How should Kerry handle the next debate?

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Just hit the Dub hard about the deficit.

It's sad when the best thing you can do is appeal to the ignorant.

On the contrary, it's best to appeal to the ignorant and educate them so they aren't ignorant.

Then lets give them accurate information. Not mudslinging politics, which is what Kerry is going to feed them. I maintain my belief that you cannot learn anything from listening to a politician. Politicians are just rhetoricians, meaning that they only push their own adjenda and nothing else. This goes for both, and all politicians.

 

[Infohawk]

I think he should do more of the same. Attacking Bush's numerous failures and inconsistencies. Then let Bush come back with vague notions like "stay the course" that don't comfort anyone. I think Kerry's demeanor is most important. A calm, dignified response to Bush's furrowed monkey-brow and religious incantations.

 

[conjur]

MSNBC (Norah O'Donnell) was reporting that the Bush campaign may cancel the 2nd debate. They cannot be assured the questions will not be hostile toward the President.

Somebody call the waahmbulance!!


Actually, I kind of hope Bush does cancel it. It will reveal to more people that the emperor has no clothes.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: conjur
MSNBC (Norah O'Donnell) was reporting that the Bush campaign may cancel the 2nd debate. They cannot be assured the questions will not be hostile toward the President.

Somebody call the waahmbulance!!


Actually, I kind of hope Bush does cancel it. It will reveal to more people that the emperor has no clothes.

OMG! That'd be great! :laugh:

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: conjur
MSNBC (Norah O'Donnell) was reporting that the Bush campaign may cancel the 2nd debate. They cannot be assured the questions will not be hostile toward the President.

Somebody call the waahmbulance!!


Actually, I kind of hope Bush does cancel it. It will reveal to more people that the emperor has no clothes.

Would you be ok if the questions were hostile toward Kerry? I think both sides should not have to worry about bias. The questions should be neutral and both sides should rest assured that they will be neutral.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: conjur
MSNBC (Norah O'Donnell) was reporting that the Bush campaign may cancel the 2nd debate. They cannot be assured the questions will not be hostile toward the President.

Somebody call the waahmbulance!!


Actually, I kind of hope Bush does cancel it. It will reveal to more people that the emperor has no clothes.

Would you be ok if the questions were hostile toward Kerry? I think both sides should not have to worry about bias. The questions should be neutral and both sides should rest assured that they will be neutral.

Yes, I would. Kerry has already shown he handles hecklers with aplomb at his rallies. Bush will be completely unnerved and will likely exhibit a full mental breakdown if actually confronted with a tough question when Rove/Cheney can't feed him an answer.

 

[Infohawk]

Conjur, I don't hope Bush cancels the next debate. I don't think people have the ability to see he has no clothes (I mean if they haven't seen it yet). I think undecided people need to get comfortable with Kerry as presisdent. Seeing him up there next to Shrub helps with that. Frankly I was surprised they had chickened out sooner though.

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Conjur, I don't hope Bush cancels the next debate. I don't think people have the ability to see he has no clothes (I mean if they haven't seen it yet). I think undecided people need to get comfortable with Kerry as presisdent. Seeing him up there next to Shrub helps with that. Frankly I was surprised they had chickened out sooner though.

Frankly, I hope Bush does cancel it. Pretty much everyone who cares about domestic policy and the debts our childen will have to pay know Bush dropped the ball. So with only the smallest of platforms to stand on, I imagine Bush will gain points by throwing out blatant, exaggerated lies and portraying Kerry's outrage at each one as a weakness. I believe thats what he did for Gore.

Anyway, the more clips we see of last week's debate, the better chance dems have at convincing swing voters that Bush isn't all that.

( And it'd be ironic if the media interpretted Bush's frustration during the debate as a sign of hot-headedness. It'd be like the dean scream all over again. Too bad our 'liberal' media doesn't take that angle 😛)

 

[wiin]

Kerry may have to 'cheat' to score many points tonight

Did he? Look at the video and decide for yourself.

He took something out of his pocket and place it on the podium and look at it. More over here

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: wiin
Kerry may have to 'cheat' to score many points tonight

Did he? Look at the video and decide for yourself.

He took something out of his pocket and place it on the podium and look at it. More over here

REPOST

That's in the stickied debate thread.

Besides, it's just a pen and Bush pulled something out, too.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: conjur
MSNBC (Norah O'Donnell) was reporting that the Bush campaign may cancel the 2nd debate. They cannot be assured the questions will not be hostile toward the President.

Somebody call the waahmbulance!!


Actually, I kind of hope Bush does cancel it. It will reveal to more people that the emperor has no clothes.

Would you be ok if the questions were hostile toward Kerry? I think both sides should not have to worry about bias. The questions should be neutral and both sides should rest assured that they will be neutral.

Yes, I would. Kerry has already shown he handles hecklers with aplomb at his rallies. Bush will be completely unnerved and will likely exhibit a full mental breakdown if actually confronted with a tough question when Rove/Cheney can't feed him an answer.

I call BS. You would be the first one here to start your Bing&Ming about how Bush must have obviously been paying off the moderators and such.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeh, wiin, Kerry took notes, which obviously requires something to write upon...

What you're offering is the most thinly veiled apologism for Bush, cloaked in innuendo and accusations towards his opponent.

Obviously, the only way Kerry could have bested Bush was to have cheated... at least per the Bush partisans.

Think it's bad now? Just wait 'til Kerry gets done with Bush in the next round, and the one after that, if Bush even has the stones to show up...

Strong Leader? More like all hat, no cattle...

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Would you be ok if the questions were hostile toward Kerry? I think both sides should not have to worry about bias. The questions should be neutral and both sides should rest assured that they will be neutral.

Yes, I would. Kerry has already shown he handles hecklers with aplomb at his rallies. Bush will be completely unnerved and will likely exhibit a full mental breakdown if actually confronted with a tough question when Rove/Cheney can't feed him an answer.

I call BS. You would be the first one here to start your Bing&Ming about how Bush must have obviously been paying off the moderators and such.

Call what you want but Kerry would open up some of this on Bush!

 

[CaptnKirk]

Does it really matter how Kerry handles it ?

If this had been a Duel rather than a Debate, Bush would have been
rolled out in a wheelchair, he had no feet left. Bang-Bang !

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, wiin, Kerry took notes, which obviously requires something to write upon...

What you're offering is the most thinly veiled apologism for Bush, cloaked in innuendo and accusations towards his opponent.

Obviously, the only way Kerry could have bested Bush was to have cheated... at least per the Bush partisans.

Think it's bad now? Just wait 'til Kerry gets done with Bush in the next round, and the one after that, if Bush even has the stones to show up...

Strong Leader? More like all hat, no cattle...

Pens and paper were provided by the commision. What Kerry did was at the least in violation of debate rules.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, wiin, Kerry took notes, which obviously requires something to write upon...

What you're offering is the most thinly veiled apologism for Bush, cloaked in innuendo and accusations towards his opponent.

Obviously, the only way Kerry could have bested Bush was to have cheated... at least per the Bush partisans.

Think it's bad now? Just wait 'til Kerry gets done with Bush in the next round, and the one after that, if Bush even has the stones to show up...

Strong Leader? More like all hat, no cattle...

Pens and paper were provided by the commision. What Kerry did was at the least in violation of debate rules.

Rules made up by Bush because he knew he was going to have his ass handed to him.

Lehrer said no one knew of the questions in advance. How could Kerry have cheated?

 

[her209]

Kerry doesn't have to show up to the debate and he'd still win.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, wiin, Kerry took notes, which obviously requires something to write upon...

What you're offering is the most thinly veiled apologism for Bush, cloaked in innuendo and accusations towards his opponent.

Obviously, the only way Kerry could have bested Bush was to have cheated... at least per the Bush partisans.

Think it's bad now? Just wait 'til Kerry gets done with Bush in the next round, and the one after that, if Bush even has the stones to show up...

Strong Leader? More like all hat, no cattle...

Pens and paper were provided by the commision. What Kerry did was at the least in violation of debate rules.

Rules made up by Bush because he knew he was going to have his ass handed to him.

Lehrer said no one knew of the questions in advance. How could Kerry have cheated?

Bush did not make all of the rules, and the rules were agreed to by both debaters. Lehrer can say what he wants, but we have no guarantee that he is telling the truth. Certainly you agree that if either candidate knew the questions beforehand, he would be cheating?

Out of curiousity, where did you find out that this particular rule was proposed by the Bush campaign and not the Kerry one?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Bush did not make all of the rules, and the rules were agreed to by both debaters. Lehrer can say what he wants, but we have no guarantee that he is telling the truth. Certainly you agree that if either candidate knew the questions beforehand, he would be cheating?

Cheating is cheating. But what evidence do you have that suggested Kerry had cheated?

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Bush did not make all of the rules, and the rules were agreed to by both debaters. Lehrer can say what he wants, but we have no guarantee that he is telling the truth. Certainly you agree that if either candidate knew the questions beforehand, he would be cheating?

Cheating is cheating. But what evidence do you have that suggested Kerry had cheated?

Like I said before, he violated debate rules. The evidence for that seems pretty clear from the videos. So, technically, he was cheating, though it is likely something so minor that he wouldn't bother doing so.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Bush did not make all of the rules, and the rules were agreed to by both debaters. Lehrer can say what he wants, but we have no guarantee that he is telling the truth. Certainly you agree that if either candidate knew the questions beforehand, he would be cheating?

Cheating is cheating. But what evidence do you have that suggested Kerry had cheated?

Like I said before, he violated debate rules. The evidence for that seems pretty clear from the videos. So, technically, he was cheating, though it is likely something so minor that he wouldn't bother doing so.

He pulled out his pen. Who cares? Is this what the right has to debunk Kerry's performance? That's sad.

 

[Jhhnn]

And now, from LordTyranus, not only the accusation that Kerry could have somehow cheated, but that Lehrer was in on it, too... Can't come right out and say it, though, gotta ease into it, run it up the flagpole, see who salutes...

How else could Bush have received such a drubbing? Musta been cheatin'- yeh, that's it... It's a conspiracy!

You guys are getting desperate, the talking points more bizarre, more obfuscatory as time goes on...

I watched the debate on CSPAN, with both candidates on a split screen- no commentary, no camera play, no nothin'- but that was also in violation of the rules. Dubya's actions were as telling when he wasn't talking as when he was... and Kerry could be observed listening, taking notes... organizing his rebuttals, particularly...

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Bush did not make all of the rules, and the rules were agreed to by both debaters. Lehrer can say what he wants, but we have no guarantee that he is telling the truth. Certainly you agree that if either candidate knew the questions beforehand, he would be cheating?

Cheating is cheating. But what evidence do you have that suggested Kerry had cheated?

Like I said before, he violated debate rules. The evidence for that seems pretty clear from the videos. So, technically, he was cheating, though it is likely something so minor that he wouldn't bother doing so.

He pulled out his pen. Who cares? Is this what the right has to debunk Kerry's performance? That's sad.

Apparently Matt Drudge does.

And now, from LordTyranus, not only the accusation that Kerry could have somehow cheated, but that Lehrer was in on it, too... Can't come right out and say it, though, gotta ease into it, run it up the flagpole, see who salutes...

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy with you libs? It's almost as if this is the X files.

Did he cheat? Technically. Do I care? Not really.

If Bush had pulled out a piece of paper like that, the Bush haters would be ranting on about it. I guess that is the difference between you and I.


The libs here have already accused Bush of wearing an earpiece,.. Can't come right out and say cheating, though, gotta ease into it, run it up the flagpole, see who salutes...

You guys are getting desperate, the talking points more bizarre, more obfuscatory as time goes on... Guess that's what happens when you are behind in the polls.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Bush did not make all of the rules, and the rules were agreed to by both debaters. Lehrer can say what he wants, but we have no guarantee that he is telling the truth. Certainly you agree that if either candidate knew the questions beforehand, he would be cheating?

Cheating is cheating. But what evidence do you have that suggested Kerry had cheated?

Like I said before, he violated debate rules. The evidence for that seems pretty clear from the videos. So, technically, he was cheating, though it is likely something so minor that he wouldn't bother doing so.

He pulled out his pen. Who cares? Is this what the right has to debunk Kerry's performance? That's sad.

Apparently Matt Drudge does.

And now, from LordTyranus, not only the accusation that Kerry could have somehow cheated, but that Lehrer was in on it, too... Can't come right out and say it, though, gotta ease into it, run it up the flagpole, see who salutes...

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy with you libs? It's almost as if this is the X files.

Did he cheat? Technically. Do I care? Not really.

If Bush had pulled out a piece of paper like that, the Bush haters would be ranting on about it. I guess that is the difference between you and I.


The libs here have already accused Bush of wearing an earpiece,.. Can't come right out and say cheating, though, gotta ease into it, run it up the flagpole, see who salutes...

You guys are getting desperate, the talking points more bizarre, more obfuscatory as time goes on... Guess that's what happens when you are behind in the polls.

Bush got his ass handed to him, and the best you come up with to counter is that Kerry pulled out a pen? Poor Bush. He was totally thrown off, and could hardly compensate for that horrible act. Good thing he protects himself from bad news while in office so he can lead the country blindly, and not be upset about it.

Desperate? BWHAHA!! He pulled out a pen and Bushites have a cow. Who gives a rat's behind. If Bush had pulled out a pen, you think Kerry would have lost the debate? Dueling pens?

Damn, that's pretty poor.

 

[TechJunkie95242]

Blame Bush because hes Bush and his father had the same problem as well... Tell the american people "like father like son" oh yah... Kerry should also say hes too stupid to even understand how the economy works.:laugh:😛