Howard Dean Portrays Rush Limbaugh as Cokehead?

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Tabb
How are showing the facts a personal attack?

How is this showing the facts? As I recall, Limbaugh was addicted to pain killers, not coke.

Jason

Actually, cocaine I beileve was used a painkiller....

the difference is that one is LEGAL, and one is not. Rush got hooked on painkillers he took LEGALLY. He didn't just choose to start taking coke b/c he wanted to.

Actually soliciting drugs to support an addiction is a felony in his state. Further, it seems he used his housekeeper to acquire a supply for him. That is also a felony. Sorry, the drug may be legal, but how he got them is a real crime.

 

[Infohawk]

My annoyance is starting to move away from rip towards those who feed him.

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
My annoyance is starting to move away from rip towards those who feed him.

it's like taking swings at a punching bag though very therapeutic, THANKS RIP!!!

 

[glenn1]

Cokehead? No. Limbaugh is no more a cokehead because of being hooked on oxycotin than is Clinton one because he once smoked a joint but didn't inhale. If anything I think that Mr. Primal Scream himself can use a little something to help him mellow out a bit, he seems a bit high strung

Now if Dean had called Rush and his radio show "boring as hell" then I would be in complete agreement.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
your right rip, howard dean was wrong for what he said. he shoudl have called rush limbaugh a FAT cokehead!

Or a coked up fathead... but that wouldn't be accurate, either. Actually, he's an pain meds junkie. He was busted for oxycontin, lorcet and hydrocodone, all class 1 perscription drugs, and all highly addictive.

Limbaugh's a motormouth moralizing maniac hypocrite with neither the moral or intellectual standing to criticize anyone for anything. :|

 

[KidViciou$]

Originally posted by: glenn1
Cokehead? No. Limbaugh is no more a cokehead because of being hooked on oxycotin than is Clinton one because he once smoked a joint but didn't inhale. If anything I think that Mr. Primal Scream himself can use a little something to help him mellow out a bit, he seems a bit high strung

Now if Dean had called Rush and his radio show "boring as hell" then I would be in complete agreement.

limbaugh is more of a cokehead because he was hooked on a drug that was obtained illegally. clinton wasn't hooked on weed. but yes, continhead woulda been a more accurate description

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No ideas on social security, no ideas on the war on terror, no ideas on the war in Iraq, no ideas on North Korea, etc.

The obstructionist party has been reduced to immature falicious personal attacks.

Keep up the good work Democratic party. You're just insuring that your power will continue to dwindle.

Link

The humor is flowing here, no doubt. The administration seeks to discredit the character of anyone who is a threat to their PR machine, and you're in tears that Dean picks on a known [dishonest] druggy. How one avoids an aneurism in this case is beyond me.

 

[Spencer278]

It says dean was acting like Rush and snorting lines. It doesn't quote Dean saying weather the lines are coke or oxycotin.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
your right rip, howard dean was wrong for what he said. he shoudl have called rush limbaugh a FAT cokehead!

Or a coked up fathead... but that wouldn't be accurate, either. Actually, he's an pain meds junkie. He was busted for oxycontin, lorcet and hydrocodone, all class 1 perscription drugs, and all highly addictive.

Limbaugh's a motormouth moralizing maniac hypocrite with neither the moral or intellectual standing to criticize anyone for anything. :|

But he was in such terrible paaaaain. Didn't you notice how much pain he was in during his TV broadcasts?? I can still hear the pain in his voice..........poor Rush. He had one rush too many and got caught. LMAO

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: glenn1
Cokehead? No. Limbaugh is no more a cokehead because of being hooked on oxycotin than is Clinton one because he once smoked a joint but didn't inhale. If anything I think that Mr. Primal Scream himself can use a little something to help him mellow out a bit, he seems a bit high strung

Now if Dean had called Rush and his radio show "boring as hell" then I would be in complete agreement.

Interesting.. you are usually pretty level headed... I do not understand why/how you could defend Limbaugh... He is a Criminal .. a Drug Addict... and if sentenced under HIS OWN IDEAS then he would be in prison for life...


How do so many Republicans look past his wrongs and his hypocrisy with such ease?

His crime was FAR FAR worse than that of Martha Stewart... but look at what happened to her?

BTW, where is Ken Lay?

 

[impeachbush]

Nooo... oxycontin is schedule 2, lorcet (contains hydrocodone) is schedule 3. Schedule 1 are not sold as prescriptions, and would include liquid cocaine for example (used in certain surgerys). The guy is definitely guilty according to the law, but in my opinion, no one with an addiction to pain meds should be prosecuted unless they forge scripts, sell, manufacture, steal, etc. He doctor shopped, but thats a joke. There is pretty good evidence that he obtained higher quantities illegally through other means,however (like though his maid).

What he does deserve hell for is his years of preaching about the importance of locking up non violent drug offenders, and keeping them off the streets and away from society. Just another extreme right-wing drug abusing, lets not forget BIG FAT, hipocrite. :roll:

Edit: I don't blame him though! That guy must of had such a guilty conscience for turning so many people into ignorant money grubbing seal clubbing war mongers. He was probably trying to kill the pain of guilt! Hell, I would, but a bullet to the head wouldn't be enough. He must have no soul... but then what would a soulless entity be doing abusing pain killers... gotta think this one through a bit.

 

[kylebisme]

It's just silly to compare OxyContin to coke, OxyContin is hillbilly heroin.

 

[Orsorum]

Like I said in another thread, Rip: "I considered myself Republican as a youth, and it is mainly because of a forced association with people like you that I became Libertarian. You think that you're in power forever, because you garnered 51% of the vote. 51% doesn't mean jack. Try 60% for LBJ, then 60% for Nixon two terms later. You act as though just because Republicans won that the Democrats (and liberals) are somehow irrelevent. 55 million people are not irrelevent. 55 million people deserve to have their wishes, desires, and needs considered and honored as citizens and taxpayers in this nation."

That's all I have to say on that. Rush can wallow in his hypocrisy and Dean can rot.

 

[nageov3t]

delay's vast left wing conspiracy strikes again!

 

[glenn1]

Interesting.. you are usually pretty level headed... I do not understand why/how you could defend Limbaugh... He is a Criminal .. a Drug Addict... and if sentenced under HIS OWN IDEAS then he would be in prison for life...

I don't consider enforcing the meaning of language to rise to the level of a defense of the person the language is being used about. If you call someone a "cokehead," it means a very particular thing, and you should be aware of the implications of the term. Now if you had called Rush a druggie, addict, or any other number of things that would be fine, but he's not a cokehead if that term is to mean anything at all. Just as you wouldn't call someone a murderer if they swatted a mosquito that was biting them, you shouldn't call someone a cokehead who is not taking cocaine, but rather painkillers.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Tabb
How are showing the facts a personal attack?

How is this showing the facts? As I recall, Limbaugh was addicted to pain killers, not coke.

Jason

Considering prescription drug abuse is the #1 drug problem for teenagers . . . I guess Rush is just trying to be good "role model."

MSNBC

The 17th annual study on teen drug abuse, released Thursday, found that more teens had abused a prescription painkiller in 2004 than Ecstasy, cocaine, crack or LSD. One in 11 teens had abused over-the-counter products such as cough medicine, the study reported.

?For the first time, our national study finds that today?s teens are more likely to have abused a prescription painkiller to get high than they are to have experimented with a variety of illegal drugs,? said Partnership Chairman Roy Bostock. ?In other words, Generation Rx has arrived.?

 

[CaptnKirk]

OK - instead of 'Cokehead' we'll use the term 'Dickhead'.

Go to Bob Rivers
and play 'Oxycotin Eater'
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Well I was in the car and I heard this guy
He sounded all shook up and he told me why
His voice was shaking on the E.I.B.
Sound like an OxyContin eater to me

It was a bug-eyed, tone deaf, flying OxyContin eater
Right Wing, syndicated, spinning Liberal people beater
Right Wing, strung out, hypocrite prescription cheater
Rush looked strange to me
That guy?

Well his housekeeper picked up some drugs on the street
And she brought the stuff home for the boss to eat
I heard him say in a voice so gruff
?I tried to quit twice but it was just too tough.?

He was a big mouth, blow hard, Right Wing propaganda reader
Bad ear, sore back, 30 dose a day pill eater
A three time, retread, frequent Betty Ford repeater
Still looks high to me
One more time?

I said Mr. OxyContin guy the show sounds fine
I see you beating up on Liberals using half your mind
So what?s the real reason that you?re in Rehab?
?I wanna get my job back and slam Mcnabb.?

Well bless his soul, no control, former jelly donut eater
Dope stashing, Clinton bashing, flying OxyContin eater
ESPN SPORTS
Fired color commentator
What a site to see
Pill popping?s evil

And after 30 short days well what do you know
He pops back up on his radio show,
He was preaching away to the ditto heads
While his maid faced the music cause he sang to the Feds

I am not a victim in this. I? Criminals like this should be put in jail off the streets.
They?re the worst kind of offenders. I blame Hillary Clinton. She?s the reason for all of this.

I should?ve stuck with tequila.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Calm down boys. Rush is just a self admitted felon (oh yeah, what he admitted to is a felony in his state, prosecuted or not). That he continues to preach just proves his lack of character.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
A recent study indicated that Oxycontin and Vicodin are the new drugs of choice among high school students. So it seems that Rush is a trendsetter for the youth of America.

Didn't his Royal Lardness blame Clinton for the increase in oral sex in schools?. Go figure.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
your right rip, howard dean was wrong for what he said. he shoudl have called rush limbaugh a FAT cokehead!

:thumbsup:

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No ideas on social security, no ideas on the war on terror, no ideas on the war in Iraq, no ideas on North Korea, etc.

The obstructionist party has been reduced to immature falicious personal attacks.

Keep up the good work Democratic party. You're just insuring that your power will continue to dwindle.

Link

No "ideas" on Social Security. Well, majority of Americans agree with the Democrats on that, and reject Republican "ideas."
Democrats do have ideas on the war on terror. Um.. How about going after the actual terrorists who struck us on 9/11. There is an idea.
No ideas on the war on iraq? How about bringing in more allies, instead of alienating them and nominating some pighead to head diplomacy at the UN. There is an idea.
What are Bush's "ideas" on North Korea? Let the Chinese and Europeans take care of it?

Actually, you're making assertions without any great basis in fact. From what I've seen, polls seem to show majority's in SUPPORT of revising Socialist Security at times, AGAINST it at other times. Since neither Republicans or Democrats have bothered to discuss the issue HONESTLY, it's no wonder people (who are idiots in general) are confused.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No ideas on social security, no ideas on the war on terror, no ideas on the war in Iraq, no ideas on North Korea, etc.

The obstructionist party has been reduced to immature falicious personal attacks.

Keep up the good work Democratic party. You're just insuring that your power will continue to dwindle.

Link

Having NO ideas is better than having BAD ideas ... at least in my book. Not in yours, apparently.

I disagree on the following grounds: A person whose ideas you think are BAD at least has the courage and intellectual fortitude to THINK to some extent. Perhaps he doesn't think enough, perhaps he never learned to reason well (which is pretty likely given the state of our educational system in the US).

Meanwhile a person with NO ideas hasn't bothered to muster the motivation to even *start* his brain.

Bad ideas may equal a good person with a bad approach, but no ideas definitely equals a lazy, non-intellectual buffoon.

Jason

Right you are, however the net effect is far worse with the person with BAD ideas than the status quo would be from the person with NO ideas. You'd have to agree with me there.

Besides, the Democrats actually DO have ideas, however the talking point morons who will remain nameless can't be bothered to even find out what they are. Who's intellectually lazy now?

Well for one, the Democrats are intellectually lazy. I have yet to hear a SINGLE Democrat propose any sort of DETAILED option to counter Republican "plans" (which themselves are vague and unclear) for revising Socialist Security, immigration reform or any other important issue. John Kerry was an EXCELLENT example of a Democrat who said NOTHING meaningful, and who, like Bush, waged a campaign of negative rhetoric and accusations without bothering to reference reality, discuss any positive actions or do *anything* specific.

Democrats and Republicans are UNITED in their refusal to say anything specific, hold any principled line or even CONSIDER the welfare of the American People before their primary goals: The attainment of power.

Right now the R's are doing better at keeping themselves in power. Eventually it will be the D's, and then the R's again, and then the D's. Regardless of which of these majority parties get themselves into temporary power, the American Citizen is the LAST consideration and the LOWEST priority.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Did you learn that Bush is Hitler from Moveon or did you think that up all by yourself?

Hey, you said it

I think the point was that just having ideas isn't always a good thing. Taking some time and thinking up good ideas is preferable to going forward with the first dumbass idea that comes into your head. Or maybe the Republicans have it right..."A crummy plan now is better than a good plan later!"

It's not just the Republicans who have that mentality, though. Observe Clinton's "plan" for dealing with the numerous terrorist attacks on Americans while he was in office: Ignore them, hope they go away.

And clearly enough, that lead straight to 9/11. Now Bush is sitting here with his thumb in the middle eastern pies (which is not unjust or wrong) but completely REFUSING to protect our borders while MILLIONS of illegal aliens pour in from Mexico year in and year out.

The next terrorist attack WILL be Bush's fault for spending too much time and money overseas while spending too LITTLE effort, time, money and energy HERE. Perhaps if he's stop sucking Vicente Fox's dick we could get some damn border security!

Jason

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No ideas on social security, no ideas on the war on terror, no ideas on the war in Iraq, no ideas on North Korea, etc.

The obstructionist party has been reduced to immature falicious personal attacks.

Keep up the good work Democratic party. You're just insuring that your power will continue to dwindle.

Link

Having NO ideas is better than having BAD ideas ... at least in my book. Not in yours, apparently.

I disagree on the following grounds: A person whose ideas you think are BAD at least has the courage and intellectual fortitude to THINK to some extent. Perhaps he doesn't think enough, perhaps he never learned to reason well (which is pretty likely given the state of our educational system in the US).

Meanwhile a person with NO ideas hasn't bothered to muster the motivation to even *start* his brain.

Bad ideas may equal a good person with a bad approach, but no ideas definitely equals a lazy, non-intellectual buffoon.

Jason

Right you are, however the net effect is far worse with the person with BAD ideas than the status quo would be from the person with NO ideas. You'd have to agree with me there.

Besides, the Democrats actually DO have ideas, however the talking point morons who will remain nameless can't be bothered to even find out what they are. Who's intellectually lazy now?

Well for one, the Democrats are intellectually lazy. I have yet to hear a SINGLE Democrat propose any sort of DETAILED option to counter Republican "plans" (which themselves are vague and unclear) for revising Socialist Security, immigration reform or any other important issue. John Kerry was an EXCELLENT example of a Democrat who said NOTHING meaningful, and who, like Bush, waged a campaign of negative rhetoric and accusations without bothering to reference reality, discuss any positive actions or do *anything* specific.

Democrats and Republicans are UNITED in their refusal to say anything specific, hold any principled line or even CONSIDER the welfare of the American People before their primary goals: The attainment of power.

Right now the R's are doing better at keeping themselves in power. Eventually it will be the D's, and then the R's again, and then the D's. Regardless of which of these majority parties get themselves into temporary power, the American Citizen is the LAST consideration and the LOWEST priority.

Jason

This is one thing we mostly agree on, however I don't think the Dem leadership is so much lazy (though they are in part) as fearful. The Reps have done a good job stigmatizing them, and it sticks no matter how valid or ridiculous the claim. IMO the main reason for that is Iraq. They were suckered into the WMD hoax and therefore cannot use that as a weapon. They tarred and feathered themselves.

Their best hope is to admit they were suckered, let the Reps bitch and push HARD. Identify the obvious Republican weaknesses and hammer them home. That though is the lazy business. They have opportunities but no voice, and seemingly no will to find one.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$

Originally posted by: glenn1
Cokehead? No. Limbaugh is no more a cokehead because of being hooked on oxycotin than is Clinton one because he once smoked a joint but didn't inhale. If anything I think that Mr. Primal Scream himself can use a little something to help him mellow out a bit, he seems a bit high strung

Now if Dean had called Rush and his radio show "boring as hell" then I would be in complete agreement.

limbaugh is more of a cokehead because he was hooked on a drug that was obtained illegally. clinton wasn't hooked on weed. but yes, continhead woulda been a more accurate description

How about this: NEITHER is a Cokehead in ANY degree. Neither has, to my knowledge, EVER been accused of or have admitted to being on, being addicted to, formerly addicted to or anything else to do with Cocaine.

Jason