How much would you tip for this meal?

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Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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OK, thanks but not going. Out of the whole menu, all I'd eat would be the following and desserts. Almost no veggies, no seafood, no veal, no lamb.

"CHARCOAL GRILLED JAPANESE WAGYU
“Pommes Boulangère,” Green Asparagus, Tomato Confit, La Ratte Potato Purée and “Steak Sauce”
( 100.00 supplement )"

And on that, it's that $100 supplement and I don't eat the asparagus or tomatoes.

Awfully expensive $410 steak and dessert. Oh well.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Didn't read the OP but I'd probably stiff the server. I don't tip my uber driver why do I tip the server?
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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WAGYU is a ripoff. prime t bones from costco are far superior and a whole lot less expensive.
 

stlc8tr

Golden Member
Jan 5, 2011
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OK, thanks but not going. Out of the whole menu, all I'd eat would be the following and desserts. Almost no veggies, no seafood, no veal, no lamb.

"CHARCOAL GRILLED JAPANESE WAGYU
“Pommes Boulangère,” Green Asparagus, Tomato Confit, La Ratte Potato Purée and “Steak Sauce”
( 100.00 supplement )"

And on that, it's that $100 supplement and I don't eat the asparagus or tomatoes.

Awfully expensive $410 steak and dessert. Oh well.

That's OK, that reservation is already taken. :D
 

kranky

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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20% works most of the time but not all of the time.

My local diner's $5 breakfast comes with an attentive cheerful waitress who never lets your coffee cup go empty and checks on you more than once. 20% comes to $1 and that's not enough. I go $2-$3.

A $700 dinner might take 2 hours. Maybe they are so fanatical about service that your server ONLY works your table. The service is as perfect as it could be. 20% comes to $140 or $70 an hour, and that's simply too much even for the world's greatest server. As has been explained to me many times in my career, there is a ceiling to what a particular job is worth no matter how well it is being performed. To get over that limit, you have to get a better job.

However, I have to acknowledge that 15%-20% is the cultural norm and that's what people expect. But I just can't bring myself to tip at a $70/hour level no matter how good the meal or the service is. So the way I resolve that conflict is to not eat at places that expensive. I know it is not possible for me to enjoy a $350 meal any more than a great $100 meal. My tastes are not that discriminating.
 
Sep 29, 2004
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I'd stop by all those people at ramp exit ramps that need help and give them $100 each. And eat at Burger King that night.

Atleast I'd be able to tell my grandkids one day how I tried to help someone out on my anniversary. . And i would not worry about wasting my money. . And I'd be a little less douchebaggy feeling.

But you do what you want. If you and your wife can rationalize your anniversary idea, i feal sorry for you both.

And to those saying its drug money for these people. . Thar may be true but its not on my conscience.
 
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ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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I'd stop by all those people at ramp exit ramps that need help and give them $100 each. And eat at Burger King that night.

Atleast I'd be able to tell my grandkids one day how I tried to help someone out on my anniversary. . And i would not worry about wasting my money. . And I'd be a little less douchebaggy feeling.

But you do what you want. If you and your wife can rationalize your anniversary idea, i feal sorry for you both.

And to those saying its drug money for these people. . Thar may be true but its not on my conscience.

The OP helps to keep a restaurant in business and it's employees working, and you helped some beggar OD on Heroin and kill themselves. Good job!
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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OK, thanks but not going. Out of the whole menu, all I'd eat would be the following and desserts. Almost no veggies, no seafood, no veal, no lamb.

"CHARCOAL GRILLED JAPANESE WAGYU
“Pommes Boulangère,” Green Asparagus, Tomato Confit, La Ratte Potato Purée and “Steak Sauce”
( 100.00 supplement )"

And on that, it's that $100 supplement and I don't eat the asparagus or tomatoes.

Awfully expensive $410 steak and dessert. Oh well.


lmao. Please dont ever do a tasting menu.
 

Cappuccino

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2013
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I lost it when you said '$700' wtf are you rich or something? Is this normal? 700 seems absurd.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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thats with wine pairing its probably 7 to 12 courses over 2.5 hours. Not something you do everyday but you cant take it with you. why not experience the finest of something?
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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I'd stop by all those people at ramp exit ramps that need help and give them $100 each. And eat at Burger King that night.

Atleast I'd be able to tell my grandkids one day how I tried to help someone out on my anniversary. . And i would not worry about wasting my money. . And I'd be a little less douchebaggy feeling.

But you do what you want. If you and your wife can rationalize your anniversary idea, i feal sorry for you both.

And to those saying its drug money for these people. . Thar may be true but its not on my conscience.

You do what you want with your money. But don't tell others.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I don't understand what you mean by service level being beyond anything experienced before - all they really do is refill drinks and bring you your food, what part of that is beyond anything experienced before?


have you been in a restaurant like that?
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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I like the "US tipping model" and also prefer to work with commission sales staff because both provide incentive to give superior service. Not surprisingly most of the time that's exactly what I get and I have no problem rewarding it.

The only people hurt by these systems are cheapskates and those who are for some reason afraid to negotiate.

Based on the results of 100's of previous tipping-threads, ATOT has quite a few of both.
 
Sep 29, 2004
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The OP helps to keep a restaurant in business and it's employees working, and you helped some beggar OD on Heroin and kill themselves. Good job!

Your statement is ignorant.

Not all beggars are on drugs. Help 7, and you may have changed a life.

And I don't know how to tell you this but restaurant workers can also be drug addicts. And so can doctors, lawyer, engineers and teachers. So any otehr group that you would like to be ignorant about?
 
Sep 29, 2004
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I like the "US tipping model" and also prefer to work with commission sales staff because both provide incentive to give superior service. Not surprisingly most of the time that's exactly what I get and I have no problem rewarding it.

The only people hurt by these systems are cheapskates and those who are for some reason afraid to negotiate.

Based on the results of 100's of previous tipping-threads, ATOT has quite a few of both.

Or pay employees $20/hour and the ones that suck get fired and I get good service. But at the same cost. But instead of me keeping things in check, it's the restaurants. Countries that don't do tipping do so in part because people that make more are not supposed to tip because it is akin to saying that you are better than them.

FWIW: No matter where I go..... I tip 10% for shit service (I assume that they are short a waitress or chef. I worked in a restaurant in high school so I know what being one person short anywhere means to the work load on staff). 15% for average service. And 20% if the person brings me refills without asking.

The most expensive restaurant II ever went to provided a waitress that might have had alzeimers. She forgot little details here and there and my glass got empty more than once. oh, and the food while pretty was not that good. OK, restaurant good but I could have made a better steak on my own.
 
Sep 12, 2004
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When you start getting into big numbers like this, I like to break it down to an hourly wage. At 20%, if he's there two hours, that's $70/hour. That's kind of high for unskilled labor. Of course my $50/hour is high too. That's more than I make, and my mistakes can cost 10's of thousands of dollars, potentially getting into millions if other people fail too.
That's generally not how it works at higher-end places. You don't have a single server, you have a head server, a sommelier, along other servers and food runners. Those guys also split tips with some of the back-of-the-house peeps that you don't see and front of the house folks like the host/hostess.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Ditto and I'm proudly a cheap ass.

Even if it was our 10 year, we'd rather save that money for a weekend vacation.

For our 33rd wedding anniversary we went to a local seafood shack and spent about 110.00 including a 15% tip. And it was great!
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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I don't understand what you mean by service level being beyond anything experienced before - all they really do is refill drinks and bring you your food, what part of that is beyond anything experienced before?

They should be cutting it and feeding it to me for that kind of money.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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