How will Trumpelstiltskin handle Cat 4 Harvey?

[Bitek]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cane-sandy-bill-had-nothing-to-do-with-sandy/

Some of that stuff, like money for a museum roof were for Sandy damage. It was a huge storm that brought lots of damage up and down the east coast. It didn't just affect NYC. The notion that the bill was filled with unrelated pork is patently false.

I'm sure lots of the claims are bullshit.

My point is that I don't even care if it wasn't directly due to Sandy, but was extra stuff that needed doing anyway.

As long as money isn't going to build decks on the back of senator's houses or preventing money got to those in need, it's just part of the political process.

It's sure not good enough reason to hold up money from ppl in need.

 

[Meghan54]

Found this article to be interesting:


House GOP eyeing $1B disaster funds cut to finance wall

"President Donald Trump is promising billions to help Texas rebuild from Harvey-caused epic flooding, but his Republican allies in the House are looking at cutting almost $1 billion from disaster accounts to help finance the president's border wall.


"The pending reduction to the Federal Emergency Management Agency's disaster relief account is part of a massive spending bill that the House is scheduled to consider next week when lawmakers return from their August recess. The $876 million cut, which is included in the 1,305-page measure's homeland security section, pays for roughly half the cost of Trump's down payment on the U.S.-Mexico border wall that the president repeatedly promised Mexico would finance.

"It seems sure that GOP leaders will move to reverse the disaster aid cut next week as floodwaters cover Houston, the nation's fourth-largest city, and tens of thousands of Texans have sought refuge in shelters. There's only $2.3 billion remaining in federal disaster coffer.

"Despite Trump's promise at a rally in Phoenix last week to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border even "if we have to close down our government," congressional Republicans are optimistic of averting a politically damaging shutdown after the fiscal year ends Sept. 30."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...nds-cut-to-finance-wall/ar-AAqZ1PK?li=BBnbfcQ

 

[Puffnstuff]

Yepper he's got his priorities in order doesn't he?

 

[pcgeek11]

Wait a second didn't your last post indicate Trump's behavior doesn't matter?

Let me clarify then. What I was responding "exactly" to was this:

"People are doing a good job of cooperating to help each other out and rendering assistance irrespective of political views is the moral and ethical thing to do."

It doesn't matter what Trump says or the political hacks such as your self says about any of this. I watched the media today stressing about Melania's shoes for Christ sake. The important part is help is there and they are getting the job done.

 

[Puffnstuff]

It doesn't matter what Trump says or the political hacks such as your self says about any of this. I watched the media today stressing about Melania's shoes for Christ sake. The important part is help is there and they are getting the job done.

All true but he isn't helping matters any by trying to associate storm aid and his personal agenda. Besides those stilts she was wearing still wouldn't keep her feet dry in that water.

 

[pcgeek11]

All true but he isn't helping matters any by trying to associate storm aid and his personal agenda. Besides those stilts she was wearing still wouldn't keep her feet dry in that water.

Nothing would keep your feet dry in the amount of water they have in Texas.

IMO Trump could sell cotton candy on the roadside leading into Houston and I would not care as long as the Feds provide the aid needed to these people.

These people do not want to have their picture taken with the President giving them a hug. They want assistance to get through this mess. Most of those Photo Op pictures you see ( Obama picture hugging ) are just set up photo op pictures designed to play on the public sympathy.

 

[Puffnstuff]

These people do not want to have their picture taken with the President giving them a hug. They want assistance to get through this mess. Most of those Photo Op pictures you see ( Obama picture hugging ) are just set up photo op pictures designed to play on the public sympathy.

Its more than that brother, people need positive psychological assurance from their leaders that personal contact provides and President Obama had the ability to communicate effectively. Trump is rich, isolates himself in his wealth and has a track record of not caring for other people which is quite public these days. It's not the same as someone like Bill Gates who is a well known philanthropist coming to visit with you in your hour of need.

 

[pcgeek11]

Its more than that brother, people need positive psychological assurance from their leaders that personal contact provides and President Obama had the ability to communicate effectively. Trump is rich, isolates himself in his wealth and has a track record of not caring for other people which is quite public these days. It's not the same as someone like Bill Gates who is a well known philanthropist coming to visit with you in your hour of need.

I'll just say I disagree here as far as I am concerned anyway. I don't want the president hugging up on me for a photo op in my hour of misery.

 

[HomerJS]

Let me clarify then. What I was responding "exactly" to was this:

"People are doing a good job of cooperating to help each other out and rendering assistance irrespective of political views is the moral and ethical thing to do."

It doesn't matter what Trump says or the political hacks such as your self says about any of this. I watched the media today stressing about Melania's shoes for Christ sake. The important part is help is there and they are getting the job done.

That's Mr. Hack to you numbnuts. Who gives a crap about the mail order bride in chief's shoes but I do give a crap about a President who cares so little for people he refused to meet with flood victims.

I also give a crap Trump is using the office of the President to hawk products that will fatten his wallet aka those stupid fucking hats.

 

[HomerJS]

I'll just say I disagree here as far as I am concerned anyway. I don't want the president hugging up on me for a photo op in my hour of misery.

That's your choice. You can stay under your bridge. However in times of national tragedy the President is supposed to be a comforter. Trump is incapable of having feelings for people outside his immediate family.

 

[Puffnstuff]

That's your choice. You can stay under your bridge. However in times of national tragedy the President is supposed to be a comforter. Trump is incapable of having feelings for people outside his immediate family.

Well said brother and everyone should become familiar with Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

 

[brycejones]

That's your choice. You can stay under your bridge. However in times of national tragedy the President is supposed to be a comforter. Trump is incapable of having feelings for people outside his immediate family.

And what feelings he does have are creepy as hell. Mr. wants to bang his daughter.

 

[HomerJS]

Despite our Turd in Chief being a dick to Mexico, they are doing us a solid. This is far more then others would get from Trump.

Mexico Offers Aid to Texas After Hurricane Harvey

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexico-offers-aid-texas-hurricane-203213330.html

 

[Jhhnn]

All true but he isn't helping matters any by trying to associate storm aid and his personal agenda. Besides those stilts she was wearing still wouldn't keep her feet dry in that water.

That's bullshit. Melania wore heels when she left the Whitehouse, not when she got off the plane in Houston-

https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1920w/B...53c66a-bc9dd55ca64845258d2fca004253c66a-0.jpg

We'd all do well to avoid petty chickenshit sniping, particularly when it's not true. It tends to discredit honest criticism.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That's bullshit. Melania wore heels when she left the Whitehouse, not when she got off the plane in Houston-

https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1920w/B...53c66a-bc9dd55ca64845258d2fca004253c66a-0.jpg

We'd all do well to avoid petty chickenshit sniping, particularly when it's not true. It tends to discredit honest criticism.

Well said

 

[zinfamous]

That's bullshit. Melania wore heels when she left the Whitehouse, not when she got off the plane in Houston-

https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1920w/B...53c66a-bc9dd55ca64845258d2fca004253c66a-0.jpg

We'd all do well to avoid petty chickenshit sniping, particularly when it's not true. It tends to discredit honest criticism.

uhoh...he who shall not be named is about to show up here and call you an enabler.

 

[zinfamous]

There is nothing to fear, but Fear itself
Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country
I did it for the ratings.

 

[Puffnstuff]

That's bullshit. Melania wore heels when she left the Whitehouse, not when she got off the plane in Houston-

https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1920w/B...53c66a-bc9dd55ca64845258d2fca004253c66a-0.jpg

We'd all do well to avoid petty chickenshit sniping, particularly when it's not true. It tends to discredit honest criticism.

Your post proves just how uptight you really are so relax and lower your blood pressure.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Big bills require horse trading. I'm not from Texas. I want to help out, but we also need some traction on getting money to fix some bridges and numerous other things around here that have been left undone. I hope my Senators and Congress critters can do their magic for their people too and we all walk away with something. Don't want to play? Well we're not the dipshits who built on a floodplain and decided not to have zoning laws...

Humanitarian aid to our own citizens should not require horse trading. Mandatory upkeep or fixing of major infrastructure should not require horse trading. These are the most basic functions of government. If our government can't manage to do those things with out blackmailing the taxpayers to the tune of billions of dollars then I can't see why we need this government at all. It would be better to burn it all down and start over.

 

[K1052]

Apparently the Freedom Caucus has told the leadership not to attach Harvey aid to the debt ceiling bill.

September is going to be a crazy crazy month.

 

[jmagg]

That's bullshit. Melania wore heels when she left the Whitehouse, not when she got off the plane in Houston-

https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1920w/B...53c66a-bc9dd55ca64845258d2fca004253c66a-0.jpg

We'd all do well to avoid petty chickenshit sniping, particularly when it's not true. It tends to discredit honest criticism.

Damn right. When both sides lie or spin half the time, few believe anything.

 

[Jhhnn]

Damn right. When both sides lie or spin half the time, few believe anything.

Yes, it's important for Trump critics to be accurate & non-petty to avoid false equivalency like your own.

Here's another example of pissant journalism-

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/21/i...-starts-dressing-like-hes-in-the-white-house/

 

[Jhhnn]

uhoh...he who shall not be named is about to show up here and call you an enabler.

I broke down & put him on ignore after entreaties from fellow forum members. It's the only time I've done that in all my years of being here. Trolling the troll was amusing but I had to let it go.

 

[shortylickens]

No seriously, has Donald blamed anyone yet?

 

[Meghan54]

Now for dumbass of the day, I give you Eric Trump:

Eric Trump predicts CNN won't cover Trump Harvey donation hours after network report

"President Trump's son Eric Trump tweeted on Thursday that CNN wouldn't report on his father's pledge to donate $1 million to Hurricane Harvey relief efforts.

"'So proud!!! Let's see if @CNN or the #MSM acknowledges this incredible generosity. My guess: they won't... ' Eric Trump tweeted with a link to a Fox News story.

Three hours earlier, CNN tweeted its coverage of Trump's pledge, which was announced during Thursday's White House press briefing."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rs-after-network-report/ar-AAr3XYu?li=BBnbcA1