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Howard Traded to Lakers in 4 team deal!

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AMDZen said:
I couldn't disagree more. Aflallo is a hell of a talent and they got some good pieces along with 3 first round picks for a headcase that had their hands tied.

This is why basketball is a joke, with all these stars congregating and getting their way, or crying like a baby.

Although Orlando didn't make out nearly as well as Denver did when their hands were tied by that pussy Carmelo Anthony, they did well enough.

Thats the proper way to rebuild, blow it all up and get young guys in and draft picks.



Who would want to trade one baby for an even bigger one. Bynum is your typical talented player that most teams don't want to have anything to do with. Orlando didn't want him and I don't blame them
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Blow it up all he wants but get something back in return for the best Center in the NBA that is a defensive powerhouse.
 
Martingale said:
Seriously, does anyone else feel the NBA is rigged? How in the world do the lakers keep ending up with star players...
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The NBA should just be these markets

LA
Boston
Miami
New York


thats it.

All other markets (OKC included) don't have a prayer.
 
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OrByte said:
The NBA should just be these markets

LA
Boston
Miami
New York


thats it.

All other markets (OKC included) don't have a prayer.
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you probably have to include chicago in there too. but still, over the past 20 years, dallas, san antonio (4x), detroit, chicago (x6) and houston (x2) also won championships, none of which were the big coast markets.

hell even cleveland, philly, indiana orlando, OKC, new jersey nets, and utah were in the finals the past 20 years and had a shot of winning it all. so though it's harder, it's not impossible by any means.
 
dethman said:
you probably have to include chicago in there too. but still, over the past 20 years, dallas, san antonio (4x), detroit, chicago (x6) and houston (x2) also won championships, none of which were the big coast markets.

hell even cleveland, philly, indiana orlando, OKC, new jersey nets, and utah were in the finals the past 20 years and had a shot of winning it all. so though it's harder, it's not impossible by any means.
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Yeah but with the current "superteam" trend, it's becoming EXTREMELY top-heavy, which means that it isn't really worth watching before the conference finals or so.

Teams like Hakeem's rockets, the 2003 Spurs and the 2004 Pistons would never win a championship in next year's NBA. And of those Eastern Conference finals teams most of them only made it there because the EC completely sucked at the time. They'd have a snowball's chance in hell now.

And the problem is that the super team trend is self sustaining: everybody knows that there's almost zero chance to win a championship outside of a superteam, so every star that wants to win goes there.

In the end you get something like the Spanish Primera Division in soccer where 2 teams win 95% of the championships. It gets kinda boring.
 
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MontyAC said:
There's only 4 to 6 good teams in the NBA. All the rest are annual lottery pick teams to support these good teams. What a joke of a league.
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Everyone seems to think this is a new trend in the NBA. Making a "dream team". but this is how the NBA has been for at least the last 30 years. Especially with the Lakers. There's only been a handful of teams that have shared the championship the last 30 or so years.

Since 1980: Lakers have won 10 titles, Chicago has 6, Boston has 4 titles, Spurs have 4, Detroit has 3, Houston has 2, Miami has 2, Dallas has 1, Philly has 1. So that's only 8 different teams winning it all in 32 years, including Dallas and Philly who won one title each.

Lakers do seem to get a lot of breaks when it comes to trading though, definitely something fishy going on and Stern knows about it. They got Pau Gasol for nothing when they got him, now they are getting Dwight Howard for not much at all. Bynum threw tantrums a lot so not a huge loss there. Bynum could be an amazing player if he really worked hard but we'll see how that turns out.
 
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Im calling it here first. The next superteam will be Chris Paul, Howard, and Dirk.
Here's how it happens. The Heat win another title and CP3 and D12 realize that in order to get to the title they will need to team up in Dallas. The Lakers while a good team just were too old with not nearly enough depth to contend with the Heat. The Clippers while also making the playoffs, as a 7th seed, just couldn't overcome the constant choke jobs by Blake Griffin at the end of games.
 
HendrixFan said:
The Magic didn't get Bynum though.
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Perknose said:
Deeko's head explodes. D:
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Deeko said:
That wasn't my point. The point was he thought it was fair for the Lakers to ONLY give up Bynum - but when they gave up Bynum and a draft pick, he said they got him for basically nothing.
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Perknose sees Deeko's head magically coming back together in slo-mo rewind, takes another toke, and patiently awaits Deeko's NFL season predictions, which he confidently predicts will eventually eclipse Iwearnosox's psychotic breakdown as OT's favorite non-NEFF thread.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Im calling it here first. The next superteam will be Chris Paul, Howard, and Dirk.
Here's how it happens. The Heat win another title and CP3 and D12 realize that in order to get to the title they will need to team up in Dallas. The Lakers while a good team just were too old with not nearly enough depth to contend with the Heat. The Clippers while also making the playoffs, as a 7th seed, just couldn't overcome the constant choke jobs by Blake Griffin at the end of games.
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Chris Paul is more likely to walk across the hall and sign with the Lakers and we'll have Steve Nash come off the bench.

Muahahahhaha
 
While I don't necessarily believe the Lakers will beat the Spurs (the supreme coaching advantage for San Antonio is the biggest difference), it will be an interesting series. Without Kobe the Lakers are a different team than the one you spend months scouting against. Also the pressure of winning has kinda been lifted with Kobe's injury, and that may make them play more free.

I don't know if the Lakers can win a road playoff game without Kobe though, so I predict the Spurs will win it barring some crazy stuff (how is the Spurs' health?).
 
lupi said:
A shame they got in last night.
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The Lakers? It's FUCKING AWESOME! I'm going to bet about 50 of their fans who think they're going to actually beat the Spurs in the 1st round. I'll have a big ass wad of monies in a few weeks. I see absolutely no down side to them getting into the playoffs. If they end up beating the Spurs I dunno what I'll do, but the chances of that happening are really zero.
 
Atomic Playboy said:
On paper, the Lakers suddenly look extremely good, nigh on unbeatable. But Kobe's getting older, Nash is ancient (even if he doesn't seem like it), and if you can't keep Howard motivated, you're just asking for more drama next year. And Pau doesn't want to feel like a third option, and now he's in a place where he could be seen as the fourth? How's that going to work with his demeanor?
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I don't remember writing this back in August, but hot damn, I'm chalking that up as one of my more accurate predictions. Granted, Kobe actually played lights-out this year prior to the injury, but everything else? Bam.
 
They have no Nash or Kobe for the playoffs. All their players will need to pull triple double like Pau did last night.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
So, they're in and then they're right back out. WTF are they capable of beating in a 7 game series? An early exit and a shittier draft pick.
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No draft pick. They got Nash.

It could be interesting. The Lakers' shooters aren't as good as the Magics', but if 1 or 2 get hot, the inside out game will be completely unstoppable.

Yes, this season was a bit of a disaster for the Lakers. But imagine how much worse it would have been without Bynum.

Speaking of which, it looks like the 76ers were the big loser in 2012. Who knows how things end up next year.
 
With them in there's a chance Howard has a couple decent games and feels better about resigning. Being blocked totally from the playoffs let's the hate and turmoil build sooner and higher so hopefully he packs his bags for good.
 
jaedaliu said:
No draft pick. They got Nash.

It could be interesting. The Lakers' shooters aren't as good as the Magics', but if 1 or 2 get hot, the inside out game will be completely unstoppable.

Yes, this season was a bit of a disaster for the Lakers. But imagine how much worse it would have been without Bynum.

Speaking of which, it looks like the 76ers were the big loser in 2012. Who knows how things end up next year.
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That is a "bit" of an understatement...almost everyone was calling the Lakers to at least make it into the finals. Instead, they limp into the playoffs, showed zero abaility to play consistent ball throughout the season, and will likely get a first round boot.
 
lupi said:
With them in there's a chance Howard has a couple decent games and feels better about resigning. Being blocked totally from the playoffs let's the hate and turmoil build sooner and higher so hopefully he packs his bags for good.
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Meh, the rest of the league is now fully aware that the Lakers are more than capable of losing - there is no fear in playing them. If they keep this line up, they won't win next year either. The elite teams are playing run and gun basketball (just look at the top seeds from both confereces). This team is too old to even come close to keeping up.
 
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