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How would you end stop and frisk policing?

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SteveGrabowski said:
Would die for something worthwhile then.
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GettyRoad said:
If you do that, you end up dead. Why would you want that?
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Why would he end up dead? A guillotine implies social revolution, and which point if he is the one pulling the lever he is very unlikely to end up in the guillotine.


Of course, revolution is your entire goal, isn't it? I hate to break it to you, never going to happen. You want people to get mad like that. That was your point of starting this thread.

GettyRoad said:
Middle class white America see street crime as a bigger issue than financial...even white liberal NYC (Mike Bloomberg)
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Once again, your just trying to make us angry. Create division where there is none. Empower the state where it is unnecessary.

Crime is down.
www.statista.com

Infographic: Violent Crime Rates Fall in the U.S.

Rate of selected violent crimes in the U.S. per 100,000 people in 2022 and change from 2021/19.
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Your just trying to spread fear and terror.
You are a terrorist.

That is your purpose here. To spread terror.

You are the enemy of democracy.

Slava Ukraini.
 
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fskimospy said:
What’s funny is crime in NYC is lower now than it was in most of the stop and frisk era.

Does that make you reconsider?
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I thought that was because petty crime isn't prosecuted anymore? Car break in's, shop lifting, things along those lines. Why would the average person even report a crime if they know nothing will be done about it?
Back when I had my annual truck robbery the only reason I reported it was for the insurance company. The police wouldn't respond, they just had a website where I filled out a form, a cop would sign it and send it back to me.

It's a little surprising to me that we've so easily accepted theft as a normal part of life, and that thieves shouldn't be punished. I don't think that system going to net an improvement in the average persons life.
 
Greenman said:
I thought that was because petty crime isn't prosecuted anymore? Car break in's, shop lifting, things along those lines. Why would the average person even report a crime if they know nothing will be done about it?
Back when I had my annual truck robbery the only reason I reported it was for the insurance company. The police wouldn't respond, they just had a website where I filled out a form, a cop would sign it and send it back to me.

It's a little surprising to me that we've so easily accepted theft as a normal part of life, and that thieves shouldn't be punished. I don't think that system going to net an improvement in the average persons life.
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Nope, the idea that crime is only lower because it goes unreported is a common lie in right wing media to (bafflingly) avoid admitting crime rates are better.

Even if you thought that is true though crime is also down in areas that aren’t subject to non-reporting like murder.

Great news, right?
 
pcgeek11 said:
No it doesn't. It may be lower, but is still too high everywhere. Not just in NYC. (San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami ...)
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jesus fucking christ.

are you fucking simps ever going to challenge yourselves with actually investigating the reality behind these nonsense assertions, or is it enough to just sit back and swallow the baseless propaganda from your conservative Information Feed Bags that you call "news", as you sit back in your LazyBoys, resting your diabetic limbs?
 
fskimospy said:
Nope, the idea that crime is only lower because it goes unreported is a common lie in right wing media to (bafflingly) avoid admitting crime rates are better.

Even if you thought that is true though crime is also down in areas that aren’t subject to non-reporting like murder.

Great news, right?
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Crime rates are only true when going up and lies when going down is the conservative mantra.
 
ch33zw1z said:
Stop & Frisk is a huge violation of the 4th Amendment IMO. Again, it's not the 2nd....so half of america doesn't even care.
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But not in Russia, it is a weird concept.
Decades ago I saw a “Cops” episode (the fox channel police show), Cops in *Whatever Russian City*. The Cops were all pretty much what we are used to, they had the same daily challenges as US police. Thing that was really strange was a patrol questions a woman on the street and they take her to the station because:
She dressed like a prostitute
She looked like a prostitute
She had a purse with foreign money which Prosititutes tend to have
She had no reason to be standing where she was standing.

Sort of eye opening to me at the time. Look like a criminal you are a criminal.
 
fskimospy said:
Nope, the idea that crime is only lower because it goes unreported is a common lie in right wing media to (bafflingly) avoid admitting crime rates are better.

Even if you thought that is true though crime is also down in areas that aren’t subject to non-reporting like murder.

Great news, right?
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If it's accurate it is indeed good news. I'll have to look into it.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
But not in Russia, it is a weird concept.
Decades ago I saw a “Cops” episode (the fox channel police show), Cops in *Whatever Russian City*. The Cops were all pretty much what we are used to, they had the same daily challenges as US police. Thing that was really strange was a patrol questions a woman on the street and they take her to the station because:
She dressed like a prostitute
She looked like a prostitute
She had a purse with foreign money which Prosititutes tend to have
She had no reason to be standing where she was standing.

Sort of eye opening to me at the time. Look like a criminal you are a criminal.
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Sounds familiar. Stereotypes are a real time saver.

fwiw: I still think it should be legal for consenting adults to trade money to sex. Sex shaming needs to end, which I also think would go a long way to help mental health in our country.
 
K1052 said:
Crime rates are only true when going up and lies when going down is the conservative mantra.
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Crime data and economic data are related in that regard but I think it's more a thing that they are lies when they say crime is going down under a Democrat. They are perfectly happy to believe good crime/economic stats if a Republican is in charge.

Just look at the conservative belief in economic data when Trump took over for Obama. They were happy to trumpet the exact same data they had called lies for the last eight years.
 
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