maybe go a little over budget and get a 4200 and you're set.
bold and italicized for the visually impaired.
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Memory: 256 MB DDR SDRAM 266MHz (1 DIMM) + Windows XP = JUNK for MS Flight also... now you're up to $150 extra to fix up that computer so it's able to run games... that's the problem... he's set his price limit so low that he can't get anything better than what he's got.
buy the dell and upgrade the video card.
if he's not 100% in favor of you building him a system, DON'T DO IT!!!
let him call India every time he has a problem, not you.
if he's not 100% in favor of you building him a system, DON'T DO IT!!!
let him call India every time he has a problem, not you.
maybe i'm the one with the vision problem, but where exactly do you see $150 extra? the only thing you need is a $70 ti4200 (even less if you buy it used.) 256mb of ram is already included in the configuration above. with the price of $440 that only puts you $10 over your limit. woohoo, big deal. and winXP = junk for ms flight? yah ok buddy. let's see....microsoft made their latest flight simulator so that it COULDN'T work properly on their latest operating system. sure.
here are the sys specs required, straight from microsoft:
Windows PC
2000/XP ? 128 MB Ram
98/Me ? 64 MB Ram
Processor:450 MHz minimum
Available hard drive space:1.8 GB
DirectX 9 or later (included with Microsoft Flight Simulator: A Century of Flight)
Video card: 8 MB/3D with DirectX 7.0 or later drivers
Other: mouse, joystick/yoke, sound card, speakers/headphones
Online/multiplayer: 56.6 kbps modem or LAN
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OutHouse
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System Requirements for Flight Sim 2004: Windows PC, 2000/XP ? 128 MB Ram, 98/Me ? 64 MB Ram, Processor:450 MHz minimum. Available hard drive space:1.8 GB, Video card: 8 MB/3D with DirectX 7.0 or later drivers, mouse, joystick/yoke, sound card, speakers/headphones Online/multiplayer: 56.6 kbps modem or LAN.
That Dell will more than handle flight sim 2004.
It seems to me that you are not going to listen to what anyone says here. Fine, be that way. It will be your problem when that hard drive that you put in goes, or the monitor has dead pixels, or the mouse becomes unplugged without his knowledge. Your ass will be over there.
Tell him like it is. For $500 he can get a decent functional office computer, and for $700 he can get one to play flgiht sim games. For $500 his emachien won't play flight sim, either. Buy a 4200 or whatever the latest Dell his, go with one of the lower Radeons and 512 MB RAM and ON-SITE, aka NOT MAIL-IN, support. If he is too cheap for that then tell him that he won't be able to play flight sims.
Supporting family PCs suck. Especially because they are looking for someone to help them and if you have to tell them to call individual component manufacturers, they will always blame another component. A Dell is a Dell is a Dell - just buy it and be done with it.
Appearantly you are new to this, but you aren't going to listen to what anyone says. You are just as bad as your uncle is in your pride. You complain he won't listen about how crappy e-machines are, and you want to build him a custom one, but you won't listen when everyone tells you that that's not a good idea, either. First of all, a custom-built PC WILL NOT COST ANYTHING LESS THAN A DELL WHEN THE DELL IS ON SALE. When Dell puts coupons and stuff on their web site, it doesn't cost any more than what you can build yourself, and in many cases, it will be cheaper. And if it breaks, you have ONE number you can tell HIM to call and they will take care of it. If you build it, you will have to do all of that.
Pot -> Kettle -> Black describes this thread very well.
Tell him like it is. For $500 he can get a decent functional office computer, and for $700 he can get one to play flgiht sim games. For $500 his emachien won't play flight sim, either. Buy a 4200 or whatever the latest Dell his, go with one of the lower Radeons and 512 MB RAM and ON-SITE, aka NOT MAIL-IN, support. If he is too cheap for that then tell him that he won't be able to play flight sims.
Supporting family PCs suck. Especially because they are looking for someone to help them and if you have to tell them to call individual component manufacturers, they will always blame another component. A Dell is a Dell is a Dell - just buy it and be done with it.
Appearantly you are new to this, but you aren't going to listen to what anyone says. You are just as bad as your uncle is in your pride. You complain he won't listen about how crappy e-machines are, and you want to build him a custom one, but you won't listen when everyone tells you that that's not a good idea, either. First of all, a custom-built PC WILL NOT COST ANYTHING LESS THAN A DELL WHEN THE DELL IS ON SALE. When Dell puts coupons and stuff on their web site, it doesn't cost any more than what you can build yourself, and in many cases, it will be cheaper. And if it breaks, you have ONE number you can tell HIM to call and they will take care of it. If you build it, you will have to do all of that.
Pot -> Kettle -> Black describes this thread very well.
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Oh my god people... do you not know that Windows XP requires more RAM than any other version of Windows?!?!?! Hence my equation
256 MB RAM + Windows XP = JUNK for MS Flight
MS Flight requires a lot of RAM to run properly... and if you believe the minimum specs printed on the box or the website are anywhere near what it takes to create a good gaming experience, you obviously don't play games.
256 MB RAM + Windows XP = JUNK for MS Flight
MS Flight requires a lot of RAM to run properly... and if you believe the minimum specs printed on the box or the website are anywhere near what it takes to create a good gaming experience, you obviously don't play games.
Demon-Xanth
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Scandisk, reg cleaner, defrag, ghost in that order. Either that or go hunting for drivers (I'm assuming you don't have a recovery disk)
/edit of course if you want to do it right it is clean install, I do a clean install about every 30-45 days (well I make an image of a clean install using drive image, then install programs on my computer and test them out, if I like them I put the image back on and add the program and update the image, keeps the system clean, and easy recovery.) but too many people these days look for the easy way out...
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Oh, by the way... does Dell sell computers WITHOUT monitors? His 19 inch Sony is just fine, and I doubt he'd even want to replace it... if I could find one without a monitor that would knock $50-100 off the price that might make it worth it even if I had to upgrade the RAM and video card.
*EDIT* Finally found a package that will let me choose no monitor.
*EDIT* Finally found a package that will let me choose no monitor.
Reread my goddamn message. The extra 256 MB costs like 40 bucks, tell him to quit being a cheapass. Like I siad, you are just as bad as your uncle.
we have a winner
you cannot beat dell for the price it is just not possible to beat some of the dell specials
and they are very nice computers as well
dullard
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Review of Microsoft Flight Sim 2004:
"Finally, we have not forgotten how many resources Combat Flight Simulator 3 needed, so it was with some apprehension that we ran the new Microsoft game. We were glad to find that the version we tested was smooth and stable on a "normal" machine (Athlon XP 1600+, GeForce 4200, 256 MB), so we suppose the developers have optimized the code correctly."
Seems like 256 MB is plenty to run this program.
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