How to cook your BRAINS and POP CORN at the same time!

[SlickSnake]

Popcorn with the cell phone !

I like my brains sunny side up with fava beans and a nice chianti. :wine:

But I can tell most of you obviously just prefer scrambled. :Q

 

[Schfifty Five]

what the...is that real?

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
what the...is that real?

Stick some popcorn in your ear, and let us know, ok?

Actually, just stick the kernel behind your ear, so it don't accidently blow out your eardrum, just in case.

 

[Eli]

:Q

:laugh:

:Q

No fscking way. Right? RIGHT? :laugh::shocked:

 

[Cattlegod]

someone probably had a high power laser or a directional microwave bulb above the camera pointing down.

 

[AMDMaddness]

Fake.. even if all of those phones where 1watt GSM phones your looking at 4watts total. also the antenna pattern for those phones are omnidirectional so even then the corn wouldnt get full power from them. It takes how long for your 1000watt microwave to pop corn? a bunch of BS.

 

[PottedMeat]

Fake. And wouldn't they be in RX mode? Isn't the dipole pattern toroidal anyway so that even in transmit mode the top would have the least amount of radiation? Probably just a heater under the table.

 

[MrPickins]

It looks like they just edited the kernels out one by one as the "pop" and dropped a popped kernel onto the table from above.

Totally fake.

 

[SlickSnake]

So even if they did the test on an insulated concrete floor from a distance back sufficient to prove there are no laser or microwave generating devices aimed at the unpopped corn kernel or anything, you still wouldn't believe your own eyes because multiple people doing the test might decide to photo shop kernels of unpopped corn and replace them with popped kernels of corn?

So by that type of reasoning, if actual aliens landed a UFO in your yard and BBQed your dog with a ray gun, you would really think someone must have hypnotized you or photo shopped your brain or something to see something that wasn't really there?

Fluoride really DOES work wonders!

 

[bdude]

Fake. You fell for it.

 

[Chronoshock]

In the first video, one of the phones (I believe) is a samsung s105 which I owned before. I researched it a while ago and found it had one of the lowest peak energy outputs compared to other cellphones at the time

 

[Eeezee]

OP is a retard

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: AMDMaddness
Fake.. even if all of those phones where 1watt GSM phones your looking at 4watts total. also the antenna pattern for those phones are omnidirectional so even then the corn wouldn't get full power from them. It takes how long for your 1000watt microwave to pop corn? a bunch of BS.

For this reason, yes, fake.

1W of omnidirectional energy, at the source. The power then decreases exponentially as you move away from the phone. Each kernel would probably see a few milliwatts. Unless those guys also drastically changed the specific heat of water, and possibly a few other basic laws of physics and chemistry, that won't pop a kernel of corn, and likely wouldn't cause a measurable increase in temperature.

And hell, if they were that efficient, we wouldn't have 1000W microwaves, we'd have 10W cellphone transmitters to cook food.

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
So even if they did the test on an insulated concrete floor from a distance back sufficient to prove there are no laser or microwave generating devices aimed at the unpopped corn kernel or anything, you still wouldn't believe your own eyes because multiple people doing the test might decide to photo shop kernels of unpopped corn and replace them with popped kernels of corn?

So by that type of reasoning, if actual aliens landed a UFO in your yard and BBQed your dog with a ray gun, you would really think someone must have hypnotized you or photo shopped your brain or something to see something that wasn't really there?

Fluoride really DOES work wonders!

So how far away would they need to be such that no laser could be used? 5 miles?
Maybe if genuine scientists could do this in a controlled lab experiment, that might prove something, rather than a bunch of guys on some Youtube video.

Try spending less time learning BS/junk science, and come visit the land of reality. The laws of physics work a little differently here.

 

[SlickSnake]

From American Heritage:

"The NJRC tube brought a critical benefit to the oven. As Ironfield recalls, it had ?a very modest heater power, 65 watts.? And it was about 65 percent efficient, which made it fit into a 15-amp household circuit.?

Pretty tame compared to modern 1200 watt or more microwaves. Of course, some early microwave units consumed 3kW, too!

Now, just off the top of my pointy head, I would imagine the first megnetron tubes they were using for radar research and then oven research in the 1940s were most likely the 6kW magnetrons. But for a simple oven, that kind of wattage would be insane. Most likely they were doing early oven experiments in the 3kW range, but I could not confirm this anywhere.

The reason it takes longer on some microwaves than others to pop corn is more related to the way the individual magnetrons work and the oven designs. I had a small 800 watt unit that cooked food a lot faster than an older 1600 watt one I had.

You really need the increased power of a modern microwave oven only to cook large quantities of food more evenly, not to pop a few tiny kernels of corn.

Popcorn.Org

"Popcorn's ability to pop lies in the fact that the kernels contain a small amount of water stored in a circle of soft starch inside the hard outer casing. When heated, the water expands, creating pressure within, until eventually the casing gives way, and the kernels explode and pop, allowing the water to escape as steam, turning the kernels inside out."

Welcome to the laws of physics.

Someone sure needs a reality check or another dose of one all right.

I guess you all never noticed how warm your ears and head get after using a cell phone? They pointed out in the article with the videos they thought it could be popped due to the standing waves from the multiple cell phones proximity. And since none of us can confirm or deny this factor, how about a little less criticism of myself for simply posting this topic, fellow googtrogs?

 

[mjrpes3]

If the creators of those videos were trying to make the whole atmosphere seem real and authentic, they failed.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
I guess you all never noticed how warm your ears and head get after using a cell phone? They pointed out in the article with the videos they thought it could be popped due to the standing waves from the multiple cell phones proximity. And since none of us can confirm or deny this factor, how about a little less criticism of myself for simply posting this topic, fellow googtrogs?

Of course we can determine this for ourselves. There are a number of people on this board that are EEs, knowledgeable in antennas and electromagnetic waves. The tip of the antenna on the cell phone is a null. It should be a null, because it is wasteful to be sending power in the vertical direction, there wouldn't be a receiver directly above your head. As for the standing wave, you can't get a standing wave the way demonstrated. The wavelength is 12.2 cm but it's obvious that the cell phones are much closer than that. Plus, the phase of the signal matters for a correct resonance, but they just called each of the phones. And unlike a microwave, the cell phones do not present a resonant chamber. Energy builds up in a microwave because the radiation is being injected into a resonant chamber. Hell just for kicks, I just went and microwaved five kernels of popcorn for a minute. Got nothing, and I'm supposed to believe that a couple of cell phones pointing the nulls of their antenna at the targets are able to pop a few kernels in a matter of seconds?

 

[manlymatt83]

 

[Mahaguru]

The videos seem like an experienced camera person trying to fake a newbie. Just based on that, I would say it is some kind of viral advertising campaign.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
OP is a retard

QFT

 

[FP]

I totally believe it... Have you seen the what lies dormant inside cell phones?

I have... and it scares me

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
I guess you all never noticed how warm your ears and head get after using a cell phone? They pointed out in the article with the videos they thought it could be popped due to the standing waves from the multiple cell phones proximity. And since none of us can confirm or deny this factor, how about a little less criticism of myself for simply posting this topic, fellow googtrogs?

Of course we can determine this for ourselves. There are a number of people on this board that are EEs, knowledgeable in antennas and electromagnetic waves. The tip of the antenna on the cell phone is a null. It should be a null, because it is wasteful to be sending power in the vertical direction, there wouldn't be a receiver directly above your head. As for the standing wave, you can't get a standing wave the way demonstrated. The wavelength is 12.2 cm but it's obvious that the cell phones are much closer than that. Plus, the phase of the signal matters for a correct resonance, but they just called each of the phones. And unlike a microwave, the cell phones do not present a resonant chamber. Energy builds up in a microwave because the radiation is being injected into a resonant chamber. Hell just for kicks, I just went and microwaved five kernels of popcorn for a minute. Got nothing, and I'm supposed to believe that a couple of cell phones pointing the nulls of their antenna at the targets are able to pop a few kernels in a matter of seconds?

I can pop a whole bag in less that 2 minutes, on my low power one. It also uses a rotating platter. I had older microwaves with high power with large dead spots in the oven and plates had to be turned 4 or 5 times to get even heating. I have not tried a few kernels, BUT I know a lot of microwaves vary the power to the magnetrons to simulate even heating. One older one I had obviously phased up and down, and you could see it in the fluctuating light bulb. And some do not run at full power until they have been on for a full minute or so, I guess to help save the magnetron from prematurely breaking or burning out from sudden high heating. The one I have now does not seem to heat unless it has been on for at least 45 seconds or so. Then the light flickers a bit, so I presume it starts working at full power.

As far as the cellphones go, they obviously have the capacity to transmit over great distances for such a lowly stated wattage. And I think they also share one other factor in common with the microwaves in that they appear to vary the power to the transmitter
while in use. On some phones I have used in the same location, this is obvious as the signal meter goes up and down, all while remaining perfectly still, even if the phone is lying on a flat surface. Not being a cellphone engineer, this may be done to initially capture the signal from the tower before the phone is answered, like locking on to it. This would make any power output claims on these phones a bit bogus if they are only giving us the lower possible power outputs. Another example is some people I know have phones that seem to regularly rise and fall in strength no matter where they are when I call them. So based on this some combos of phones may be more apt to pop corn than others based on these variable power outputs.

And when multiple phones are lying flat against a surface, depending on the surface they are on, like glass, metal or wood, it might intensify this rising and falling power output effect.

Of course, this is all just observation on my part about the various devices in question, if the videos are fake, that's it then. I may try this test in a week or so when I get the chance and report back on the results I get.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Eeezee
OP is a retard

QFT

It must be true, otherwise why would I hang out with a bunch of juvenile jackasses like yourselves.

 

[So]

:laugh:

That is laughably fake. Come on, slick snake...do you fall for every oil bearing your name?

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: binister
I totally believe it... Have you seen the what lies dormant inside cell phones?

I have... and it scares me

That was pretty scary.

Almost as scary as daring to post anything in this mad cow tainted loony bin. :shocked:

 

[SlickSnake]

Guys, for real, WTF do you think? Come on, don't hold back your feelings or anything.

If it was posted on you tube, It's most likely been faked. But I have not tried it for myself, so any ideas I may have about it could be entirely wrong. I just haven't seen any valid criticisms to completely discount it yet, just a bunch of smoke blown up my ass. And while I enjoy the attention, it's getting pretty windy back there. :laugh: