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How much do you pay for your T1's?

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FreshPrince

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right now we pay about $2200 for 3xT1s 🙁

this gives us 4.5/4.5Mb but I'm wondering if there's something cheaper out there?
 
we sell local T1s for $449/mo, includes loop and bandwidth. But we're wholesale premier partners with Xspedius and ICG, and have fiber from both in our facility ... which means that we only ever pay for 1 leg of the loop ... which means really really really low cost loops compared to the competition.
 
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: user1234
I get about 3 Mbps using my cable broadband connection for less than $50/month
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LOL...and what's your upload speed?

like the other guy said..it ain't no T1 😉
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speed is not everyting in a internet connection.

😉
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: user1234
I get about 3 Mbps using my cable broadband connection for less than $50/month
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LOL...and what's your upload speed?

like the other guy said..it ain't no T1 😉
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speed is not everyting in a internet connection.

😉
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it is when you have private T's 😉
 
My company used to pay $1300 for one T1. Our contract ended last year and we renegotiated and now have two T1s (3mbps up + 3mbps down) for $1500.

$2100 - $2300 sounds like a fair price for three T1s, depending on who you're connected to.

In my city we could get "business" cable modem with something like 7mbps down and 1mbps up for $125 / month but we weren't impressed by our free trial month. Performance varied and reliability was a problem during critical moments of the day. Seems our local cable company likes to make upgrades and repairs during the day when most people are at work and not at home using their cable modems.

Our T1s are expensive because they connect us directly to Sprintlink in Chicago. We're no more than 3 hops from any of the major Internet peering points in the USA. It's fast and reliable and the low latency is awesome. In 3 years we only had one outage and it lasted just 4 minutes. We didn't even notice it.... Sprint called us and said their monitoring software was unable to see our router!!! How's that for service! They were about to issue a troubleticket to our local telco (who's responsible for the local city side of the loop to Sprint 700 miles away in Chicago) when service was restored. Someone do the math for me, what's the % of uptime for 4 minutes of downtime in 3 years? 99.9997%?

With T1/T3/OC-3/etc you get what you pay for. If upstream bandwidth is important to you (teleconferencing, sending large manufacturing CAD files frequently, etc) then you'll want some T1s and will gladly pay the price. If your company's internet usage is mainly email and web, then get some cable modems. If you need to host a server, use someone like Simpli and get phenomenal shared, dedicated, or colocated server bandwidth for pennies.

 
you could always compress your data using bz2 format to save bandwidth. Unfortunately most people just throw more money (=bandwidth/hardware) at the problem.
 
A cable/dsl connection doesn't compare to a private T1 or higher. It doesn't matter what you use for compression. The line isn't going to be as stable or guaranteed. There is pretty much no guarantee for any speed with a cable connection.
 
Originally posted by: user1234
you could always compress your data using bz2 format to save bandwidth. Unfortunately most people just throw more money (=bandwidth/hardware) at the problem.
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can you show me how to do that with 3rd party banking software that generates about 8 gigs of data per day that needs to be mirrored live?

if you can you're hired! 😉
 
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: user1234
you could always compress your data using bz2 format to save bandwidth. Unfortunately most people just throw more money (=bandwidth/hardware) at the problem.
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can you show me how to do that with 3rd party banking software that generates about 8 gigs of data per day that needs to be mirrored live?

if you can you're hired! 😉
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If you're using SSH, you can turn on compression (it's off by default). This would be useful for protocols which are built on top of ssh, like sftp and scp, but most other protocols can be configured to use ssh tunneling as well.
 
In the case of my business, we already compress our files. Even when we burn data to DVD-R, we compress the data first.

Bzip isn't always the smallest compression method, but someone here whipped up a cool script that'll compress a file (or directory) using several different methods and then single out the one that turned out the smallest.

Having only 4 minutes of dropped frames in 3 years is one of the primary reasons we still use T1s. Another is a little more control over the traffic control between sprintlink and our LAN. We have complete control of our router on site and we can request changes on the Sprint side as well.

We are currently in the process of expanding our business, and we are planning on adding a ~7mbit cable modem line for generic employee web surfing. But the T1s will stay for their more critical needs. And our webserver will stay at the Simpli colocation facility. It's all about using the right tools for the job.
 
Originally posted by: user1234
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: user1234
you could always compress your data using bz2 format to save bandwidth. Unfortunately most people just throw more money (=bandwidth/hardware) at the problem.
Click to expand...

can you show me how to do that with 3rd party banking software that generates about 8 gigs of data per day that needs to be mirrored live?

if you can you're hired! 😉
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If you're using SSH, you can turn on compression (it's off by default). This would be useful for protocols which are built on top of ssh, like sftp and scp, but most other protocols can be configured to use ssh tunneling as well.
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again, how do you tell the federal reserve bank and our third party banking software to use ssh? on top of that...all transactions are required to use FIPS compliant SSL encryption? ............ EXACTLY!

let's throw more money and get back to the bandwidth/hareware solution eh?

🙂


 
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: reicherb
$1250/Month for 3 PTP circuits that carry both voice and data.
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who's your carrier?
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2 are CenturyTel circuits and 1 is SBC and CenturyTel. I'm not paying for bandwidth with these circuits though. They connect my remote sites. Bandwidth comes from another pipe.
 
lol yes, enterprise networks will love the SLAs provided by a 50 buck consumer cable connection.

Hope this post doesn't make me a bozo.
 
Originally posted by: STaSh
lol yes, enterprise networks will love the SLAs provided by a 50 buck consumer cable connection.

Hope this post doesn't make me a bozo.
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hehe, I know...

T1 was specifically in the title...but everyone comes in with their cable modem and dsl ideas.....BRILLIANT! 😀

cheapest T1 I can find is speakeasy, but not sure about their guaranteed uptime.
 
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