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Cerpin Taxt

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Einzige said:
And I'm not going to state this again: I am only pointing out that all explanations for the origin of life are ridiculous and absurd.
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What origin of life? Has anyone established that there is an origin of life?

Que stock responses that ive heard before, including the one above.

I'll give you a few minutes to realize you're arguing a strawman.

Need a hint? I'm just pointing out absurdities--both magical and rational explanations are totally absurd.
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Argument from incredulity is a fallacy.
 
Paratus

Paratus

Lifer
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OverVolt said:
You mean solar cells subsidized by a primarily fossil fuel economy still? Those solar cells?

I'm not saying there will be no technology. Living is going to be much more simple. Powering some small electronics from a solar cell is great and I bet it'll be a part of every home in the future. You just won't be able to ship christmas deorations some guy made in china 18,000 miles for less than a dollar. Things will have to become more localized. Globalization relies on fossil fuels. I actually think I would like the life style better, but I think most would be unhappy. Its just that after a day of learning on the computer you probably have to go tend the garden. There will be no more lemons in winter. That kind of thing. Food costs will probably be very high and technology will probably be very cheap comparatively. You see this happening now anyway.
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You mean the fossil fuel economy that was subsidized by the steam engine economy? That one? ;)

Every advanced is subsidized by the technology that came before it.

What you are describing is what's happening in parts of the third world as they come out of abject poverty. Small solar appliances are popular since they don't have th infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical plants.

The first world will never live without mass transportation of goods. We had prototype nuclear powered cargo vessels in the 60's if demand is there we'll have them again.
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Einzige

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Cerpin Taxt said:
What origin of life? Has anyone established that there is an origin of life?


Argument from incredulity is a fallacy.
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Are you suggesting it's possible there is no origin to life? Well for one piece of minor evidence there exists an origin to my life. My Dad fell in love with my Mom, stuck his dick in her vagina, which is above a butthole and below a peehole, then slimed up it, then my mom pooped me out her cooper. It was excruciating. Then I sucked her tits for nourishment. Maybe the absurd origin of my life is suggestive that life itself had an origin. Merely slightly suggestive.

However, I could go in to explaining how all things are finite and how nothing is infinite. I could begin by making metaphysical statements, which are admittedly weak (but true) arguments. What existed "for Mr" or "for you" before our births? Infinite nothing. Same with death. Outer space... does it end? Or is it infinite nothingness beyond what exists? Yadda yadda.

Nothing... is a state of perfect peace. Nothing is perfect, nothing lasts forever. Birth and death, beginning and end.

That's all very airy fairy philosophy though, isnt it? Many in philosophy these days won't even consider any metaphysical notion. And before you quote physics info explaining how empty space isnt truly nothing, I do consider these metaphysical truths to take precedence to your physics.

It is METAPHYSICS after all.

Anyways the notion of life without origin is idiotic. If you can't see why that is illogical whilst you speak on more complex scientific topics, then I can do nothing but laugh at you regurgitating information you don't truly understand pretending to be smart.

Questioning whether or not life has origin...

Maybe I'm ahead of myself. I should've asked first: what the hell do you mean by suggesting there may be no origin? Am I condescending you whilst misunderstanding what you mean?

Lastly, I made no such fallacy. I merely highlighted that all explanations to the origin od life are ridiculous and absurd. Maybe that implies that I'm suggesting thaylt they may be false based on that notion. But in the end, all I did was point ot that it's absurd. Food for thought is all I provided.

I never stated "that is incomprehensible therefore false". I stated "that is absurd and ridiculous" whilst suggesting that it is perhaps false.

Or, rather, suggesting that it is obviously false. But that's not the bulk of my argukent: I just made a suggestion. I didn't even make a case to be argued: I only suggested.

I didn't make argument, therefore no fallacy is even possible.
 
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Cerpin Taxt

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Einzige said:
Are you suggesting it's possible there is no origin to life?
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No, I asked a question, to which you responded by blathering endlessly, never managing to even approach an answer.

This is the bargain: You show me an origin of life, then I'll explain how it happened. Until you can put up your end of the bargain, you can shut your stupid fucking pie hole.
 
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Einzige

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Cerpin Taxt said:
No, I asked a question, to which you responded by blathering endlessly, never managing to even approach an answer.

This is the bargain: You show me an origin of life, then I'll explain how it happened. Until you can put up your end of the bargain, you can shut your stupid fucking pie hole.
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You know if you take the time to read what I said you might find some enlightenment.

I don't want you to explain it--I want you to acknowledge that all beliefs/theories are absurd, and I want you to... I dunno, speak on that. That these theories result in the most ridiculous story of human origin ever conceived--I just want your thoughts on that.

The entirety of the human experience, our complex language, music, stories, romance and friendships... As these ridiculous organisms with these ridiculous bodily functions living on this ridiculous ball...

I mean, speak on that. Speak on how you reconcile the findings of science with blatantly obvious absurdity.

Side question: do you think there is any sort of thematic meaning to our sleep cycle? You know, to be or not to be? I mean, it seems like there is. Not to be, perfect peace... To be, pooping every day living on a giant ball... It seems like there is some sort of obvious meaning to life in there.e

Or do you scoff at all metaphysical pondering, sticking to pure physics, biology, etc? I mean, silly creatures on a giant ball... The world is so clearly logical.

Nay. Pure absurdity. All logic leads to absurdities--all science does, consider quantum mechanics.
 
Cerpin Taxt

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
11,940
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Einzige said:
You know if you take the time to read what I said you might find some enlightenment.

I don't want you to explain it--I want you to acknowledge that all beliefs/theories are absurd, and I want you to... I dunno, speak on that. That these theories result in the most ridiculous story of human origin ever conceived--I just want your thoughts on that.

The entirety of the human experience, our complex language, music, stories, romance and friendships... As these ridiculous organisms with these ridiculous bodily functions living on this ridiculous ball...

I mean, speak on that. Speak on how you reconcile the findings of science with blatantly obvious absurdity.

Side question: do you think there is any sort of thematic meaning to our sleep cycle? You know, to be or not to be? I mean, it seems like there is. Not to be, perfect peace... To be, pooping every day living on a giant ball... It seems like there is some sort of obvious meaning to life in there.e

Or do you scoff at all metaphysical pondering, sticking to pure physics, biology, etc? I mean, silly creatures on a giant ball... The world is so clearly logical.

Nay. Pure absurdity. All logic leads to absurdities--all science does, consider quantum mechanics.
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Please, tell me more...
 
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darkswordsman17

Lifer
Mar 11, 2004
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OverVolt said:
You mean solar cells subsidized by a primarily fossil fuel economy still? Those solar cells?

I'm not saying there will be no technology. Living is going to be much more simple. Powering some small electronics from a solar cell is great and I bet it'll be a part of every home in the future. You just won't be able to ship christmas deorations some guy made in china 18,000 miles for less than a dollar. Things will have to become more localized. Globalization relies on fossil fuels. I actually think I would like the life style better, but I think most would be unhappy. Its just that after a day of learning on the computer you probably have to go tend the garden. There will be no more lemons in winter. That kind of thing. Food costs will probably be very high and technology will probably be very cheap comparatively. You see this happening now anyway.
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What kind of logic is that? You mean the fossil fuel society that is subsidized by an agrarian society? Things change. Plus, not sure why you act like fossil fuels aren't subsidized out the ass either, as they are massively subsidized. Likewise, rising food costs have little to nothing to do with food production costs. Distribution wouldn't be nearly as limited as you seem to believe either.
 
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History is always dubious guys cause it was humans who told us about it and again it is humans who writes awesome comics too!
 
BurnItDwn

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,353
1,862
126
Einzige said:
It's to procreate via intercourse to continue your bloodline.
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What about Ants? 99.9% of ants are not involved in procreation. Do you mean to suggest that their lives are without meaning or value?

How about gay people? Mostly they usually don't procreate, does this mean that their lives somehow have less meaning than you or I?

You are ridiculous and absurd.
 
nakedfrog

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
62,785
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Ugh, the thing is spreading. I wish it would be entertaining, it's already worn out the one note it has.
 
BurnItDwn

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,353
1,862
126
GagHalfrunt said:
I procreate by releasing a cloud of spores despite the fact that everyone else on the bus repeatedly asks me not to.
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Man, busses suck. They smell so terrible with all the exhaust. All the people on the bus should thank you because the spores likely improve the smells!
 
DigDog

DigDog

Lifer
Jun 3, 2011
14,637
3,008
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OP doesnt get that god can create anything *already old*. And Galactus can consume it.
 
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