How much would you tip for this meal?

[Craig234]

my meal at gordon ramsay steak in vegas was 3 hours long and it wasn't even a "X course meal" type of dinner. it was normal apps and entree.

Ah I ate there also. It was mixed, with some things very good and some things disappointing. All in all I wouldn't rush back, instead try more places.

 

[Craig234]

WAGYU is a ripoff. prime t bones from costco are far superior and a whole lot less expensive.

If you have 'real' Wagyu or a decent Wagyu-like, it stands out a lot, but I've had various things that call themselves Wagyu but aren't that have been crappy.

 

[Craig234]

I'd stop by all those people at ramp exit ramps that need help and give them $100 each. And eat at Burger King that night.

Atleast I'd be able to tell my grandkids one day how I tried to help someone out on my anniversary. . And i would not worry about wasting my money. . And I'd be a little less douchebaggy feeling.

But you do what you want. If you and your wife can rationalize your anniversary idea, i feal sorry for you both.

And to those saying its drug money for these people. . Thar may be true but its not on my conscience.

I'd say, give to the people who help them, because the direct money usually does go for drugs, and that is on your conscience.

 

[Craig234]

lmao. Please dont ever do a tasting menu.

It'd have to be one that had very narrow items fitting my pickiness. Hard to find.

 

[JSt0rm]

It'd have to be one that had very narrow items fitting my pickiness. Hard to find.

A real foodie opens themselves up to the possibilities. You should really work on that aspect of yourself. You will have a richer fuller life because of it.

 

[JSt0rm]

If you have 'real' Wagyu or a decent Wagyu-like, it stands out a lot, but I've had various things that call themselves Wagyu but aren't that have been crappy.

wagyu is a type of cattle. There is American wagyu, Australian wagyu and Japanese wagyu. American has been bread in with angus and is generally more traditional in style. Australian should be full wagyu but they dont get the level of marble of the japanese stuff.

here is american prime rib:

Australian ribeye (same cut)

Japanese :

What you are looking at is the foie gra of beef.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

A real foodie opens themselves up to the possibilities. You should really work on that aspect of yourself. You will have a richer fuller life because of it.

I don't want to tell anyone how to live their lives... unless they are wrong... and so I agree.

 

[OutHouse]

wagyu is a type of cattle.

ummm no.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryol...-domestic-kobe-and-wagyu-beef/2/#547262c73394

The website of the AWA clearly says the term Wagyu includes everything from Angus to Holstein cows, but proposes that the selective breeding of “American Wagyu” – it pains me just to type those words – began with the importation of Tottori Black and Kumamoto Red bulls. Now these actually happen to be two very high quality breeds that in some cases produce beef that in Japan is considered superior to Kobe. But even if all producers were honest and stuck to these bloodlines, American Kobe would be questionable since the red breed is specifically banned in the production of real Kobe beef. But these bloodlines are not pure, because they have intentionally been crossbred with our cows to produce something that often has only a minority of Japanese breed heredity – yet they still call the result Wagyu. There are, to be sure, breeders who imported traditional Japanese beef cows before the ban and have continued to breed them in a 100% pure manner, and have documented these unadulterated bloodlines, and offer something that is as close to pure Wagyu as you will find here, but they are in the minority among those many claiming to sell Wagyu. Unfortunately for the few purists, with weak labelling laws working in favor of those who cross breed and dilute the authenticity of the cows, they are painted with the broad brush of consumer misinformation the industry embraces.

 

[IEC]

My future wife would kill me if I spent $700 + tax + tip on a meal.

 

[Humpy]

Japanese :

What you are looking at is the foie gra of beef.

Looks pretty gross TBH. Like a big chunk of bovine spongiform encephalitis infused fat.

I'd try a little piece off your plate though.

 

[Craig234]

A real foodie opens themselves up to the possibilities. You should really work on that aspect of yourself. You will have a richer fuller life because of it.

We'll agree to disagree.

And what I like to eat isn't a choice.

 

[JSt0rm]

We'll agree to disagree.

And what I like to eat isn't a choice.

actually it is. For instance. For me on first try cilantro tasted like soap. My brain had never tasted anything like it before and decided it was soap. However when you continue to eat something that tastes off to you your brain begin to interpret its true flavor.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/24/why-does-cilantro-taste-bad-like-soap_n_7653808.html

 

[JSt0rm]

ummm no.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryol...-domestic-kobe-and-wagyu-beef/2/#547262c73394

ok:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagyu

There are four breeds of wagyu: Japanese Black (黒毛和種 Kuroge Washu?), Japanese Brown (赤毛和種 Akage Washu or Akaushi?), Japanese Polled (無角和種 Mukaku Washu?), and Japanese Shorthorn (日本短角和種 Nihon Tankaku Washu?

 

[JSt0rm]

Looks pretty gross TBH. Like a big chunk of bovine spongiform encephalitis infused fat.

I'd try a little piece off your plate though.

You wouldnt eat it as a traditional steak. 6oz-8oz is all you will need.

 

[JSt0rm]

also if you get real wagyu beef from japan it is supposed to come with the birth certificate (a copy of)

and here is your grading system

The cert above is a4. Not the best. What I showed above is a5

 

[Aharami]

Cool that they refunded you...not their fault the weather wasn't cooperating....they could have been jerks.
The Na Pali coast is awesome....best part is that Kauai also has the "little grand canyon", so you can see some neat rock formations and waterfalls.

I'm sure there are tons of videos like this on youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8PM69LGS2o

Yes, yes it is!

Did the Jack Harter open door helicopter tour there. Was a blast!

 

[fab4u7889]

About $75

 

[pontifex]

I wouldn't even pay $350 for a meal for 2!!

 

[purbeast0]

Ah I ate there also. It was mixed, with some things very good and some things disappointing. All in all I wouldn't rush back, instead try more places.

i had a great experience there. it's probably the best meal i've ever had. the service was incredible too.

we were there with 9 people for my wifes birthday and they sat us up on the upstairs with a great table/view. my wife was feeling a little sick so i went to the bathroom with her. while i waited outside, as soon as my wife went into the bathroom, a server brought me over a chair to sit in while i waited for my wife.

then we get back to the table and the napkins that we had on our laps are folded nicely again on the table for us.

when the bill came, without us even asking them to split the bill up, the server had split the bill up correctly and knew who was with who, couple wise. we had 4 couples and 1 single guy, and they brought out 5 separate checks for the right groups of people.

i had the beef wellington and it was awesome. we had a lobster rissoto for app if i recall, and it was amazing. i'd go back there in a heartbeat.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

i had a great experience there. it's probably the best meal i've ever had. the service was incredible too.

we were there with 9 people for my wifes birthday and they sat us up on the upstairs with a great table/view. my wife was feeling a little sick so i went to the bathroom with her. while i waited outside, as soon as my wife went into the bathroom, a server brought me over a chair to sit in while i waited for my wife.

then we get back to the table and the napkins that we had on our laps are folded nicely again on the table for us.

when the bill came, without us even asking them to split the bill up, the server had split the bill up correctly and knew who was with who, couple wise. we had 4 couples and 1 single guy, and they brought out 5 separate checks for the right groups of people.

i had the beef wellington and it was awesome. we had a lobster rissoto for app if i recall, and it was amazing. i'd go back there in a heartbeat.

One of these days I need to go to Vegas to eat instead of only drinking.

 

[Mike64]

$150

I'll never in my life sit down to a $350 meal, but I would tip appropriately. If you can't afford the tip, go have a $250 meal.

:thumbsup: I see no reason (in the abstract) to "bump up" the tip even by a "measly" $10, but otherwise that's exactly correct. There in absolutely no "generally accepted" reduction for high margin tabs or individual items (like $500 bottles of wine.)

ETA: And I really don't mean to be snotty by saying this, I do feel somewhat constrained to note that it's only those who rarely spend this kind of money on a meal who even think of this question, and only those who never do (and who probably don't eat out much in general) who come with answers like $75 and $100. (And no, just for the record, I'm not one of those who does it on a regular basis, or for that matter, at that level, ever, but I hang out on food-related forums enough to know who asks this question and who doesn't...) Leave [ETA: less than] $100 on a $700 tab and, though you probably won't be looking to make another reservation at this place anytime soon anyway, you will never in fact get one again in your entire life. Leave $100 and you might get a table again - at 5:30pm, back near the kitchen door, on a slow night...

 

[mikeford]

Leave $100 on a $700 tab and, though you probably won't be looking to make another reservation at this place anytime soon anyway, you will never in fact get one again in your entire life.

The problem solves itself. $700 food and drink in SoCal will have $60 in tax, and my sad vulgar self would leave $100.

After working our butts off for six months with loads of unpaid overtime and the burden that places on families, our team got a project out on time with the reward of dinner out with wives someplace nice. Only 3 star, but it was cash only, got to keep out the common folk, and the expected tip was 20%. Waiter knew our boss by name. Its enough to make you want to vote for Sanders.

 

[JSt0rm]

shens on a cash only fine dining place. Give me the name.

 

[Mike64]

The problem solves itself. $700 food and drink in SoCal will have $60 in tax, and my sad vulgar self would leave $100.

I here ya about the taxes. Here in NYC, we'd see your $60 on a $700 bill and raise you $2.<sigh> (Though for all I know you were rounding? Our sales tax is 8.875%, though in this particular discussion/context, I will note that most "raw" food - even high-margin "luxury" food - isn't taxed at all, though junk food, broadly speaking, is.) And after I thought about for a few minutes, I realized I'd overstated the comment about the $100. At just below 15%, it would be frowned on (for whatever that's worth), but they would be unlikely to send a dishwasher out ahead of you to slash your car's tires.

Its enough to make you want to vote for Sanders.

Well, certainly if you think that $350 meals shouldn't exist at all, but if there weren't tipping, restaurants would just end up raising prices, though at most of them, probably not all in one fell swoop. I guess the vaguely silver-lining to paying "tips" vs increased prices is that contrary to the opinion of "big spender" types and some, though not all, wait staff, there is no generally accepted convention about tipping on post-tax vs pre-tax totals. On low-moderate tabs, it really doesn't make enough difference to worry about either way, but when you get into $700+ tab territory, it starts turning into at least the modern equivalent of pocket change... And unlike fast food employees or the elderly waiters at your corner diner, wait staff at high end restaurants are quite the opposite of downtrodden, underpaid wage slaves, so as far as I'm concerned, they have no more of a moral claim on my pocket change than I do.

 

[Ns1]

Well, certainly if you think that $350 meals shouldn't exist at all, but if there weren't tipping, restaurants would end up raising prices, though at most of them, probably not all in one fell swoop.

And that would be a good thing.