How well does Xbox S work as a 4k blu ray player ?

[you2]

I'm not sure this is the best way to do things but I hooked the xbox up to the tv and the tv then sends the audio to the receiver. Is there a reason why the xbox should be hooked up directly to the receiver ?

 

[XSoldier77X]

Check out these shots. do they help? plugging in the audio cable directly into the tv doesn't result in any sound, i've tried it in the past with rocksmith 2014

 

[cmdrdredd]

I'm not sure this is the best way to do things but I hooked the xbox up to the tv and the tv then sends the audio to the receiver. Is there a reason why the xbox should be hooked up directly to the receiver ?

If you are using hdmi and go from the tv to the avr then you are getting lower quality audio and cannot use Atmos or dts:x. Going through the avr will allow ou to use these formats.

HOWEVER....if your avr does not pass through HDR and your TV does HDR then do NOT run the Xbox through the avr and then to the TV. You will lose HDR.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Check out these shots. do they help? plugging in the audio cable directly into the tv doesn't result in any sound, i've tried it in the past with rocksmith 2014

It depends on the tv and avr. If you can use ARC or you run optical from the tv then it will work for audio that way. Just be aware that if you want hdr video and your avr does not pass hdr through then you cannot get hdr by plugging the Xbox into the avr directly. Also if you go through the tv you lose the ability to use lossless audio from movies.

 

[PeterScott]

It depends on the tv and avr. If you can use ARC or you run optical from the tv then it will work for audio that way. Just be aware that if you want hdr video and your avr does not pass hdr through then you cannot get hdr by plugging the Xbox into the avr directly. Also if you go through the tv you lose the ability to use lossless audio from movies.

If you are using optical, you lose the ability for lossless audio whether you go through the TV or not.

Though I would wonder if going through the TV first causes any additional delay.

My original questions was because I have an old receiver with no HDMI inputs and would need to use optical for sound.

 

[cmdrdredd]

If you are using optical, you lose the ability for lossless audio whether you go through the TV or not.

Though I would wonder if going through the TV first causes any additional delay.

My original questions was because I have an old receiver with no HDMI inputs and would need to use optical for sound.

I was just saying that if you want hdr video and your avr can't pass it through then you have to go to the tv with your hdmi connection.

You have two options for optical only.
1) Xbox > tv > optical > avr
2) Xbox hdmi > tv + Xbox optical > avr (the preferred way)

 

[Aikouka]

I ended up buying a new TV after mine started malfunctioning, and since I got one with all the fancy new technology, I figured I had to get a proper player to go with it! I ended up picking up an Xbox One S as a HDR 4K Blu-Ray player, but it is a little disappointing that it lacks Dolby Vision. Unfortunately, at this time, the only players to support it are Oppo's pricey options ($500+), and I think LG has one coming for a slightly nicer $400.

While that may seem like a detriment, I finally found that my issues didn't end there after I got everything setup last night. I went to the TV information page, and the X1S told me that my TV was 4K capable, and that was about it. Originally, I figured that maybe something was off on my receiver (a Denon X3300, which is quite capable of all the features), but I don't think that's the case. When I installed all my wires in the wall, I purchased an in-wall rated cable that listed itself as being HDMI 2.0-compliant, but little did I know that did not mean that it supports all HDMI 2.0 features (e.g. HDR). I ended up buying a high-end Blue Jeans Cable 15-foot HDMI cable. They have their high-end (Series 1) cables certified up to 25 feet for 18Gbps transfer and are in-wall rated, so I should be fine with a 15-foot in-wall cable and two smaller cables (AVR to in-wall and in-wall to TV).

I've got a couple HDR movies to check out, so I hope this change works!

 

[cmdrdredd]

Cables are very important. It's a very common issue for members on avs forum when they are setting up new equipment. Hopefully you will be ok, the blue jean cables are hdmi premium certified I believe which is all but guaranteed to work at the full 18Gbps.

 

[Aikouka]

Cables are very important. It's a very common issue for members on avs forum when they are setting up new equipment. Hopefully you will be ok, the blue jean cables are hdmi premium certified I believe which is all but guaranteed to work at the full 18Gbps.

Yeah, I'm not as worried about the BJC cable, but more so that there are three cables also passing through two keystones. The keystones shouldn't really have an effect as there's no actual wire there -- they're really just a coupler. However, the other two wires will increase the total distance from 15 feet to 20 feet. I ordered a 2-foot Tartan HDMI cable (BJC's lower-end cable) to go from the TV box to the TV, and I'll likely try a 3-foot Amazon Basics cable from the AVR to the wall plate.

 

[you2]

Hum. I have xbox -> (hdmi) -> tv -> (optical) avr - so it sounds like there is no value of xbox -> (optical) avr and since the tv is hdr (reason for buying the xbox as a blu ray player); xbox -> (hdmi) avr is probably a no no. The avr was given to me - it is an oppo but an older model. It might have hdmi on the back but it predates hdr.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Hum. I have xbox -> (hdmi) -> tv -> (optical) avr - so it sounds like there is no value of xbox -> (optical) avr and since the tv is hdr (reason for buying the xbox as a blu ray player); xbox -> (hdmi) avr is probably a no no. The avr was given to me - it is an oppo but an older model. It might have hdmi on the back but it predates hdr.

Best bet is run hdmi to the tv and get hdr video and use optical to the avr directly and get audio. This way you bypass any potential processing or delay from the tv.

 

[Aikouka]

Hum. I have xbox -> (hdmi) -> tv -> (optical) avr - so it sounds like there is no value of xbox -> (optical) avr and since the tv is hdr (reason for buying the xbox as a blu ray player); xbox -> (hdmi) avr is probably a no no. The avr was given to me - it is an oppo but an older model. It might have hdmi on the back but it predates hdr.

Yeah, your current setup is likely the best setup. The only negative is that you're limited to basic Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS, which means that you can't get DTS HD Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD much less Dolby Atmos or DTS:X.

 

[Aikouka]

So, I've been using the Xbox One S as a 4K HDR player, and in the end, I gave up on it. The disc drive is far too loud in my open-air setup, and the Xbox One S has an issue with random playback slowdown. I saw it happen twice during The Magnificent Seven and once during Sicario. It's completely random as rewinding does not cause it to happen again. I ended up buying a Sony X800 instead, which is unfortunate, because it literally costs as much as an Xbox One S (for just a movie player) and it doesn't even support Dolby Vision. For that option, I'd have to double the price, and go with the Oppo UDP-203.

 

[cmdrdredd]

So, I've been using the Xbox One S as a 4K HDR player, and in the end, I gave up on it. The disc drive is far too loud in my open-air setup, and the Xbox One S has an issue with random playback slowdown. I saw it happen twice during The Magnificent Seven and once during Sicario. It's completely random as rewinding does not cause it to happen again. I ended up buying a Sony X800 instead, which is unfortunate, because it literally costs as much as an Xbox One S (for just a movie player) and it doesn't even support Dolby Vision. For that option, I'd have to double the price, and go with the Oppo UDP-203.

The LG UHD BR player supports Dolby vision now thanks to a firmware update. It's $240 and the philips 7502 also supports Dolby vision and it's about $200. There are options. Though Dolby vision discs have some weird issues with elevated black levels in certain scenes. The encoder has a bug that Dolby is going to have to fix. All players do it so there's no end user fix.

 

[Aikouka]

The LG UHD BR player supports Dolby vision now thanks to a firmware update. It's $240 and the philips 7502 also supports Dolby vision and it's about $200. There are options. Though Dolby vision discs have some weird issues with elevated black levels in certain scenes. The encoder has a bug that Dolby is going to have to fix. All players do it so there's no end user fix.

Hm, I can't seem to find a single mention of the Philips 7502 on their site. I can find their 5502, which is the 7502 without Dolby Vision. But I did find the UP970, which according to comments, received an update a few days ago for Dolby Vision. That's a bit annoying as the last time I searched for Dolby Vision-compatible players, I only ever found people talking about the Oppo... not even a mention of the upcoming firmware update for the LG player.

Although, I'm a bit worried that my Sony X800 might be bad. (Yes, I appear to be cursed with all that's 4K HDR.) I was setting it up yesterday, and I saw something that I haven't seen in years on a TV.... white static. It was the weirdest thing. I was scrolling through the settings, and all of a sudden, the screen was full of static -- just like if you had to go adjust the antenna. I had to power cycle my receiver to fix the problem. I have a feeling my receiver (Denon X3300) has issues and my TV's HDMI3 port is malfunctioning. I'm already returning the X3300 and replacing it with an X4300, and I talked to Best Buy about getting a replacement TV.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Not sure on the static thing. HDMI can be problematic with UHD at times.

There was mention of the LG firmware update but really it was hidden away on forums for the most part. I think LG mentioned they would update it before it launched but beyond that I didn't see them mention it directly in an easy to locate spot.

As for the Philips player. (Amazon $219) https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDP7502_F7/4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player#see-all-benefits