How to destroy America.

[bootymac]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Latina girls are hot and I welcome them to America, even if they can't speak a word of English.

Only post here I fully understand

 

[ReiAyanami]

This is money that pours out of the US into Mexico, and they get it for free.

so that money never comes back? so what you're saying is we get free services and don't have to pay for them?

they take all the "!@$#" jobs that no one else wants to do.

this nation was built on immigration. from the 1600's on. its vast success comes from the continual influx of ppl who work hard, and work smart.
the key is to keep importing all the smart ppl, the only problem is we can't export dumb ppl.

 

[jagr10]

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo
Just in case you people aren't properly pissed off about the situation, read this:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/business/0308/30/business-258091.htm
Mexico's second largest source of income is money sent home by Mexican's working in the US. This isn't trade. This is money that pours out of the US into Mexico, and they get it for free.

Ya, but don't forget that some Americans choose to pay some Mexicans very little (below minimum wage) for labour and don't hire other Americans for minimum wage. So as long as you have people encouraging this you'll always have money going out. The whole purpose of coming to America for alot of them is to send money back home.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: amoeba
I agree with the article that to maintain a diverse, peaceful, and prosperous society is very difficult. However, articles like this antagonizes and makes the aforementioned goal impossible.

in america's history, the same things have been said over and over again. every century or so, its a new group. first it was the germans, then the italians, then the irish. its stupid. america is still around and will continue to be. differences will just become a part of american culture just like every other group.

I'm sure the Romans thought the Roman Empire would be around forever too.

 

[bigalt]

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo
Just in case you people aren't properly pissed off about the situation, read this:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/business/0308/30/business-258091.htm
Mexico's second largest source of income is money sent home by Mexican's working in the US. This isn't trade. This is money that pours out of the US into Mexico, and they get it for free.

if by free you mean in the form of underpaid labour, then you're right.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: bigalt

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo
Just in case you people aren't properly pissed off about the situation, read this:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/business/0308/30/business-258091.htm
Mexico's second largest source of income is money sent home by Mexican's working in the US. This isn't trade. This is money that pours out of the US into Mexico, and they get it for free.

if by free you mean in the form of underpaid labour, then you're right.

It is actually a bit more complicated than that. Right before the DC snipers were caught there was a Central American arrested using a pay phone being staked out by police in the Richmond area after a sniper shooting in Ashland, VA. This poor guy had the unfortunate luck to have a white mini van that police were on the look out for as being a suspect vehicle in that shooting. It turned out this guy was an illegal immigrant. His story was never really followed because of the much larger sniper events and subsequent capture but a Washington Post reporter did follow up on it and wrote a piece that eventually appeared in the Post's Sunday magazine.

To sum up what was actually a long, interesting, and detailed article this guy was at the pay phone calling his wife in Central America using a calling card. He had borrowed a large sum of cash from a family member in his country to pay a mule to get him into the states. Once here he quickly found a job in the DC area construction trades making $8.00 an hour roofing houses. Minimum wage is currently $5.15 so he was making above minimum. Even with sending money back home to support his family and pay off the loan he used to get here he was able to set aside enough cash to get the old Dodge Caravan he had when he was apprehended. After his arrest he was turned over to the INS and subsequently deported. He has every intention of coming back because even with the risks the money he can make here while seemingly trivial to us is a fortune to him.

 

[Coquito]

Originally posted by: DigDug

How is it paranoid drivel? The point that a society's eventual death when lacking some sort of homogeneity as a unfying thread is a repeated historical fact. I'm a minority myself, and quickly realized this myself - while it is perhaps sutainable when there are only inconsequential amounts of minorities, the rise of a sizable minority, or existence of multiple minorities that stand as an equivalent in the aggregate, results in social breakdown. The stability of a society IS the existence of a supreme force that keeps things in line. Like it or not, that's how the world has ALWAYS worked. Competing forces of any significant strenght WILL cause a revolution or at least destabilize the society in some way.

How can we celebrate diversirty and unity at the same time? Perhaps only if the elements of diversity are kept second to a national identity. But this is not the case. Blacks have their own makeshift culture, created in response to their exclusion from the white mainstream for so long, and other more recent immigrants, for the most part - although there are some like my family who embrace America as our home, with deferential respect to India - live here as "squatters" - living and working off this land, yet aligning themselves with the country they left. And why? I ask - if your motherland was so perfect, why did you leave? There is nothing wrong with wanting a better life, but then give credit and allegiance to the country that has granted this to you.

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Not true. Read about the Melting Pot of New York. Most of them learned English and embraced it. They kept their traditions while also adopting the new traditions of their new homeland without trying to change it. They actually added to it instead of wanting to change it. That is the fundamental difference now.

Originally posted by: Linflas

Good points but there is one major difference today from the examples of Little Italy or Chinatown. No italians or chinese came out of those ghettos (in the old sense of a ghetto) expecting society at large to cater to them in their language. In fact the reason they clustered in those ghettos was to survive while they learned the language and skills necessary to live in their adopted homeland.

Originally posted by: DurocShark

If you think about it, American/US culture (sic) is unlike ANY culture ANYWHERE else on the planet. Canada is close because of its proximity to the US, Australia is similar due to the similar situation (large available land mass, primarily European gene pool, etc).

Our culture evolved BECAUSE of the immigrants coming here and "going native". While they embrace the existing culture, they also add their way of thinking, bits of culture that are easily absorbed by unrelated peoples, etc. When a group decides to stay separate, they also exclude the rest of us from sharing in their culture. THIS is what causes tension. THIS is what causes friction. THIS is what causes rifts within the nation.

As long as the minority and the majority insist on viewing things from a separatist point of view, things will never become properly merged into the UNITED States of America.

:beer::beer::beer::beer:

 

[UNCjigga]

All I know is that if you take the Mexicans out of California, our grocery prices will skyrocket. Cheap produce is something all Americans can enjoy thanks to the migrant worker system. Without it, prices will be the same as they are in Europe.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Isn't "diversity" a wonderful disease? America caught the diversity bug some time ago, and that shall be her undoing.
United we stand, divided we fall.

 

[Zebo]

Nice playing of the race card. We have the most liberal immigration policies in the world try Japan if you want white supremisist who kicks out korean labor born and/or living for decades when they have no more use for them... all we need is to import assets not liabilites... who cares about race/culture.

What's destroying america is the selfishness causing extreme poverty justaposed to great wealth causing us third world feudalism and all that goes with the third world shitholes. I've been to a number of SE Asian countries, including the Phillipines and China, and honestly the levels of poverty in the USA match them. This pure capitalistic attitude is a harsh regime. If you're on the right side of the crest, you'll be riding high. Fall on the wrong side and deep despair follows. Can a society be so callous as to think that it is wrong to help one's fellow human beings? We're not talking about pure socialism here. We're talking about Australia/NZ/Japan/W. Europe which is a strongly capitalistic nation with socialistic undertones that works very well. What is ripping America apart is the fact that the capitalists have fought tooth and nail to NOT make the real leap to such a system instead giving half-hearted attempts.

 

[BassDominator]

Originally posted by: DigDug
There is nothing wrong with wanting a better life, but then give credit and allegiance to the country that has granted this to you.

Amen!

 

[xEDIT409]

This reminded me of a Maddox Article:

Oops! You're a Racist.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Nice playing of the race card. We have the most liberal immigration policies in the world try Japan if you want white supremisist who kicks out korean labor born and/or living for decades when they have no more use for them... all we need is to import assets not liabilites... who cares about race/culture.

What's destroying america is the selfishness causing extreme poverty justaposed to great wealth causing us third world feudalism and all that goes with the third world shitholes. I've been to a number of SE Asian countries, including the Phillipines and China, and honestly the levels of poverty in the USA match them. This pure capitalistic attitude is a harsh regime. If you're on the right side of the crest, you'll be riding high. Fall on the wrong side and deep despair follows. Can a society be so callous as to think that it is wrong to help one's fellow human beings? We're not talking about pure socialism here. We're talking about Australia/NZ/Japan/W. Europe which is a strongly capitalistic nation with socialistic undertones that works very well. What is ripping America apart is the fact that the capitalists have fought tooth and nail to NOT make the real leap to such a system instead giving half-hearted attempts.

Yea, compare unemployment percentges and overall economic power and you can figure out how well that actually works.

 

[AvesPKS]

The bi-lingual argument is bunk. Belgium is bi-lingual.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: AvesPKS
The bi-lingual argument is bunk. Belgium is bi-lingual.

case closed.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Jigga
I dunno, most of what he mentions is already true in Canada, and they don't seem to be doing that bad.

*shakes head* In many ways Canada is in bad straits. We choose to define ourselves as a "cultural mosaic" instead of a "melting pot". What's resulted is a bunch of closed off ethnic communities littered all over the country - and we're not talking ghettos, these are actually well-paid immigrants coming to the country and finding that an imitation culture from back home is ready and waiting to swallow them up in Canada. The only hope we have is in the next generation, and I'm not too sure about us anymore either.

I'd like to see Canada move to a more nationalist-promoting culture. Getting rid of the rule that allows dual citizenship is, IMO, a good start. Choose Canada, or not. The in-betweens can be dangerous.

 

[nan0bug]

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!