How NOT to request for excuse from jury duty

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Balt

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I got a summons for a federal case recently, and there was a notice in the packet about employee protection. It's kinda funny how the law only protects your job if you are a permanent employee.

I can understand why it wouldn't make sense to prevent businesses from laying off temporary employees, but it wouldn't make sense to make those temporary employees sit on the jury and lose their job, either. I would hope that if you aren't a permanent employee they'd let you out of it.

Nearest federal district courthouse is almost 100 miles away so I'm kinda glad I was excused. Also I'm pretty sure the vigilante mayor that is being tried is guilty, so perhaps it's for the best. :p


Edit: Fortunately I didn't have to get my request to be excused notarized like the guy in Montana. What an unnecessary pain in the ass.
 

nerp

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I still say that people who have expired unemployment benefits should be at the top of the pool. Would address two problems.
 

her209

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If I were ever to be put on a jury, I'd try to convince the rest of the jury to go for a "guilty" verdict on whatever it is.
 

RESmonkey

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Originally posted by: her209
If I were ever to be put on a jury, I'd try to convince the rest of the jury to go for a "guilty" verdict on whatever it is.

I hope you don't mean that.
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: her209
If I were ever to be put on a jury, I'd try to convince the rest of the jury to go for a "guilty" verdict on whatever it is.

Not sure about anywhere else, but in Denton County, TX, when you report to jury duty, you have the possibilty of being selected for either a criminal or civil trial (i.e., no guilty or innocent verdict)...
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: her209
If I were ever to be put on a jury, I'd try to convince the rest of the jury to go for a "guilty" verdict on whatever it is.

I hope you don't mean that.

He's trolling
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Originally posted by: Modular
Usually I would agree. But then there's this: Three Chicago Cops found not guiltly in bar brawl

Now granted is wasn't a jury trial, but it just goes to show how fucked our legal system really is.
Or how great it can be. One of the cop's fathers died that day and he was at the bar with friends who gathered to support him, when a couple assholes made some disparaging comments about the guy because he was crying. These facts were never disputed. They got their ass kicked. If you're not prepared to get your ass kicked, don't make disparaging comments to people at a bar. Implied consent.

Broken ribs and nose? Other cops showing up, and then leaving without even trying to investigate? That is completely unacceptable. Cops are not above the law, despite what they may believe.
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Originally posted by: Modular
Usually I would agree. But then there's this: Three Chicago Cops found not guiltly in bar brawl

Now granted is wasn't a jury trial, but it just goes to show how fucked our legal system really is.
Or how great it can be. One of the cop's fathers died that day and he was at the bar with friends who gathered to support him, when a couple assholes made some disparaging comments about the guy because he was crying. These facts were never disputed. They got their ass kicked. If you're not prepared to get your ass kicked, don't make disparaging comments to people at a bar. Implied consent.

Broken ribs and nose? Other cops showing up, and then leaving without even trying to investigate? That is completely unacceptable. Cops are not above the law, despite what they may believe.

but just imagine for a second (this might be tough because it deals with the consequences of one's actions) that they weren't being total dicks and didn't make fun of someone crying...I know, right? There would be no broken bones or anything...

Why provoke somoene when you don't have to??? Would you feel any different if the guy mourning was not a cop? Should that matter??

 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: tk149
Broken ribs and nose? Other cops showing up, and then leaving without even trying to investigate? That is completely unacceptable. Cops are not above the law, despite what they may believe.
Broken ribs and noses are fairly common injuries in fights, particularly involving participants who are past their 20's when bones, joints, ligaments, tendons, and cartilages are not nearly as resilient as when such participants were mixing it up in their teens or early 20s. And what is there to investigate? Dudes provoked fight, dudes got ass kicked. Not a crime, no matter who is involved.

 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Originally posted by: tk149
Broken ribs and nose? Other cops showing up, and then leaving without even trying to investigate? That is completely unacceptable. Cops are not above the law, despite what they may believe.
Broken ribs and noses are fairly common injuries in fights, particularly involving participants who are past their 20's when bones, joints, ligaments, tendons, and cartilages are not nearly as resilient as when such participants were mixing it up in their teens or early 20s. And what is there to investigate? Dudes provoked fight, dudes got ass kicked. Not a crime, no matter who is involved.

In a just world it isn't a crime, but in this world, it's only not a crime if you're a cop.
 

richardycc

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I sat in an a jury once,it was a drug dealer case. We had to let the guy go, because he used one of those good lawyers that only drug dealer can afford.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: richardycc
I sat in an a jury once,it was a drug dealer case. We had to let the guy go, because he used one of those good lawyers that only drug dealer or rich white guy can afford.

fixed
 

dr150

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Originally posted by: Newbian
I would assign him the longest possible trail I could just for that.


Put him on the Bernie Madoff trial and subsequent appeals.