. Only noticeable on a blank screesaver, or during color gradient tests where the dark portion starts on the left.
Slightly dark corners on a solid white screen. Only other fault I could really find.
If this were reviewed in something like Maximum PC at a $400-$425 price point, it would probably be a 9 or a 10. Maybe a point lower at $500.
It won't match a high end NEC or Ezio of course, but it is a bargain for a prosumer or production workstation. I would rate it a 7, but keep in mind 99% of LCDs I would rate a 3 or 4 at best. With Ezio or NEC rating 9s.
No U2410 to compare it to.
The only other monitor I would consider replacing this with would be the Apple 27" Cinema when it comes out in a few months (maybe) and if it comes in under $1,000. Otherwise, don't see me replacing this.
No dead/stuck pixels out of the box.
Excellent uniformity, no banding noticeable on any color. Very high field of view and no color shifting. So really pleased in this area.
Can disable the LED on the power button, very handy. Buttons are touch on the front, rather than on the bottom, huge plus for me due to how my arm mounts.
No perceptible screen door effect and low graininess.
Came with a lot of cables. Not a big deal to me, but nice they were included.
I'm in my 30s now, and I'm not as quick as I once was, but I personally noticed zero input lag. I played about 20 seconds of TF2 and some Peggle...Honestly didn't have time to do anything else other than make sure it was fine in an FPS. No ghosting in any of the quick tests I ran.
But note, my eyes and reflexes ain't what they used to be, YMMV.
Complaints:
Note, what follows is based on OOTB settings with the brightness turned down some. I've done zero changes, and my observations may change once more properly calibrated.
Considerably more backlight bleed than I was hoping for. I'm probably more picky about this than other folks. Tended to be higher on the left side as well. Not a deal breaker, just not as low as I'd hoped. Only noticeable on a blank screesaver, or during color gradient tests where the dark portion starts on the left.
Slightly dark corners on a solid white screen. Only other fault I could really find.
If this were reviewed in something like Maximum PC at a $400-$425 price point, it would probably be a 9 or a 10. Maybe a point lower at $500.
It won't match a high end NEC or Ezio of course, but it is a bargain for a prosumer or production workstation. I would rate it a 7, but keep in mind 99% of LCDs I would rate a 3 or 4 at best. With Ezio or NEC rating 9s.
No U2410 to compare it to.
The only other monitor I would consider replacing this with would be the Apple 27" Cinema when it comes out in a few months (maybe) and if it comes in under $1,000. Otherwise, don't see me replacing this.
My new HP ZR24W arrived this morning. As soon as I assembled it, I realized that I had made an expensive mistake. The height range is adjustable from "way too high" to "insanely too high". I'm guessing that the minimum height was based upon the pivot feature, which is not of interest to me.
An hour and a half later, and my neck already hurts. Damn! I may have to buy a monitor arm, which more than wipes out the price advantage over the Dell U2410.
If you can get by this problem, the image is excellent. Appreciably better than my older 19" Samsung IPS.
An hour and a half later, and my neck already hurts. Damn! I may have to buy a monitor arm, which more than wipes out the price advantage over the Dell U2410.
If you can get by this problem, the image is excellent. Appreciably better than my older 19" Samsung IPS.
$20 at Monoprice. At this price everyone should have one.
(note: the 540X arms require *at least* 1" of desk thickness (and can be adjusted to >2"), while the 64XX arms require *no more* than 1.5" of desk thickness)
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The ergonomic standards call for the center of the monitor to be about 30 - 35 degrees below a horizontal line at eye level. That way, your head is in a natural position and you don't have to hold it tilted backwards, which is pretty much guaranteed to cause neck strain.
If I were 6' 9" tall, the ZR24W height might be OK. But since I'm only 5' 10", the bottom of the monitor screen really should be less than 2" above the top of my computer table. It's really a bit over 4". My old Samsung would go down so that the monitor frame was less than a inch above the top of the computer desk.
Even with my chair raised to the point where my legs are pressing the underside of the computer desk, I can't get there.
If you are not using a computer desk, which is lower than a regular desk, it gets worse.
Shame, the monitor has a very sharp image.
I'll check at Monoprice. As it happens, they are less than 20 miles from here.
If I were 6' 9" tall, the ZR24W height might be OK. But since I'm only 5' 10", the bottom of the monitor screen really should be less than 2" above the top of my computer table. It's really a bit over 4". My old Samsung would go down so that the monitor frame was less than a inch above the top of the computer desk.
Even with my chair raised to the point where my legs are pressing the underside of the computer desk, I can't get there.
If you are not using a computer desk, which is lower than a regular desk, it gets worse.
Shame, the monitor has a very sharp image.
I'll check at Monoprice. As it happens, they are less than 20 miles from here.
What do you want to compare?
No offense but it's a cheaper, standard-gamut, entry-level S-IPS panel versus wide-gamut, psuedo-10-bit, mid-tiered H-IPS one in the U2410 - and that's just the panel, there plenty of I/O and extra features in the U2410.
Since U2410 (after calibration) is one of the best screens out there, competing with 3x more expensive high-end ones there's little space for comparison here...
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What about the U2410's tint problems and awful anti-glare coating? The ZR24w doesn't have those issues.
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What do you want to compare?
No offense but it's a cheaper, standard-gamut, entry-level S-IPS panel versus wide-gamut, psuedo-10-bit, mid-tiered H-IPS one in the U2410 - and that's just the panel, there plenty of I/O and extra features in the U2410.
Since U2410 (after calibration) is one of the best screens out there, competing with 3x more expensive high-end ones there's little space for comparison here...
So you obviously favor the U2410 for a little extra money?
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