How to succeed in US business

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BoberFett

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Let's make this simple. Which is easier, criminalizing unethical business practices, or doing something, anything, to make the whole population of consumers gain say 20 IQ points? We regulate against unethical business practices because we *can*. We can't do anything about consumer stupidity.

- wolf

Again, because you apparently fall into that low IQ category, regulation stifles new business more than it hinders the unethical. Criminal law can already handle swindlers and you don't need millions of unintelligible laws to do it.
 

Ozoned

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So, what is the difference between exploiting a little bit and exploiting a lot?
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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So, what is the difference between exploiting a little bit and exploiting a lot?
You'll know you've passed it when the general public feels threatened and complains to their congressmen.
If congress passes a law to prevent you from butt fucking the people, then you will definitely know you've gone too far.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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You'll know you've passed it when the general public feels threatened and complains to their congressmen.
If congress passes a law to prevent you from butt fucking the people, then you will definitely know you've gone too far.
Guaranteed, since they'll complain long before a law is passed by the time one is passed you absolutely can be 100% sure you are a butt fvcker of the public.
 

woolfe9999

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Mar 28, 2005
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Again, because you apparently fall into that low IQ category, regulation stifles new business more than it hinders the unethical. Criminal law can already handle swindlers and you don't need millions of unintelligible laws to do it.

I am of the "low IQ variety" because I don't buy into simple-minded ideological generalizations like "regulation stifles business more than it hinders the unethical." Yeah anyone who doesn't accept the parroting of a political mantra as some kind of received wisdom is low IQ. Gotcha.

- wolf
 

Double Trouble

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Oct 9, 1999
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Let's make this simple. Which is easier, criminalizing unethical business practices, or doing something, anything, to make the whole population of consumers gain say 20 IQ points? We regulate against unethical business practices because we *can*. We can't do anything about consumer stupidity.

- wolf

You missed the crux of the argument. Changing business practices in an attempt to protect the stupid from getting fleeced won't work anyway. You don't think businesses will simply find another way to achieve the same thing? As long as consumers are stupid and will fall for tricks and will then turn around and provide their consumer dollars to the same company again, the consumer will continue to get fleeced. It's like sports fans that whine about ticket prices. As long as people keep paying the crazy ticket prices, they will continue to go up. The *only* defense that works is consumers voting with their wallets.
 
Oct 16, 1999
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As evidenced by the video, when a Harvard contract law professor is relegated to "stupid" consumer status by current business practices, something is wrong beyond just stupid consumers.
 

shira

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Yep, but when you are of average knowledge/intelligence and others who are experts are being paid to deliberately deceive you out of money it gets at some point beyond the point where it's really your fault. E.g. you sign a contract and the company that wrote it has a law firm on retainer that wrote the 15 page thing. Are you really going to hire your own lawyer for $1000 to read every single contract you sign? So much legalese it's ridiculous.

And it likely wouldn't help even if you did hire a lawyer.

My experience with lawyers is that they're routinely incompetent when asked to go beyond cookie-cutter stuff. I ALWAYS find mistakes in the contracts they write and the legal opinions they give.

I'm not saying that lawyers are worthless - far from it. But what I've found is that lawyers are "excellent" at what they do only when it's something they've done over and over and over again. Introduce anything new to the mix - like reviewing a complex, 15-page contract they've never seen before - and they foul up.
 

heyheybooboo

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Jun 29, 2007
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No, I just get tired of dishonesty, and the "liberals" in this forum take dishonesty to levels that would make Karl Rove jealous.

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Way to marginalize yourself ...




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