How to destroy America.

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Got this email. Im 99.99% sure its fake but cant find any reference to it on snopes.


A point of view worth considering.........

A friend attended an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders.

A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. This writer sat in the audience spellbound by the eight methods of destruction of the United States.

He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said:!

"Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malyasia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: "Invent 'multi-culturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an America, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'"

Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault! of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other."

"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Gre! ece fell . In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. The profound silence allowed me to hear my heart beating. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserved to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as greedy corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It reminded me of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

I sat there as one of the most patriotic Americans I know, Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.
 

MrDudeMan

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wow, good points. should be in an interesting conversation.

edit: it may not all be true, but at least some of the stuff was valid. i dont know about the whole seminar thing, but the stuff in the actual article makes sense.
 

PanzerIV

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Sounds like some white supremacist has some wonderful writing skills...other than that looks like some serious paranoid drivel.
 

illustri

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why do people foward crap like this, i would really hate to be on your corespondence list
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: illustri
why do people foward crap like this, i would really hate to be on your corespondence list


hehehe, i didnt and dont forward this stuff. I just post it for all of you noobs to read. :lips:
 

DorkBoy

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I fully agree.
We are destroying ourselves, AL Gayda is nothing compared to what our own soiety is doing to itself.

All nations rise and fall, history will repeat itself.
 

amoeba

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I agree with the article that to maintain a diverse, peaceful, and prosperous society is very difficult. However, articles like this antagonizes and makes the aforementioned goal impossible.
 

DigDug

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How is it paranoid drivel? The point that a society's eventual death when lacking some sort of homogeneity as a unfying thread is a repeated historical fact. I'm a minority myself, and quickly realized this myself - while it is perhaps sutainable when there are only inconsequential amounts of minorities, the rise of a sizable minority, or existence of multiple minorities that stand as an equivalent in the aggregate, results in social breakdown. The stability of a society IS the existence of a supreme force that keeps things in line. Like it or not, that's how the world has ALWAYS worked. Competing forces of any significant strenght WILL cause a revolution or at least destabilize the society in some way.

How can we celebrate diversirty and unity at the same time? Perhaps only if the elements of diversity are kept second to a national identity. But this is not the case. Blacks have their own makeshift culture, created in response to their exclusion from the white mainstream for so long, and other more recent immigrants, for the most part - although there are some like my family who embrace America as our home, with deferential respect to India - live here as "squatters" - living and working off this land, yet aligning themselves with the country they left. And why? I ask - if your motherland was so perfect, why did you leave? There is nothing wrong with wanting a better life, but then give credit and allegiance to the country that has granted this to you.

 

illustri

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: illustri
why do people foward crap like this, i would really hate to be on your corespondence list


hehehe, i didnt and dont forward this stuff. I just post it for all of you noobs to read. :lips:

hell even being on the receiving end would piss me off like no other, im sorry now that i took a minute to skim over it
 

Hammer

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Originally posted by: amoeba
I agree with the article that to maintain a diverse, peaceful, and prosperous society is very difficult. However, articles like this antagonizes and makes the aforementioned goal impossible.

in america's history, the same things have been said over and over again. every century or so, its a new group. first it was the germans, then the italians, then the irish. its stupid. america is still around and will continue to be. differences will just become a part of american culture just like every other group.
 

Siddhartha

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I find your cultural, racial, and ethnic paranoria to be intriguing and I want to subscribe to your newsletter.
 

illustri

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Originally posted by: DigDug
How is it paranoid drivel? The point that a society's eventual death when lacking some sort of homogeneity as a unfying thread is a repeated historical fact. I'm a minority myself, and quickly realized this myself - while it is perhaps sutainable when there are only inconsequential amounts of minorities, the rise of a sizable minority, or existence of multiple minorities that stand as an equivalent in the aggregate, results in social breakdown. The stability of a society IS the existence of a supreme force that keeps things in line. Like it or not, that's how the world has ALWAYS worked. Competing forces of any significant strenght WILL cause a revolution or at least destabilize the society in some way.

How can we celebrate diversirty and unity at the same time? Perhaps only if the elements of diversity are kept second to a national identity. But this is not the case. Blacks have their own makeshift culture, created in response to their exclusion from the white mainstream for so long, and other more recent immigrants, for the most part - although there are some like my family who embrace America as our home, with deferential respect to India - live here as "squatters" - living and working off this land, yet aligning themselves with the country they left. And why? I ask - if your motherland was so perfect, why did you leave? There is nothing wrong with wanting a better life, but then give credit and allegiance to the country that has granted this to you.

get out of my country now
 

UNCjigga

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I dunno, most of what he mentions is already true in Canada, and they don't seem to be doing that bad.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: amoeba
I agree with the article that to maintain a diverse, peaceful, and prosperous society is very difficult. However, articles like this antagonizes and makes the aforementioned goal impossible.

in america's history, the same things have been said over and over again. every century or so, its a new group. first it was the germans, then the italians, then the irish. its stupid. america is still around and will continue to be. differences will just become a part of american culture just like every other group.

Maybe so. but.... The scale of this is like Nothing that has been seen before. I cant even go into a a place to eat and not see spanish. Every fricken company i call for work has an option to hear the language in spanish. Hell last week i put a utility trailer for sale in a local paper and i had TWO people call about it and leave me a message in spanish!!! The difference is that those other cultures became americans, the mexicans want to remain mexicans while living in AMERICA.
 

FeathersMcGraw

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It's so obvious; the solution to all America's problems is uniformity and isolationism. Where do we sign up?
 

DigDug

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in america's history, the same things have been said over and over again. every century or so, its a new group. first it was the germans, then the italians, then the irish. its stupid. america is still around and will continue to be. differences will just become a part of american culture just like every other group.

Wrong. You fail to recognize one distinct difference. Skin color. THe germans, Irish, and iTalians all enjoyed the choice of complete assimilation for their second generation descendents, now that the accent was gone. Minorities of color will NEVER be able to assimilate into the American mainstream in the same way for reasons of prejudice and flat out racism that continue to exist. Therefore, the de-facto result then is for a minority to hold on to their prior national identity and give up on trying to assimilate. Now, this is only one avenue of the dynamic, and there are many Americans willing to embrace or at least accept such minoriities, but can't do so because of the minorities' unwillingness to assimilate in the first place. It goes back and forth.
 

DigDug

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The difference is that those other cultures became americans, the mexicans want to remain mexicans while living in AMERICA.

Ironically, California was stolen from the Mexicans, so perhaps its the other way around?