How to control the people : Keep them stupid and uninformed

[buckshot24]

.....anything.

I know that the inventor of the MRI is a YEC clearly refuting your baseless charge.

 

[J.Wilkins]

It isn't a linear progression. Sure, if it was just about adding up small changes you would have a point but there are vastly complex systems you need to explain.

Again, small changes compiled over long enough time and shaped by environment due to natural selection as to weed out what cannot breed and enforce the breeding and spreading of other changes can absolutely account for the diversity of life.

You just do not WANT to learn how, your end goal is to stay ignorant by just going "nuh-uh".

The true mark of a wanton idiot.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I don't know.

Well that's a problem then, isn't it? You've placed your bar for evidence so far above what is possible within a human lifetime, you'll never see anything. You've put blinders on yourself, that even the scientific process doesn't, which has successfully arrived at testable and verifiable conclusions for centuries.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

You are mistaken on two fronts. It is a great analogy because it explains the way I'm thinking about the topic. And it isn't a strawman because it just isn't one.

It's a great way to show how little you know about the topic, if that's how you're thinking about it. You cannot compare a baby turning into an astronaut to evolution, it's an incomparable pair of processes. It's akin to comparing mustard to a wheelbarrow.

 

[buckshot24]

It's a great way to show how little you know about the topic, if that's how you're thinking about it. You cannot compare a baby turning into an astronaut to evolution, it's an incomparable pair of processes. It's akin to comparing mustard to a wheelbarrow.

You don't know how analogies work, do you?

 

[buckshot24]

Again, small changes compiled over long enough time and shaped by environment due to natural selection as to weed out what cannot breed and enforce the breeding and spreading of other changes can absolutely account for the diversity of life.

You just do not WANT to learn how, your end goal is to stay ignorant by just going "nuh-uh".

The true mark of a wanton idiot.

I am well aware of the blind faith you people have but demonstrate that the small changes we observe could do what you believe they did do.

 

[J.Wilkins]

I know that the inventor of the MRI is a YEC clearly refuting your baseless charge.

If you're going to appeal to authority you are in for quite a bitter surprise.

Look at Ben Carson, seems like an intelligent human being when you look at his career but this is a man who not only believes that pyramids were grain silos but that the other option that scientists have concluded were that they were built by aliens.

The man is as ignorant as fuck itself and not a person anyone with half a brain would trust in a completely different field but he was an excellent brain surgeon.

Same with your guy, he invented the MRI but he's still completely ignorant regarding evolution.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

You don't know how analogies work, do you?

Compatible analogies, yes.

What color are the words Buckshot?

That's a much better one. It doesn't have the fun mental imagery of a baby crawling around, but it highlights (pun intended) the process much better.

 

[J.Wilkins]

I am well aware of the blind faith you people have but demonstrate that the small changes we observe could do what you believe they did do.

It's well documented in the theory that you do the best you possibly can to not learn anything about. How the hell do you expect me to teach you something you don't want to learn?

Here's a link for you to ignore: https://www.coursera.org/learn/bigh...incredible-diversity-of-life-we-see-around-us

 

[buckshot24]

Compatible analogies, yes.

That's a much better one. It doesn't have the fun mental imagery of a baby crawling around, but it highlights (pun intended) the process much better.

It assumes a linearity that isn't real. A microbe turning into you would require giant leaps of innovation that is simply an article of your faith.

 

[buckshot24]

It's well documented in the theory that you do the best you possibly can to not learn anything about. How the hell do you expect me to teach you something you don't want to learn?

Yeah, no it isn't.

 

[J.Wilkins]

Yeah, no it isn't.

Yes, it is and no amount of your wilful ignorance will change that. I edited to add a link for you to ignore since you REALLY don't want to know anything about the theory of evolution.

Here it is again: https://www.coursera.org/learn/bigh...incredible-diversity-of-life-we-see-around-us

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

It assumes a linearity that isn't real. A microbe turning into you would require giant leaps of innovation that is simply an article of your faith.

So we're finally reaching the equivalency you've been dancing around, that evolution is just as much 'faith' as religion is, yes? Because you state it is?

 

[J.Wilkins]

It assumes a linearity that isn't real. A microbe turning into you would require giant leaps of innovation that is simply an article of your faith.

Again with the "giant leaps" that everyone has told you time and time again is NOT a claim within the theory of evolution but just something you pulled out of your dumb arse.

You just keep ignoring everything written and any source and repeat the same dumb shit over and over and over.

 

[buckshot24]

Again with the "giant leaps" that everyone has told you time and time again is NOT a claim within the theory of evolution but just something you pulled out of your dumb arse.

You just keep ignoring everything written and any source and repeat the same dumb shit over and over and over.

"Giant leaps" doesn't mean what you think it means in my statement. Your insults are irrelevant.

 

[buckshot24]

So we're finally reaching the equivalency you've been dancing around, that evolution is just as much 'faith' as religion is, yes? Because you state it is?

No, it is more faith.

 

[buckshot24]

Yes, it is and no amount of your wilful ignorance will change that. I edited to add a link for you to ignore since you REALLY don't want to know anything about the theory of evolution.

Here it is again: https://www.coursera.org/learn/bigh...incredible-diversity-of-life-we-see-around-us

Is that anything more than a guy telling the story of how he thinks it happened? I know what the fairy tale entails.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

No, it is more faith.

Then continue to wallow in your ignorance and tilt at windmills, while others more educated than yourself develop the things you depend on to exist.

 

[J.Wilkins]

"Giant leaps" doesn't mean what you think it means in my statement. Your insults are irrelevant.

To quote you when you were arguing about the word "proven": "Words matter!"

"A microbe turning into you would require giant leaps of innovation that is simply an article of your faith."

No microbe ever turned into [DHT]Osiris, no microbe ever turned into anything but a microbe.

 

[buckshot24]

Then continue to wallow in your ignorance and tilt at windmills, while others more educated than yourself develop the things you depend on to exist.

No need to get angry that the mechanism which is central to your faith hasn't been demonstrated to be adequate.

 

[J.Wilkins]

Is that anything more than a guy telling the story of how he thinks it happened? I know what the fairy tale entails.

Yes, it is a man who explains the basics of the theory of evolution.

Unlike religion, scientific theories are not subject to change by the opinions of the one teaching it.

And no, you don't understand evolution at a middle school level, you have demonstrated that thoroughly.

 

[buckshot24]

To quote you when you were arguing about the word "proven": "Words matter!"

"A microbe turning into you would require giant leaps of innovation that is simply an article of your faith."

No microbe ever turned into [DHT]Osiris, no microbe ever turned into anything but a microbe.

Words matter, of course. You're taking "giant leap" out of context.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

No need to get angry that the mechanism which is central to your faith hasn't been demonstrated to be adequate.

I don't have a faith, I have reason and logic (which is being tested by my continued existence in this thread). The mechanism of science works as it always has, your understanding of it is what is at fault. The worst part about it is that you actually think you're proving yourself right. You actually think that by me not showing you a youtube video of a collection of amino acids from 6 billion years ago turning into a blue whale swimming in the ocean off the coast of Madagascar is somehow proof that evolution cannot exist.

 

[buckshot24]

Yes, it is a man who explains the basics of the theory of evolution.

Unlike religion, scientific theories are not subject to change by the opinions of the one teaching it.

And no, you don't understand evolution at a middle school level, you have demonstrated that thoroughly.

Empty words. Demonstrate that mutations and selection is adequate to produce the results your faith requires or go eat a scone.

 

[J.Wilkins]

Words matter, of course. You're taking "giant leap" out of context.

I quoted the entire sentence, did you mean to say that a microbe never turns into anything but a microbe but somehow just typed the exact opposite?