Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
Originally posted by: vi_edit
If you can aquire the property for cheap, you can actually save money building the house from the ground up and finishing things (garage, basement, attic) later on when you have more money.
In some places it's not the house that's worth a lot of money, it's the property.
up with that
Yes, if you want a new home, do some homework and build it yourself. You could even hire a builder to assist you in decision making, but they won't actually be doing the job since you are looking to save money, just advising you on contractors, scheduling, etc. On a house that costs $150k to buy, somewhere around $100k may go into building it, and the builder pockets $50k for a couple months worth of work (talking subdivision developers here of course), and they do several houses at a time, just staggering the schedule - that's why they're all millionaires, they can easily pocket $200k to $300k in a single summer. The only hard part about doing it yourself is that you have do all the hiring and organization, dealing with problems, etc. It can be a pain, but you also have the chance of saving $20k to $50k on the size house you are looking at. And of course on your first home it will take longer. You could still start when the ground thaws in the spring though and be safely done with the house towards the end of the fall, the perfect schedule for building a house (building in the winter is NOT fun

). There are plenty of books and videos on building every aspect of a house, including ones on just building it yourself with advice and schedules and such. Get them, read them, watch them, learn what to look for, and what you can do yourself (adding thousands of additional dollars in savings on labor). Building your own house is the most cost effective (unless you completely absolutely screw every single portion of the building process up, but that is what your advising builder is for and the homework is for, even then you won't end up much worse off than you would have been buying the house already built) and satisfying way to get a home (knowing you organized the building and may have actually done some of the work yourself).
Another thing is that you gotta watch these developers if you are planning on buying one of their "cookie cutter" houses. A lot of times they will design things poorly or build the homes cheaply. I've done a lot of work in new homes after people have already moved into them, and they end up griping about some of the stuff the developer skimped on or whatnot. You may think you are buying a $150k house, but it may only be worth $130k if you had it appraised right away. I was working in this one guy's house that was just starting to move in, someone upstairs flushed the toilet and you could hear the waste water flowing down the drain really loud right in the living room and entrance. We listened a little closer and it turned out that the developer planned and built the house so that a drain line ran right through an inside wall on the living room. The owners didn't like that after a couple more flushes when the noise kept getting more and more annoying. Also, be wary of the "options" when buying a house. You have to make sure everything is included with the house. I know of people in new subs who didn't have a shower door in their house because they didn't order it with their house - yikes!
Originally posted by: teddymines
Ugh, my first house of almost 8 years was a split level and I never really liked it. The "main" floor had the kitchen, dinette and living room. Everything else involved using the stairs.
Geez, I can't believe a 2br 1 car house goes for over $100k. Why don't you try getting a used house with a little more room for about $70k, and build up some low-interest equity. You may be able to swing an extra principal payment or two a year. Then sell it in 5-8 years, and use that equity to upgrade. We did that with much success.
This is also an idea I would recommend. Buying a used house with a little bit of fixing up might not be that bad of an idea. Even look around at existing subs that are a couple years old and you'll find people already moving out, and you can buy the house for a true appraised value rather than the developer's advertised value.
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