HP Hexa Core CPU

[Maximilian]

From HP's website, calling the A8-6410 a hexa-core: http://h20386.www2.hp.com/CanadaStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=J9M62UA&opt=ABL&sel=PCNB

Wtf is up with HP URL's... why are they always such a mess?

 

[frozentundra123456]

In addition to the I will generously call it "deceptive" advertising, those prices for all the units are outrageous. I have seem atom laptops, not that I would buy one, at 200.00 or slightly above.

 

[ph2000]

the model seems equipped with R7-M260 (6 cu)
but still a bit steep price

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Because its misleading and illegal. The issue begins when you say a CPU core is the same as a STEAM or CUDA core. Or a compute unit for that matter. Individually you can more or less call them what you want.

Misleading poster gets mad at misleading advertising. News at 11!

 

[Spungo]

Wtf is up with HP URL's... why are they always such a mess?

The URL matches the part number. That seems fairly logical.

 

[creed3020]

This thread came in handy today as I too was browsing a Future Shop catalog just last night and was totally confused by the "HP Hexa Core" sticker stickered all over the page on various laptops. It was a WTF moment but sure looks like a marketing move to hide AMD chips.

 

[Rakehellion]

I remember AMD saying at the time of the current gen console launches that part of their strategy to get more companies using AMD tech is to no longer require any AMD branding of said tech.

I guess it's spreading to PCs now too.

D: D: D:

I hate to see how this pans out.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

HP did make their own CPUs before they switched to Itanium.

They used to make a lot more than just CPUs. If you go back far enough HP was an excellent manufacturer and researcher of scientific equipment, that is until they grew tired of doing awesome stuff like maintaining a journal and you know, science stuff, then spun all that off and formed Agilent Technologies (who recently divided themselves up as well).

 

[lamedude]

You can still find former HP engineers opine about the HP way before Carly Fiorina took over.

 

[Maximilian]

The URL matches the part number. That seems fairly logical.

I mean all this crap

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/

Ive never seen any other website like that.

 

[Dahak]

Hp web address have always been a mess so has their store pages and even the partner and service provider page are horrible

 

[84Shadow500]

I recently purchased a Pavillion with the Hexa Crap processor. 0/10, would not buy again. I was looking for a relatively inexpensive laptop for school with hardware that would remain relevant when next gen software with multi-threading becomes common. I'm not the most tech savvy computer user and so relied mainly on the listed manufacturer specs to make my decision. While this laptop technically does everything I need it to do, it doesn't do what I wanted it to and is certainly not what I paid for. Every hardware detection program I've run identifies the processor as a 2 GHz quad-core. Mind explaining that one HP? Anyone know if a class action has been filed or is in the works? This machine was advertised as something that it is clearly not and that blatant LIE is what lead me to purchase it. Buddy at Future Shop was more than eager to part with this piece of shit. I am NEVER buying from HP again.

 

[84Shadow500]

The absolute worst part is that, as has been pointed out above, it was priced in competition with Intel i-5 machines and I was told it's performance was competitive with Intel processors. Pure misdirection and misinformation (LIES!!!) that lead to me to purchase this piece of e-waste. I hate to rant but I am absolutely livid. How in the hell can they get away with this shit? AMD has also permanently lost my business for allowing their integrated GPUs to be called processor cores. I'm happy with the Radeon graphics, its the LIES that bother me.

 

[monstercameron]

The absolute worst part is that, as has been pointed out above, it was priced in competition with Intel i-5 machines and I was told it's performance was competitive with Intel processors. Pure misdirection and misinformation (LIES!!!) that lead to me to purchase this piece of e-waste. I hate to rant but I am absolutely livid. How in the hell can they get away with this shit? AMD has also permanently lost my business for allowing their integrated GPUs to be called processor cores. I'm happy with the Radeon graphics, its the LIES that bother me.

why are you angry? [use logic]

 

[Maxima1]

The absolute worst part is that, as has been pointed out above, it was priced in competition with Intel i-5 machines and I was told it's performance was competitive with Intel processors. Pure misdirection and misinformation (LIES!!!) that lead to me to purchase this piece of e-waste. I hate to rant but I am absolutely livid. How in the hell can they get away with this shit? AMD has also permanently lost my business for allowing their integrated GPUs to be called processor cores. I'm happy with the Radeon graphics, its the LIES that bother me.

Why would you think they're selling a six core? Almost all laptop models have only Intel ULV which are at most just dual cores with hyperthreading. Even the i7. So AMD quads are at least competitive in multithreading. It's so easy to do the homework.

 

[Deontologist]

It's 6 cores only if you use applications that can also take advantage of the GPU. So far there's a small list of applications which can take advantage of the GPU. Look at any AT review of a recent AMD APU to see what this list is. In general, utilizing the GPU in certain applications can put AMD processors at a level competitive with Intel.

 

[84Shadow500]

On a side note, anyone know if it is possible to overclock this CPU when using this model configuration: HP Pavilion Notebook - 15-p164ca? I'm kind of stuck with this thing now. Might as well milk it, right?

 

[84Shadow500]

It's 6 cores only if you use applications that can also take advantage of the GPU. So far there's a small list of applications which can take advantage of the GPU. Look at any AT review of a recent AMD APU to see what this list is. In general, utilizing the GPU in certain applications can put AMD processors at a level competitive with Intel.

That would be fine...if they had marketed it like that. If it is only comparable to an i-5 when running a limited list of applications than it isn't over all comparable to an i-5 which performs that well all the time.

 

[Maxima1]

On a side note, anyone know if it is possible to overclock this CPU when using this model configuration: HP Pavilion Notebook - 15-p164ca?

You should be able to peg your laptop to a higher state within the specs. I do that with my laptop.

I'm kind of stuck with this thing now. Might as well milk it, right?

Not necessarily.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-18-Core...pt=Video_Games&hash=item3cef93a907&rmvSB=true

 

[84Shadow500]

But thank you Deontologist, I will certainly check out that list. While we're on the topic of performance, how exactly do I get the most out of this machine? I'm not even really sure what I'm working with anymore or how it is best utilized.

 

[84Shadow500]

You should be able to peg your laptop to a higher state within the specs. I do that with my laptop.

Not necessarily.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-18-Core...pt=Video_Games&hash=item3cef93a907&rmvSB=true

Followed the link...last edit of this comment was based purely on seeing "e-bay" hahaha. I could go for a STeamBox after I grad maybe. Looks like it can handle just about anything with power to spare, might wait for the price to drop a tad though.

 

[edwd2]

Saw one of these at Best Buy today, I was like wtf, the system information in win8.1 just displays HP Hexa Core 2.00 GHz. Luckily I had CPUZ and Fritz in my USB at the moment, so I benched it. CPUZ told me it's a quad core mullins, I guess HP wanted to make it sound better, couldn't monitor anything without admin privileges though. It scored 4246 with all 4 cores in Fritz, which is roughly the same as the quad core silvermont at 2.3 GHz convertible next to it (4191).

 

[TheELF]

I think they can get away with it because they(AMD) christianed them APU's,the whole idea of the Accelerated Processing Unit is that the VGA and the CPU get unified and are the same thing, with access to the same memory and so on.
AMD on their pages also specify them the same way.

Shintai,its obviously a typo,or a "typo" ,it should say "in addition to 4 CPU it has 2 graphics cores"

AMD is always very creative in producing hardware they can somehow spin as innovative and better than they really are.

I mean, come on,look at this.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-dynamic-frame-rate-control,28244.html

 

[Ramses]

I wouldn't go that far. Not worth $650+, surely, but it's a good chip for a cheap machine.

I had an a8-6410 for a month or so, Toshiba cheapy, put 16gb and a 500gig ssd in it, ran great. In every sort of use that a person is likely to be using a cheap laptop for it was perfectly equal to the i7-4510u I paid over 2x as much for to replace it with (toshiba goofed up some things on that model I had).
The i7 lappy has a gpu and games a bit, has 1080p screen and has an NGFF slot, but otherwise to a generic/regular user, same junk imo. I'd pay $600 for one if it wasn't a cheap flexy POS that the OE couldn't supply me a battery that was compatible with it.
They both had miserably slow hard drives, totally ruined the experience. Crazy. Big fast ram and SSD was a night and day difference.

If I could miracle up a laptop, it'd have that a8 cpu/chipset(just because it's good enough and I like to give AMD money since they need it more than Intel), the ram and ssd I added, 1080p matte 17" non-touch, and a decently rigid plastic chassis with a good touchpad and non goofy chicklet/island keyboard, for about $700.
If it exists, I couldn't find it. I'm only going to spend so much time looking for a laptop, but I did look pretty hard.

Semi related, the HP I replaced it with, which was overpriced but it was available locally, I bought mostly because I was able to quickly find a very thorough service, not owners, but service manual online, and the support site was well organized compared to Toshiba, and parts are readily available and the manual even lists part numbers. That sort of thing matters to me, I plan to run it four or five years so I'm sure something will break. I'm assume Dell has such still but in this price bracket all I found was complaints about junk touchpads so I passed. HP isn't what they used to be I'm sure and this example sales add is likely just a marketing dept being morons, but in my recent experience they are better than at least some.

 

[railven]

I had an a8-6410 for a month or so, Toshiba cheapy, put 16gb and a 500gig ssd in it, ran great. In every sort of use that a person is likely to be using a cheap laptop for it was perfectly equal to the i7-4510u I paid over 2x as much for to replace it with (toshiba goofed up some things on that model I had).
The i7 lappy has a gpu and games a bit, has 1080p screen and has an NGFF slot, but otherwise to a generic/regular user, same junk imo. I'd pay $600 for one if it wasn't a cheap flexy POS that the OE couldn't supply me a battery that was compatible with it.
They both had miserably slow hard drives, totally ruined the experience. Crazy. Big fast ram and SSD was a night and day difference.

If I could miracle up a laptop, it'd have that a8 cpu/chipset(just because it's good enough and I like to give AMD money since they need it more than Intel), the ram and ssd I added, 1080p matte 17" non-touch, and a decently rigid plastic chassis with a good touchpad and non goofy chicklet/island keyboard, for about $700.
If it exists, I couldn't find it. I'm only going to spend so much time looking for a laptop, but I did look pretty hard.

Semi related, the HP I replaced it with, which was overpriced but it was available locally, I bought mostly because I was able to quickly find a very thorough service, not owners, but service manual online, and the support site was well organized compared to Toshiba, and parts are readily available and the manual even lists part numbers. That sort of thing matters to me, I plan to run it four or five years so I'm sure something will break. I'm assume Dell has such still but in this price bracket all I found was complaints about junk touchpads so I passed. HP isn't what they used to be I'm sure and this example sales add is likely just a marketing dept being morons, but in my recent experience they are better than at least some.

I picked up an A6-6430? Or something when I was on vacation.

Returned it when I got back from vacation. My cell phone was faster. Sad when I could get directions faster on my cell phone than the laptop I bought to handle that purpose specifically.

EDIT: Correction, A6-6310, pretty sure it was this fellow:
http://www.amazon.com/HP-15-G010DX-15-6-Laptop-Quad-Core/dp/B00KPE68E8