How many people here are butt hurt that Trump caved in to Pelosi??

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Vic

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Didnt nancy and chuck both vote for a wall, or improved border security just a few years ago?

Part of this is typical democrat hypocrisy. The only reason why they are against the wall this time is because trump is president. Even obama said we need better border security.

Shut the government down not because of the wall per say, but because of democrats being hypocrites.
Why is it Democratic hypocrisy that the Republicans didn't pass a bill for a wall while they had control of Congress and Democratic support?
Stop and think for a moment. The Republicans controlled Congress for the last 8 years, and did nothing about a border wall. For the last 2 years, they controlled all 3 branches of government, and did nothing.
So how is it Democratic hypocrisy that the Republicans didn't do anything?
 

Bitek

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Aug 2, 2001
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I am pissed off.

What I see happening, in three weeks - chuck and nancy will refuse to budge on the wall and trump will shut the government again. This time I hope for months, maybe even years.

If democrats refuse to negotiate, shut it down. Shut the airports down, shut the courts down... shut everything down until the wall is built.

Yeah, that well surely work... next time lol
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I have enough guns, ammo, seeds, garden tools, chickens, dried foods.... etc, to outlast just about everyone in this forum.

Ahh, an anarchist survivalist. How many guns can you fire at once and who do you shoot everybody? You hunker down and I can get you and there's better than me. Get two coordinated firearms teams and a decent squad leader. History has proven a squad is worth a shitton of bravado. Haven't two fire teams? One will suffice for a pinned down individual if they scout properly.

But dying is worth it if you can take Pelosi down? By all means, give it a "shot".
 

nOOky

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Aug 17, 2004
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Ahh, an anarchist survivalist. How many guns can you fire at once and who do you shoot everybody? You hunker down and I can get you and there's better than me. Get two coordinated firearms teams and a decent squad leader. History has proven a squad is worth a shitton of bravado. Haven't two fire teams? One will suffice for a pinned down individual if they scout properly.

But dying is worth it if you can take Pelosi down? By all means, give it a "shot".

I have a co-worker like that, in fact a couple. They have enough guns for an army. Trouble is, everybody knows they have them, so if the shit hit the fan they wouldn't likely last long. It's a comforting thought for them though, I suppose. They don't realize that many other folks are smart enough to take from them what they, probably over their cold, dead body.

I'm not going to celebrate over the government re-opening. It should have never been shut down, and I feel for all those poor bastards that had to suffer to accomplish exactly nothing.
 

sdifox

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A lot of people are saying he "caved", but it was less a surrender and more a ceasefire. The bill is only for three weeks, after which he can hold the government hostage all over again. And don't think he wouldn't, as after the rebukes from the conservative media, you can be sure he'll be even more adamant about not compromising in round 2.


He was the one that insisted no wall no deal. So totally caved. Not unexpected from dotard in chief.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Didnt nancy and chuck both vote for a wall, or improved border security just a few years ago?

Part of this is typical democrat hypocrisy. The only reason why they are against the wall this time is because trump is president. Even obama said we need better border security.

Shut the government down not because of the wall per say, but because of democrats being hypocrites.
No, the country is against the wall because it won't accomplish what you hope it will and costs too much. Trump doesn't even think it will do what you hope it will do. It's merely a political ploy and has always been.
 
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soundforbjt

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No, the country is against the wall because it won't accomplish what you hope it will and costs too much. Trump doesn't even think it will do what you hope it will do. It's merely a political ploy and has always been.
Exactly, his re-election hinges on it, otherwise he wouldn't give a shit.
Edit: He sure didn't care when he had control of the entire government...wonder why that is.
 

soundforbjt

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I can't understand how someone with texashitchikers experience could believe the wall would do what he hopes it will.
Or why, if it was such a necessity it wasn't done in the two years he had complete control of the government.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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I have a co-worker like that, in fact a couple. They have enough guns for an army. Trouble is, everybody knows they have them, so if the shit hit the fan they wouldn't likely last long. It's a comforting thought for them though, I suppose. They don't realize that many other folks are smart enough to take from them what they, probably over their cold, dead body.

I doubt most of these have heard of small unit tactics and what that means, or any CQ basic train beyond Youtube.
 
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Starbuck1975

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It's perfectly clear Congress won't allow another shutdown. The vote to open the govt shows that.
Given that we just suffered through the longest shutdown in history over an ego driven pissing match, I expect we will see more and not less dysfunction over the next two years.
 

Texashiker

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what are you waiting for? start your little war now, bro. shit or get off the pot.

I love your post; except when you are mean.

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While we are building the wall, let's go ahead and give that communist state of california back to mexico. I am sure between socialism and communism california liberals can solve mexicos problems.

Let's not build a wall between mexico and california, let's build a wall separating communism and a free republic.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I love your post; except when you are mean.

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While we are building the wall, let's go ahead and give that communist state of california back to mexico. I am sure between socialism and communism california liberals can solve mexicos problems.

Let's not build a wall between mexico and california, let's build a wall separating communism and a free republic.
Here's the issue. The vast majority don't see California as socialist and, you certainly haven't made the case that socialism equals communism.
 
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Jhhnn

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Given that we just suffered through the longest shutdown in history over an ego driven pissing match, I expect we will see more and not less dysfunction over the next two years.

A bit of bothsiderism?

The toddler in chief owns the shutdown. McConnell was complicit in letting it go on as long as it did.

The bill Trump ultimately signed was the same bill that McConnell sent to the House before Christmas. When Trump double crossed him, he stood back & watched Trump burn himself to the ground. He said he wouldn't consider a bill Trump wouldn't sign, and he didn't, until Trump caved. I'm sure he watched in wonderment at how Trump could be so stupid.
 

Texashiker

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you certainly haven't made the case that socialism equals communism.

There is an old saying that goes something like this - "People willingly turn to socialism. Communism is enforced by violence."

When socialism fails, governments will embrace communism to maintain control.

In other words, socialism is a stepping stone to either fascism or communism.
 

VRAMdemon

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The politics of having the GOP on the governments side of the biggest eminent domain takings case in the history of the state of Texas is just a fucking nightmare for the GOP. The support for this idea in the state is tepid at best, and it will go completely negative once the TV cameras start to show Old White Men and Old Hispanic Abuela's thrown from their centuries-owned family ranches. This would be a good issue for Beto to start showing up for. If he can stop staring at his navel
 

ivwshane

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I am pissed off.

What I see happening, in three weeks - chuck and nancy will refuse to budge on the wall and trump will shut the government again. This time I hope for months, maybe even years.

If democrats refuse to negotiate, shut it down. Shut the airports down, shut the courts down... shut everything down until the wall is built.

Right!? Because that's how real democracies work! You either get your way or just shut it all down!

/s


Be honest, you have a mental deficiency, right? Because there is no way you are this stupid after proclaiming you want a democracy like the one we have.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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There is an old saying that goes something like this - "People willingly turn to socialism. Communism is enforced by violence."

When socialism fails, governments will embrace communism to maintain control.

In other words, socialism is a stepping stone to either fascism or communism.

Says the dumb ass mother fucker who says he's got enough guns and food to fight the power.

Here is a hint, you are exactly what you fear, you are that authoritarian government you claim you are against, you are that majority you call uninformed.

Now go fuck your chickens.
 

brycejones

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Says the dumb ass mother fucker who says he's got enough guns and food to fight the power.

Here is a hint, you are exactly what you fear, you are that authoritarian government you claim you are against, you are that majority you call uninformed.

Now go fuck your chickens.

Please don’t promote animal abuse. The chickens are innocent victims.