How old is the earth?

[Cerpin Taxt]

Not quite old enough just yet.

Nonsense.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Carbon dating is hardly accurate. Billions of years is implausible, though it routinely gets thrown around. Sounds cool anyway, and makes plenty of room for some rather impossible things thrown in there that violate the very laws of physics.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[IronWing]

Carbon dating is hardly accurate. Billions of years is implausible, though it routinely gets thrown around. Sounds cool anyway, and makes plenty of room for some rather impossible things thrown in there that violate the very laws of physics.

I'll leave it at that.

Hopefully at least this portion of your post is true. Carbon dating isn't used to date the earth.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Carbon dating is hardly accurate. Billions of years is implausible, though it routinely gets thrown around. Sounds cool anyway, and makes plenty of room for some rather impossible things thrown in there that violate the very laws of physics.

I'll leave it at that.

How so?

 

[Red Squirrel]

My theory is the great flood had effects on the Earth that make it seem much older than it is. Think of the compression the ground must have been under with all that water, and because the earth is round, and it was COVERED with water, that force was actually like a big 3D venturi effect.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Carbon dating is hardly accurate.

It's actually accurate enough to invalidate just about every Young Earth Creationist estimate for the age of the earth, and it's not even the way the earth is dated!

Billions of years is implausible

Based on what, Einstein? Some claptrap you read on a creationist website?

...though it routinely gets thrown around.

...because it's pretty much common knowledge and well established by several independent dating methods.

Learn something, you ignorant hick.

Sounds cool anyway, and makes plenty of room for some rather impossible things thrown in there that violate the very laws of physics.

I'll leave it at that.

Yeah I bet you will, since we both know none of your claims are borne out by reality. Run along now, son. Best leave the real science to the grown ups.

 

[feralkid]

older than dirt.

 

[Fritzo]

Damn son, thats the smartest thing you ever said here.
Get help from your kids?

Yup, carbon dating only works to a point. The main reason we know the age of long lived things is by comparing them to other stuff we observe in the universe. We can see a lot of other things at various stages of their lives and make rough estimates of years.

The actual way we can date the Earth is pretty interesting.

Since the Earth is tectonically active, it is constantly churning and recycling itself. Therefore most of the surface rocks on Earth are in the 100 million year old range - no use for checking the age of the planet.

However, certain isotopes of lead, potassium and uranium decay and a very specific rate. We are able to take meteorites and moon rocks and measure their age using these isotopes, and compare them to identical isotopes found on Earth. The age comes out to 4.54 billion years old.

Somewhere between 30 and 150 million years after the Earth was formed, a planet the size of Mars that wandered between Earth and Venus actually collided with the Earth. The collision shattered the planet, and eventually the debris coalesced into the present day Earth along with our Moon.

 

[AbAbber2k]

My theory is the great flood had effects on the Earth that make it seem much older than it is. Think of the compression the ground must have been under with all that water, and because the earth is round, and it was COVERED with water, that force was actually like a big 3D venturi effect.

Not sure if serious.

 

[IronWing]

How old is the bottom turtle?

 

[DominionSeraph]

Sounds cool anyway, and makes plenty of room for some rather impossible things thrown in there that violate the very laws of physics.

Awww... do we have another silly fundie with the old, "Evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics" hilarity?

It's funny that these idiots never have any clue as to how science works. They can't even grasp the theories they disagree with nor the ones they think are in conflict with those. Yet they think that reading some Creationist website puts them at the pinnacle of intellectual thought.

My theory is the great flood had effects on the Earth that make it seem much older than it is. Think of the compression the ground must have been under with all that water, and because the earth is round, and it was COVERED with water, that force was actually like a big 3D venturi effect.

Wat.

Compression effects are well understood, and they tend to leave evidence in the materials compressed. Also, the pressure generated by the weight of any reasonable column of water is negligible compared to what the Earth can generate internally.
Honestly, you're acting like the bottom of the Marianas Trench is under conditions that are just miles beyond scientific thought. Not even close.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star

Not sure if serious.

Well, Canadians are normally not that stupid. But given his first sig link...
Perhaps he's a transplant from the American South?

 

[JulesMaximus]

I know nothing.

I'll leave it at that.

Fixed that for you.

 

[JulesMaximus]

My theory is the great flood had effects on the Earth that make it seem much older than it is. Think of the compression the ground must have been under with all that water, and because the earth is round, and it was COVERED with water, that force was actually like a big 3D venturi effect.

I wonder where all that water went...maybe god was thirsty?

 

[darkswordsman17]

It's actually accurate enough to invalidate just about every Young Earth Creationist estimate for the age of the earth, and it's not even the way the earth is dated!

Based on what, Einstein? Some claptrap you read on a creationist website?

...because it's pretty much common knowledge and well established by several independent dating methods.

Learn something, you ignorant hick.


Yeah I bet you will, since we both know none of your claims are borne out by reality. Run along now, son. Best leave the real science to the grown ups.

Awww... do we have another silly fundie with the old, "Evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics" hilarity?

It's funny that these idiots never have any clue as to how science works. They can't even grasp the theories they disagree with nor the ones they think are in conflict with those. Yet they think that reading some Creationist website puts them at the pinnacle of intellectual thought.

Fixed that for you.

Hopefully at least this portion of your post is true. Carbon dating isn't used to date the earth.

How so?

All aboard.

Carbon dating is hardly accurate. Billions of years is implausible, though it routinely gets thrown around. Sounds cool anyway, and makes plenty of room for some rather impossible things thrown in there that violate the very laws of physics.

I'll leave it at that.

ATOT just ran a train on you. Why do I get the impression its not the first time?

 

[Fritzo]

I wonder where all that water went...maybe god was thirsty?

Geeky fact: There's enough water on Earth to cover then entire planet 6ft deep (you could never do this though because the surface isn't smooth).

 

[xSauronx]

My theory is the great flood had effects on the Earth that make it seem much older than it is. Think of the compression the ground must have been under with all that water, and because the earth is round, and it was COVERED with water, that force was actually like a big 3D venturi effect.

is there a single thing that you have read, comprehended, and subsequently remembered that is worth a god damn? because im damn sure none of it is in this post, and there are a number of other posts of yours that, combined with this useless, baseless drivel, have prompted me to make this inquiry.

 

[sdifox]

My theory is the great flood had effects on the Earth that make it seem much older than it is. Think of the compression the ground must have been under with all that water, and because the earth is round, and it was COVERED with water, that force was actually like a big 3D venturi effect.

where did all the water go? and why doesn't the bottom of the ocean suffer the same fate?

 

[sandorski]

where did all the water go? and why doesn't the bottom of the ocean suffer the same fate?

He'll have to consult those whom his "My Theory" came from.

 

[sdifox]

He'll have to consult those whom his "My Theory" came from.

ask.com

 

[DominionSeraph]

He'll have to consult those whom his "My Theory" came from.

I've debated fundies for years and I've never heard anything quite that stupid. The network of Fundie apologists will throw out a basic hypotheses (water halo), cherry pick for half-truths, and generally misunderstand, but they typically don't try to invent an entire system of physics.
Nothing he said could even hold up to a high-school dropout's own questioning, so it's probably his own.

 

[randay]

6000 years ago god created a 4.5 billion year old earth. there you go now lets all hug and make up.

 

[sandorski]

I've debated fundies for years and I've never heard anything quite that stupid. The network of Fundie apologists will throw out a basic hypotheses (water halo), cherry pick for half-truths, and generally misunderstand, but they typically don't try to invent an entire system of physics.
Nothing he said could even hold up to a high-school dropout's own questioning, so it's probably his own.

Back when I ascribed to similar belief, I've heard a similar idea espoused by Creationists. They certainly seem to think the Flood is responsible for the plethora of fossils lying about everywhere.

 

[Powermoloch]

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[Cerpin Taxt]

6000 years ago god created a 4.5 billion year old earth. there you go now lets all hug and make up.

Omphalism is generally incompatible with Christianity. "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth His handiwork." Psalm 19:1.

If the heavens are false, then the glory of God is false. Try selling that one at your next church group meeting.

 

[SparkyJJO]

The only train ATOT ran was the personal attack one, which isn't surprising. Ad-hominem is the best you have because most of ATOT seems to not be capable of having an intelligent discussion. Heck you guys can't even just simply disagree with someone else, you feel the need to attempt to tear him down instead.

Whatever. I'm used to it. But I do have a recommendation - try to act like adults sometimes, instead of some 10 year olds screaming at each other, "You're stupid!" when you have a disagreement.

Peace out. If peace is really capable among you.