Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: tehtank
This isn't really a true test of strength, since pretty much any overweight person is going to have really strong legs. Take it from me! I know!
Well still a fat guy isn't going to squat much either way you cut it if they DON'T TRAIN.
I've done 150kg for a double but not tested a 1RM yet.
Here is 140kg for a double:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/p...0140kg%20x%202reps.wmv
MUCH lower then most people could go with even 100kg imo. No one squats as low. I can lift much more if I didn't go so low.
Koing
Koing speaks the truth. I thought I had strong legs and did some squats last night. Holy crap I am sore. My legs werent used to doing that, so I was working muscles much more than they ever have.
Yeah always work to the 'maximum' rage and it isn't deep enough you have some flexibility issues. Why work to a partial range? Of course you will be able to lift less if you don't go as low
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
I dont' remember my max squat from HS, but i've hex bar'd 300lbs one rep.
And Koing, no spotter and no belt? Hmm....
Yup no spotter or belt is needed. You are
only as strong as your weakest link so why limit your strength with a belt? OBVIOUSLY don't go crazy with heavy weights when you start. Lift light and build up. My back is very strong from the way I train.
Originally posted by: ZippyDan
Originally posted by: Amused
Most people do half or quarter squats and think they are strong. The true test is how much can you do when you do a full, "touch your ass to your ankles" squat?
Also, tall lean types will not be able to squat as much as short squat types. That's just a matter of leverage.
um, that kind of deep squat should only be done at low warm-up weight loads. for a regular workout with weights >200 you should create a 90 degree bend at the knees. any deeper than that and you risk injury. note thats not 90 degrees to the floor, since the lower half of your leg bends forward too as you squat. also note that stopping at exactly 90 degrees is a very poor leverage point, and not easy to do and nothing to be laughed at. most people dont even make it as deep as 90 though without someone observing them to make sure they do
~Zippy!
Well I beg to differ.
You say you should create a 90 degree bend at the knees but then you go on to say that stopping at exactly 90 degress is the hardest on your knees...
When you do a pull up do you go up once and then down to only half way where you create a 90 degree with your elbows and back up again? Of course not but I see too many people do this. At the 90 degree will be the greatest load on your elbow. You go all the way down and all the way up.
Squating deep has no injury issues. The only issues are people who lack the flexibility to squat down from tight hams, hip flexors, backs etc and they will almost certainly go too heavy to start off with. They don't bother to learn to do it properly.
Also just squat properly with good form and don't crash down with heavy weights. If you do things that are not 'correct' you will end up injured sooner or later...
Koing
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