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[Teclis2323]

I think what BobDelt was saying was that it might be safer and easier (and cheaper in the long run) to order a pre-built. That way he won't have to worry about messing any parts up or having to RMA DOA prod. I mean, consider the
Dell XPS400

it is under 1000 and comes with a 19" LCD....

I think it might be easier and more fun for this guy to customize one of these (through the Dell Website) and put in whatever he wants, and then just use that.

 

[dave518]

how long will it take for this computer to be obselete? like a year? i hope longer

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: dave518
Ok i have added the 54 dollar model to the list

awesome! You will not be dissapointed with this cooler I promise. I have one myself! Keeping my Opteron 144 (default 1.8Ghz) fully stable at 2.8GHz. If you do this it will greatly help your temps especially with the pentium D.

Another guide.

 

[dave518]

most of the pictures are not showing up for that first guide u sent me, that happens to me in emails also, can i do anything to solve this?

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Teclis2323
I think what BobDelt was saying was that it might be safer and easier (and cheaper in the long run) to order a pre-built. That way he won't have to worry about messing any parts up or having to RMA DOA prod. I mean, consider the
Dell XPS400

it is under 1000 and comes with a 19" LCD....

I think it might be easier and more fun for this guy to customize one of these (through the Dell Website) and put in whatever he wants, and then just use that.

yeahhhh, I'm sure he'd be completely happy with a radeon x300 in a rig that costs MORE than the one he's just put together. Also, you can't overclock dells.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: dave518
most of the pictures are not showing up for that first guide u sent me, that happens to me in emails also, can i do anything to solve this?

get a new computer?

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: dave518
how long will it take for this computer to be obselete? like a year? i hope longer

well this computer is going to be obsolete on july 23'd when conroe comes out. However, the cheapest conroe costs around $190, and then you need a high end mobo too.

 

[dave518]

that dell does look nice though takes the fun out of building one though, shipped to you all built, when you say obselete you mean not even worth using or compared to whats available?

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: dave518
that dell does look nice though takes the fun out of building one though, shipped to you all built, when you say obselete you mean not even worth using or compared to whats available?

I mean the NetBurst microarcitecture in the chip in your computer is being phased out and replaced by a new microarc. called Conroe. the Conroe chips have lower power consumption, and MUCH higher performance. A $300 conroe beats the $1200 FX-62 in most tests.

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[dave518]

I know they will be better, i was told to read about them before so i did, but would i still be able to use my computer?
EDIT i read that exact article to tell you the truth

 

[Teclis2323]

Just to let you know, I customized one of those Dells that I linked. I put on a 256MB PC-x card, an ultrasharp monitor, a 13-in-1 media card reader AND a Media Center remote control, all for 1,029 dollars.

Considering that you'd be able to play games very well on that, as well as watch movies (using the remote, you don't need to get up!) and you'd have a 19" ultrasharp monitor...and you would be set to go from opening the box. I urge you to consider that

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: dave518
I know they will be better, i was told to read about them before so i did, but would i still be able to use my computer?
EDIT i read that exact article to tell you the truth

of course you'd still be able to use your computer haha. This computer should even run windows vista when it comes out in q1 07. With just a gpu upgrade to something DX10 (which doesn't exist yet, but will before vista comes out), this pc would be fully vista compliant.

 

[dave518]

Yea i can see your point, thats how i and our family have gotten computers before , from Dell, it is a tempting computer, i just thought a way i could get into computers would be to actually build one from scratch, i do like that dell you have showed me though, i dont know if you can see where im coming from or not, thought i would explain my reasoning

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Teclis2323
Just to let you know, I customized one of those Dells that I linked. I put on a 256MB PC-x card, an ultrasharp monitor, a 13-in-1 media card reader AND a Media Center remote control, all for 1,029 dollars.

Considering that you'd be able to play games very well on that, as well as watch movies (using the remote, you don't need to get up!) and you'd have a 19" ultrasharp monitor...and you would be set to go from opening the box. I urge you to consider that

he couldn't afford $60 over for a cooler what makes you think he'd be able to afford $200 some more?

 

[dave518]

Vista compliant, thats a bonus, i could have the most up to date stuff then

 

[Teclis2323]

Hey Dave,

In terms of obselescence, it's not quite what you think. If you're talking about gaming a lot (which you're not) then obselescence comes relatively quickly. However, if you plan to use the computer mainly for myriad activities with a *bit* of gaming thrown in there, then your computer can easily last for 4-5 years, AS LONG AS YOU TAKE CARE OF IT!!!! (notice the emphasis!)

No matter what you do, make sure that you buy a system-tools kit and a protection kit. I recommend the IOLO System Mechanic 6 Pro. It has a ton of tools to help you keep your system fast, clean and customized, and also has spyware blockers, antivirus, firewall and all of that great stuff. it's about $70, but it's worth it if you really care about your computer.

I know that buying a computer takes the fun out of building one, but as a person who has built many, I can say that it's not always fun and games, and you don't have that safety net to fall back on like when you buy one. If you're worried about obselescence, plunk a few extra hundred bucks into the computer and really upgrade it. a 1300 rig will last a bit longer than a 1000 dollar one, solely because you'll have more horsepower under the hood

 

[dave518]

that is one thing i fear the fact i wont have something to fall back on, like if something went wrong, could always try and learn how to fix it though, forums are good, and i am pretty handy, but that is a good point

 

[Teclis2323]

Please don't get me wrong - I LOVE building computers. It's awesome. But the thing is, it's a lot more work than people make it out to be, at least, if you want a "perfectly functioning" one. there are plenty of people who can slap together a bunch of parts, but if you want to talk about price-to-performance ratios, many people (a younger myself, included!) simply don't know how, or are afraid, to really take the time and put together a GREAT pc. Building a rig certainly is awesome, but sometimes I'm tempted to just buy one and not have to worry about it!

Of course, I still rate myself as a beginner, and I've been building them for about 6 years. I'm just throwing in my own advice

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Teclis2323
Hey Dave,

In terms of obselescence, it's not quite what you think. If you're talking about gaming a lot (which you're not) then obselescence comes relatively quickly. However, if you plan to use the computer mainly for myriad activities with a *bit* of gaming thrown in there, then your computer can easily last for 4-5 years, AS LONG AS YOU TAKE CARE OF IT!!!! (notice the emphasis!)

No matter what you do, make sure that you buy a system-tools kit and a protection kit. I recommend the IOLO System Mechanic 6 Pro. It has a ton of tools to help you keep your system fast, clean and customized, and also has spyware blockers, antivirus, firewall and all of that great stuff. it's about $70, but it's worth it if you really care about your computer.

I know that buying a computer takes the fun out of building one, but as a person who has built many, I can say that it's not always fun and games, and you don't have that safety net to fall back on like when you buy one. If you're worried about obselescence, plunk a few extra hundred bucks into the computer and really upgrade it. a 1300 rig will last a bit longer than a 1000 dollar one, solely because you'll have more horsepower under the hood

wtf man a tool kit? Dude I haven't paid for one utility program in 2 years. I use Crap Cleaner to get rid of all the temporary junk and clean up the cookies to make the comp run faster, I use AntiVir for my antivirus program, the Windows Defender for spyware protection and scannage, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft Ad-Aware personal. They're all free and keep the comp running better than any tool kit.

EDIT: Oh yeah for firewall i use Nvidia's nforce firewall that comes with teh mobo.

 

[dave518]

newegg has that IOLO System Mechanic 6 Pro for 55 dollars it seems

 

[dave518]

i have mcaffee, comes free with my inetenet, has spyware, virus stuff, seems to work well for me so far

 

[Teclis2323]

Yeah, I'm just worried that on your first build, you'll get a DOA (dead on arrival) motherboard, or something will be messed up. It's not uncommon, and it can be SO FRUSTRATING to have to send things back and wait even longer.

That being said, if you decide to build one, I absolutely support you. I don't always check these forums, but if you need any help, email me at JLewis1023@gmail.com I check that pretty regularly. I can give you advice or help, as can ALL of these people. In fact, most of these people probably know more than I do!

Good Luck man, and even if you want to build your own, just keep the Dell in the back of your head

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: dave518
i have mcaffee, comes free with my inetenet, has spyware, virus stuff, seems to work well for me so far

mcaffe doesn't to crap compared to anti-vir, ad aware, and all that stuff i mentioned. Believe me people have run tests and mcaffe is always way down there, even below norton which is horrid.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Teclis2323
Yeah, I'm just worried that on your first build, you'll get a DOA (dead on arrival) motherboard, or something will be messed up. It's not uncommon, and it can be SO FRUSTRATING to have to send things back and wait even longer.

That being said, if you decide to build one, I absolutely support you. I don't always check these forums, but if you need any help, email me at JLewis1023@gmail.com I check that pretty regularly. I can give you advice or help, as can ALL of these people. In fact, most of these people probably know more than I do!

Good Luck man, and even if you want to build your own, just keep the Dell in the back of your head

I've had a DOA mobo, and it took about 3-4 days of work to diagnose the problem, i sent it back, got a new one, and I have been happy with this comp for 6+ months.

 

[dave518]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: dave518
i have mcaffee, comes free with my inetenet, has spyware, virus stuff, seems to work well for me so far

mcaffe doesn't to crap compared to anti-vir, ad aware, and all that stuff i mentioned. Believe me people have run tests and mcaffe is always way down there, even below norton which is horrid.

i guess im lucky then, i havent had problems lol