How many racist comments in the example?

[dank69]

It does dilute true racism and this is why people get all bent out of shape by terms like ghetto, savage etc... This is a classic example of "boy who cried wolf" where the word "racism" gets screamed out so often that people begin to dismiss it. True examples of racism are the only examples that deserve the racism designation, not the use of words like ghetto & savage. They are ambiguous only to race-baiters; those who seek to make a gain out of creating a racial issue where none exists. Those of us who are wiser and know the true meaning of the word see no ambiguity and have no guilt using it in a non-offensive scenario. We feel like we are walking on eggshells because we have people that are offended by innocuous terms with no historical racial connotation and are creating a problem where none exist.

We don't need to ignore minor racism in order to focus on major racism. That is a false dilemma. We can focus on both.

You also are using a perverted definition of race-baiting. Race-baiting means inciting racial hatred, not falsely accusing others of racism.

If you feel like you are walking on egg shells, stop using those words. If you want to use those words, deal with the feelings that come with their use. You can't claim ignorance because you have been informed that those terms are known to be used by racists. You have plenty of other choices when it comes to communicating your thoughts.

 

[JockoJohnson]

I think you are missing my point. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying it is possible for someone to take offense to your statement. The word ghetto carries with it lots of negative stereotypes.

It's possible for someone to get offended at anything that anyone says. So the F**k what? When did we have to start caring so much about people getting offended at anything that could be said. This is just retarded. Uh oh, is retard not a word that should be used. Someone might get offended.

Since you are so anal (maybe another offensive word) about definitions, specifically racism, why don't you want to use the word ghetto? That word is the exact one to use in the scenarios. If people get offended that they live in a shithole and don't want it called a shithole, they either need to fix the area or move out of the ghetto.

 

[dank69]

All this thread proves is that dank is a typical pc moron. None of those comments, in the PROPER CONTEXT, are racist. Politically approved victim groups overuse accusations like racism to cow the mindless sheeple. It's nothing more than intimidation and oppression.

Doesn't mean I advocate people going around being insensitive jerks, but some of the BS that gets called out as racist, sexist, etc is pure BS. It's used to divide and intimidate, not to bring people together to work out issues.

Nothing in the proper context is racist. What does that have to do with anything. All of those statements have a high probability of being racist in the context of teacher->student conversation.

You want to bring people together? Use neutral terminology so there is no room for misinterpretation.

The fact that you use the term sheeple tells me that you probably don't have the intellect to process what I have told you though, so just continue railing about intimidation and oppression.

 

[dank69]

It's possible for someone to get offended at anything that anyone says. So the F**k what? When did we have to start caring so much about people getting offended at anything that could be said. This is just retarded. Uh oh, is retard not a word that should be used. Someone might get offended.

Since you are so anal (maybe another offensive word) about definitions, specifically racism, why don't you want to use the word ghetto? That word is the exact one to use in the scenarios. If people get offended that they live in a shithole and don't want it called a shithole, they either need to fix the area or move out of the ghetto.

You don't have to care. You can just be an asshole. Just don't cry when I call you an asshole. Shithole is less offensive than ghetto because ghetto was used in recent history to refer specifically to black neighborhoods. Not just poor neighborhoods, black neighborhoods. Shithole never had that history.

 

[dank69]

So effing what, so they're offended, big whoop. Why is being offended by words (especially done so unintentionally) seen as such a travesty? Is it MY fault you are overly sensitive to a select few words that aren't inherently offensive?

It's not a travesty. It's a part of life. You are just don't want to deal with the baggage that comes with using certain words. Sorry, this is reality, and we have just as much a right to criticize you as you do to use those words.

 

[dank69]

...yes it does, because that fact is entirely not a fact.

If even one person in the history of the world has used savage as a replacement for the n-word, then it is a fact. Are you saying that nobody in the history of the world has ever done that? Really?

 

[rudeguy]

Ghetto
Black
Gay

These are not negative words. You see them as negative, which means you need to address how you feel about people from low income areas, African Americans and homosexuals.

Tell us dank69: Have you always been a bigot?

 

[dank69]

And? Ghettos arent racist.

Ghetto has been used in the past to mean black neighborhoods. Sorry, that means that the word ghetto has the potential to be used pejoratively. If it can be used pejoratively, then someone can assume you are using it pejoratively even if you aren't or think you aren't. Again, deal with it.

 

[dank69]

Ghetto
Black
Gay

These are not negative words. You see them as negative, which means you need to address how you feel about people from low income areas, African Americans and homosexuals.

Tell us dank69: Have you always been a bigot?

You don't seem to understand my point. I don't take offense to anything. You know this. I do, however, understand the fact that many people do take offense to these types of words.

 

[dank69]

Like thug is too, right? So every time we observe and identify a psychopathic behavior that takes place with a much higher frequency in the inner city, and assign it a word, that means racism?

So observing reality is basically a racist activity? A THING IS WHAT IT IS. No matter what anyone "feels."

No. Calling a thug a thug once doesn't make you racist. Taking every opportunity to call black people thugs makes you look like a racist.

 

[rudeguy]

You don't seem to understand my point. I don't take offense to anything. You know this. I do, however, understand the fact that many people do take offense to these types of words.

No. You are seriously acting like a closet racist right now.

You are acting ignorant as all hell. You have no idea what you are talking about and you are being offensive to those you claim to be protecting.

I am being dead serious here. You seriously sound like an ignorant bigot.

 

[Atreus21]

If even one person in the history of the world has used savage as a replacement for the n-word, then it is a fact. Are you saying that nobody in the history of the world has ever done that? Really?

So your claim has degraded from "it's a fact that many use it" to "if one person in all of history has used it, it's a fact"?

 

[JockoJohnson]

You don't have to care. You can just be an asshole. Just don't cry when I call you an asshole. Shithole is less offensive than ghetto because ghetto was used in recent history to refer specifically to black neighborhoods. Not just poor neighborhoods, black neighborhoods. Shithole never had that history.

I certainly won't get upset at being called an asshole. And even if I did, I am not going to try to ruin your personal life. A good bit of this nation has become a bunch of whiny babies. Everyone gets offended at everything. And then if they feel offended, they think it is their right to try and destroy the offending person's livelihood.

It is akin to stealing a pack of gum and then getting sentenced to jail for life. The punishment does not fit the crime. In this case, it is an arbitrary crime. Some people can get away with saying certain offensive words and others can't.

At least reading this thread and seeing comments here and elsewhere around the interwebs, I have hope that the U.S. is not a total nation full of offended pussies.

 

[dank69]

So your claim has degraded from "it's a fact that many use it" to "if one person in all of history has used it, it's a fact"?

I said it is a fact that many people use it in that way. You said it isn't a fact. Many is a very loose term and I am very comfortable classifying the amount of people that use the term that way as many. So many used the term that way on this site alone that the term has basically been banned.

 

[dank69]

No. You are seriously acting like a closet racist right now.

You are acting ignorant as all hell. You have no idea what you are talking about and you are being offensive to those you claim to be protecting.

I am being dead serious here. You seriously sound like an ignorant bigot.

If you are being serious then you seriously don't understand what I am saying. For example, what is wrong with saying I understand how people can be offended by certain words or phrases?

 

[NetWareHead]

We don't need to ignore minor racism in order to focus on major racism. That is a false dilemma. We can focus on both.

Im not ignoring racism when I see a real example of it. But I will dismiss people who flippantly cry racism i.e. when hearing the word ghetto or savage.

You also are using a perverted definition of race-baiting. Race-baiting means inciting racial hatred, not falsely accusing others of racism..

No, race-baiting is when you insinuate that racism is the dominant factor with regards to an event that doesn't involve race. When you make accusations of racism where there are none. Upon face value there is nothing racist about the aforementioned examples yet misinformed people will insist they are being racially offended and make a big deal about it. The bait here is the misrepresentation regarding a so-called racist connation

If you feel like you are walking on egg shells, stop using those words. If you want to use those words, deal with the feelings that come with their use. You can't claim ignorance because you have been informed that those terms are known to be used by racists. You have plenty of other choices when it comes to communicating your thoughts.

I'm not saying I'm walking on eggshells because the n word gets the blacks angry. We're talking about the unexpected reaction generated from innocuous words. To which I'm not going to make my problem if you are offended by usages of ghetto and savage. The alternative is to dumb down all of the sheeple to remove those words from their vocab. And it sometimes works because being a racist leads to widespread ostracization (look at Paula Deen) and alot of the time, people will just comply with the false accusation out of fear (this is the minority pandering I was referring to). I wont participate in this idiocy and will call it the way I see it.

 

[dank69]

I certainly won't get upset at being called an asshole. And even if I did, I am not going to try to ruin your personal life. A good bit of this nation has become a bunch of whiny babies. Everyone gets offended at everything. And then if they feel offended, they think it is their right to try and destroy the offending person's livelihood.

It is akin to stealing a pack of gum and then getting sentenced to jail for life. The punishment does not fit the crime. In this case, it is an arbitrary crime. Some people can get away with saying certain offensive words and others can't.

At least reading this thread and seeing comments here and elsewhere around the interwebs, I have hope that the U.S. is not a total nation full of offended pussies.

I assume you are referring to celebrities that get hammered for stupid statements. That is part of the package deal that comes along with being a celebrity. You live and die by how people perceive you.

 

[dank69]

Im not ignoring racism when I see a real example of it. But I will dismiss people who flippantly cry racism i.e. when hearing the word ghetto or savage.



No, race-baiting is when you insinuate that racism is the dominant factor with regards to an event that doesn't involve race. When you make accusations of racism where there are none. Upon face value there is nothing racist about the aforementioned examples yet misinformed people will insist they are being racially offended and make a big deal about it. The bait here is the misrepresentation regarding a so-called racist connation



I'm not saying I'm walking on eggshells because the n word gets the blacks angry. We're talking about the unexpected reaction generated from innocuous words. To which I'm not going to make my problem if you are offended by usages of ghetto and savage. The alternative is to dumb down all of the sheeple to remove those words from their vocab. And it sometimes works because being a racist leads to widespread ostracization (look at Paula Deen) and alot of the time, people will just comply with the false accusation out of fear (this is the minority pandering I was referring to). I wont participate in this idiocy and will call it the way I see it.

No. That was never the definition of race-baiting. Racists have been pushing that false definition lately. Race-baiting means the unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes of a particular group of people, usually to incite racial hatred.

 

[rudeguy]

If you are being serious then you seriously don't understand what I am saying. For example, what is wrong with saying I understand how people can be offended by certain words or phrases?

You equated being from the ghetto with being called a n***er. That's racist as fuck.

You're ignorant. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are offending people with your ignorant mouth diarrhea. You are a moron.

 

[OCNewbie]

Use neutral terminology so there is no room for misinterpretation.

Until we can all read each other's minds, there will always be misinterpretation through words. Expression without constraints is much more important to preserve than an individual's ever-narrowing list of words they're comfortable with.

 

[NetWareHead]

No. That was never the definition of race-baiting. Racists have been pushing that false definition lately. Race-baiting means the unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes of a particular group of people, usually to incite racial hatred.

I'd say your definition is the actual definition of what racism is: "unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes of a particular group of people, usually to incite racial hatred".

Again, race-bating is trying to force racism to be the underlying motive for a cause/event where it clearly is not.

 

[dank69]

You equated being from the ghetto with being called a n***er. That's racist as fuck.

You're ignorant. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are offending people with your ignorant mouth diarrhea. You are a moron.

Lol I never equated those two terms.

 

[dank69]

I'd say your definition is the actual definition of what racism is: "unfair use of statements about race to try to influence the actions or attitudes of a particular group of people, usually to incite racial hatred".

Again, race-bating is trying to force racism to be the underlying motive for a cause/event where it clearly is not.

Then you clearly don't know how to use a dictionary.

 

[rudeguy]

Lol I never equated those two terms.

Yes you did.

You obviously have a very negative view of black people and specifically black people from the ghetto. I hope one day you open your eyes and address your hate.

 

[keird]

If you are being serious then you seriously don't understand what I am saying. For example, what is wrong with saying I understand how people can be offended by certain words or phrases?

Right on, Dank. Obvious micro-aggression and cisgender bigotry is obvious. 'Brigand' is my trigger.[/s] :biggrin:

I think your understanding of other's offence is kind of enabling the perpetuation of this crap. Neither 'ghetto', nor 'savage' was a 'dog whistle' word until a year or two ago. With 'ghetto' in use for 175 years or so, it's kind of peculiar that it's been re-defined and can now be potentially offensive. In the 1970's I was in kindergarten and knew it was bad to use the N word. I think the pendulum is swinging the other way. Re-defining words is absurd on it's face. I just take the opportunity to heap scorn on the concept.