How would the discovery of Alien Intelligent affect you?

[warlord]

capn, you may be right in that hypocrite is not the correct word. However, his posts look like Stalin on a soap box, and to say that "non-belief in God is just not logical rational thinking" is rather absurd.

 

[Capn]

*cough* lame copout *cough*

C'mon show me how he's one of "the biggest freaking hyprocrites on this planet." Chad's made three posts in this thread.

Post One: There are no Aliens
Post Two: hehe
Post Three: If he's wrong then no harm done, then something about a penis


Oh yes, double standard all over the place. Maybe you should read the thread, before I start calling you a hypocrite or something, but at least I'd have reason.

No wait here's my proper response to your drivel.

"You already had your mind made up blah blah blah so I don't want to play anymore, where's my mommy."

 

[Capn]

Yes warlord, I agree I'm not defending his opinions. Just the fact that everone's lame attack is to call him a hypocrite.

 

[imhotepmp]

[flame]Does everything have to revolve around religion, im sure doomers intent was to have an intelligent discussion aobut how would it change your beliefs, morals, philosophy(sp?), etc. And yes god does fit into that, but you are outright wrong and ignorant to say statements like
There is no aliens, get over it
shove it up your a$$! Thats the most ignorant, close minded, and stupid comment ive ever heard in my life. Please refrain from making comments on subjects you have no clue of.[end flame]
sorry man you deserved it! If your going to state something, please have enough courtesy and class to prove your argument with logic and common sense like the rest of us do. Stop ranting. People like you are probably the ones who would follow hitler just because you belive things too blindly and are so closed to new ideas. Thank you.*sigh
im tired
i am expecting flames, I got my fire extinguisher ready, so bring it on!

 

[jhu]

there are no aliens. get over it.

 

[Chad]

Apologies. I did come off as a little arrogant. Let me rephrase...

I don't believe there are Aliens, in my mind, I have thought about it quite a bit actually, I do not see it as feasible.

Anywhoo... really, I apologize for getting so many upset, and in all rights, you all had the right to be upset with me, considering the topic. However, I hope one doesn't condemn me for the lack of better judgment on a particular issue.

Now, as far as the two guys calling me retarded and flaming me, you guys are on your own on that stuff, I won't get into a personal name calling match. But it does seem your more mad at my religion than you are at me. Or the fact that I don't believe in Aliens (?). I don't know. Whatever.

 

[imhotepmp]

jhu
good comeback man!!

 

[OS]

Well since someone seems to have a fetish with this chad-is-a-hypocrite point, you want to point out specifically where I said "Chad is a hypocrite"? I said

I swear, religious people are the biggest freaking hyprocrites on this planet.

as a heat of the moment rant. But anyways, I see how you enjoy stuffing words in my mouth. Are you so anxious to prove me wrong that you are willing to resort to lies?

"You already had your mind made up blah blah blah so I don't want to play anymore, where's my mommy."

And now you need to resort to personal attacks on me? And yet, didn't you say earlier

Only a man with piss poor debating skills has to result in calling someone a "retard"

Who has "piss poor debating skills" now? Who's the hypocrite now? Pretending to be above personal attacks at first and yet later resorting to them yourself? Or is it only ok for you to do name calling but not for others?

The thread first started to degenerate when Chad came in here to rip on our discussion. Now, when someone comes into a perfectly good discussion to rip on others, you can also expect a nice flame war in response. He fired the first shot, not those who were already in the thread. It is "pure common sense" that when you make unfounded and unsubstantiated attacks on other people's ideas, you will get lots of nasty replies back.

 

[OS]

Since Chad seems to have owned up to his intial post, I must also give out apologies to Chad for the retard and the like comments, since they are inappropriate in the light of his last post.

 

[Chad]

In the nature of good things, I have edited my initial post and removed my remarks entirely from the discussion. Not that I don't still beleive that there are no Aliens, but just that I said it in a rude way. Ciao.

 

[jhu]

How would the discovery of Alien Intelligent affect you?

not much. they do the jobs that no one else wants

 

[kduncan5]

You're from what planet? Oh, over there... Hey, is it twinkling or something? Oh, I see. Yeah, you're right. There are alot of us humans who lack intelligence and/or a sense of humor. I mean, you'd have to have a sense of humor, and especially restraint!, to look at you guys and not bust a gut laughing!!! Oh, hey, I didn't mean anything by that. Hey, put that ray gun away you crazy alien! Hey, I'm not jok-

 

[kduncan5]

Actually, discovery of alien intelligent life would be pretty neat if you ask me. I would hope that I'm one of the first to meet them......


.....so I can talk them into getting me the hell off this crazy planet!!!!! (At least for a ride anyway, please?????) -kd5-

 

[Hyper99]

ok guy you going to have to guess
there maybe or may not be life that existed
light years away
not parallel dimension but out of our reach!
we have a serious problem even getting to the the moon
so how can you even go any further without risking your life
The alien we talking about are just a figure of your imagination
we are all wrong about how they look like!
because it like trying to picture how I look like!
you can't can you unless you really see me in person
or saw a picture.
in a way they have their own problem as well say another EARTH in a far far away space in another solar
system.
who know maybe they went a different direction and killed themselve
what really confused me is how did life started where did it
begin and when it will end?!?
who give a crap about alien exist or not
we can't even figure out how we came to be!!!
In short we need to figure this puzzle out before we can go
any further.

 

[Hyper99]

Dinosaur for example could be as harmless as a bug
are we getting smarter and smarter every time
the answer is yes after every generation
let say you are smarter then your dad
and your child is going to be smarter then you when he grow up
it is infact evolution and not creation
our future generation take after us and become smarter
I'm saying with the knowledge we gained in our life time
it make their life much easier and with it they will learn much faster then we did in our past life
we are not repeating mistake aren't we?
so the child having better educated is already smarter
we were taught not to smoke, not to drink, and education are getting better
all the time.
We invent better thing all the time let look back 100 yrs ago
what did we have?
nothing like we have today right?
Life can only
get
better
We are approaching robotic technology
where we will first use them for labor to do some
heavy lifting but they will never be given a brain to think on their own
this way we will alway be their brain
you can program them to actually do chores for you around the house
or even at work they can be used to make life much easier
The computer today are just a step to future technology
the impossible will be a reality only in time we will
aquire it once the mystery has been solved.








a person can only do so much in a given time
yet he does not alway remember thing
he may often forget and act like nothing has happened
because that is our weakness
the computer is a tool
yet it does not think but it is more capable then we can
in certain task
and that the beauty of it, mankind invent thing to help him
to aid him and to entertain himself.

 

[Thorn]

I'd invite them over for beers (the aliens that is). Wouldn't change my beliefs at all, I'm expecting them actually.

If there isn't anyone else out there, it'd be an "ungodly" waste of space.

 

[Shazam]

Here's a thought: What if we couldn't recognize alien life? What if they are here right now, and they're waving frantically at us saying "hello" and we're oblivious to it because we can only recognize life as such that exists on earth?

 

[apoppin]

Actually, If one were to believe the Bible they would HAVE to believe in aliens (non-humans). The Bible speaks of angels and demons as intellegent creatures invisible to humans.

So there.

 

[warlord]

Chad,

I wasn't offended by your statements at all, I was trying to point out the flaw in your argument. You say that you have done quite a bit of thinking about it, and you do not see how it is feesable. Well I have probably done 10 times that amount of thinking. As someone who doesn't believe in any omnipotent being, I am constantly challenged to support my opinion, so my arguments are fairly well laid out.

[the following is constructive critisim, not an attack]
Your posts in reponse to this thread read like the response of someone who always has and always will blindly accept god. First if you have ever studied evolution, you will understand why evolutionists think there is a rhyme and reason to most things. Having male and female reproductive organs are explained by the reasoning that at some point we were formed from the same organisim. This is exactly the same as saying all humans are related becasue they came from adam and eve, but on a grander scale, and from a different prospective. If I was you, I would take a philosophy class, it would probably do wonders to strengthen your arguments, and your basic beliefs becasue you will better understand them for yourself.

 

[bluemax]

Pity that with evolution, there's six steps. Only the last one has been observed at all. The steps of man have been proven falsified, including "Lucy" which was no more than a monkey to begin with, and one of the "early man" skeletons was formed by a fragment of skull and another by a single pig's tooth.
I like to think of myself as a scientific mind, and I don't believe something until it's proven, and I have a hard time believing something proven wrong. After some study (and I'm no theologist) I've come the the tentative conclusion that evolution is a fraud, and surprisingly, the bible has yet to fail! The dead sea scrolls were found less than 100 years ago, but lo and behold! It still matches the bible perfectly, so the bible hasn't been altered in about 1700-1800 years! Many attempts have been made, mind you- especially by Catholics...

I like how one man put it...
"Believing in evolution is like believing an explosion in a typewriter factory can result in a non-abridged dictionary."

If you take advanced biology, and really think about it... life, itself, is so incredibly complex- still far beyond our understanding- how could it have "just happened"? How come our DNA is so radically different from other creatures if we all crawled out of the same "primordial goo"? The evidence is stacked high AGAINST evolution. I'm surprised the schools have stripped out religion and forced evolution in its place... Good thing Canada isn't quite that far gone... yet.

EDIT: typos from this stupid keyboard. I'd written this message much better a few hours ago, but the forums crashed before I could hit "send". Bah!

 

[OS]

If you take advanced biology, and really think about it... life, itself, is so incredibly complex- still far beyond our understanding- how could it have "just happened"?

Complex life didn't just happen. Life began simply as a set of molecules that had the ability to self replicate. Later chemical reactions with these already existing set of molecules provided different variations of these self replicating molecules. Some molecules were faster and/or more efficient at self replication and as these changes kept occuring, we began to have single celled organisms and so forth.

I'm sorry that you think evolution is a crock, but it is how nature works and if you look around, you'll probably notice that only religious people have issues with it. I wonder why.

 

[OS]

How come our DNA is so radically different from other creatures if we all crawled out of the same "primordial goo"?

The whole point of evolution is to explain this question. If you knew what the definition of evolution really was, you'd know that in it's simplest terms, evolution says that gene pools will change over time. That's all that it says. Nothing more. Also, evolution says nothing about "primordial goo". Go look in a textbook if you don't believe me. In fact, do me a favor and go to http://www.dictionary.com and look up evolution. Notice that it says nothing about "primordial goo." That particular aspect of biology belongs to biochemistry, not evolution.

If you believe that children have different genes than those of either of their parents, you have indirectly said that evolution occurs. In fact let us assume for a moment that in fact evolution doesn't exist, and that gene pools never change. Then, the only alternative for reproduction to occur, would merely be perpetual cloning. Surely you don't find this plausible do you? How come every child is different from their parents? How come we can identify criminals by their DNA sequence? How can fruit growers strive to create seedless fruits that were previously nonexistant? Why are bacteria becoming more antibiotic resistant? Why are insects also becoming more insecticide resistant? How come the AIDS virus didn't exist 100 years ago? How come fossils of domesticated pet animals are never found? After all, before humans had pets, who would have taken care of Rover? All of these things could not happen if gene pools were to remain static over time. Evolution is a fact and a law. It happens every day, every hour, every minute, every second. And if you know how to look for it, the effects of evolution can be seen everywhere. No offense, but your definitions and thinking are a bit on the sloppy slide.

 

[OS]

"Believing in evolution is like believing an explosion in a typewriter factory can result in a non-abridged dictionary."

Too bad that this a poor qoute, made up solely to juxtapose evolution along side a rediculous example. Evolution will never say that any form of life will suddenly change into another form. Never. Evolution says that life will change only gradually. In fact the typewriter example is a far better analogy for a literal creation, since Genesis basically says that life suddenly appeared over a six day period. That is a far more like an "explosion" that evolution is.

 

[OS]

The evidence is stacked high AGAINST evolution. I'm surprised the schools have stripped out religion and forced evolution in its place...

No it isn't. Some books and propaganda like to say that to promote their own agenda, but the beauty of science is that if you don't believe what science says, you can verify it yourself. If you don't believe that evolution happens, run your own experiments. Since evolution says that gene pools will change, try to crosspollinate some similar plants. In fact this experiment has been done for hundreds of years, and ironically the textbook example was done by a Gregorian monk. What you will find is that if the plants are similar enough to crosspollinate, the off spring will hold traits of both the parent plants and yet will be unique when compared to either one. If the genes did not change here, I don't now what other possible explanation one could come up with other than magic.

 

[sandorski]

I don't think any of us would know how we would react to aliens. Let's face it, we would be affected how everyone else reacts. If mass hysteria or paranoia took hold, how well could any of us avoid getting caught up in it? It is for this reason that I think any intelligent, civilized, peaceful alien species wouldn't just show themselves, they would probably wait until we discovered them to avoid scaring us $h1tl3ss. If aliens did showup with great fanfare, I would be too suspicious of their intentions.

Would aliens be superior technologically? Not necessarily. If an alien race built a large ship with approx the tech level we now have, they could still travel large distances. It may take generations to do so, but it is feasable.