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how many of you would not care if all the ghettos and everything in it were annihilated?

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invidia

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Most people who live in ghettos don't have real jobs. Their jobs are either gangbanging or dealing drugs. Which is more profitable than some cashier at McDonalds.


After living in one for +20 years, I don't think more than half of the people in ghettos are useful to society in anyway besides corrupting it more, at least in the one I'm living in. I remember my friend's cousin dropping out in 6th grade to join a gang. It's so corrupted and desecrated to the point that there is no salvation.
 

Capt Caveman

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fwiw - an interesting article in yesterday's Boston Globe

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It's about Regis College which caters to students from the Ghetto wants to expand and include senior housing. But being in the most expensive town in MA, the town won't let them.

So no, not all people from the Ghetto are drug dealers and gang-banging. Some folks are trying to better their lives like the rest of us.
 

Josh

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It's called eminent domain...

It's happening heavy in Asbury Park right now, lot of protests and stuff goin on there about it. If I was someone with a decent amount of money I'd invest in some real estate out there as they are building some nice modern condos/etc that will probably give you a nice profit in a few years.
 

IGBT

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Originally posted by: invidia
Most people who live in ghettos don't have real jobs. Their jobs are either gangbanging or dealing drugs. Which is more profitable than some cashier at McDonalds.


After living in one for +20 years, I don't think more than half of the people in ghettos are useful to society in anyway besides corrupting it more, at least in the one I'm living in. I remember my friend's cousin dropping out in 6th grade to join a gang. It's so corrupted and desecrated to the point that there is no salvation.


..it became plenty worse as more tax payer funds were injected into ethically depressed areas.
 

ViviTheMage

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not sure...I guess there could be a lot of GOOD if they/and the BAD people disappeared...but for some reason, like everything in the world, it ties to me somehow....

 

Xavier434

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Oct 14, 2002
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Aside from the complete unethical reasons behind this idea, what's the point?

Does anyone really believe that doing such a thing will actually get rid of all the ghettos in the US? All it will do is provide America with a temporary blindfold to the real problems which are what results in these ghettos. That blindfold will be removed as soon as the ghettos reappear as a result of the exact same problems which create and maintain them right now.
 

crystal

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We need it for the world order to exist. If they crease to exist, then you as the next ladder in the "food" chain will become ghettos. That mean one day you will crease to exist and so on and so on until the human race creases to exist.
 
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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Leros
Who's going to do the crappy jobs if we get rid of the lower class?
The OP will have to work at McD's to make his own Big Mac.
LOL... manual labor will be the death of rich folks.

first of all, only lower class people eat McD's :p

secondly, a lot of lower class people don't have jobs.

Whatever problems are caused by this are insignificant compared to its potential solutions. You know, besides the issue of the whole killing people of a certain social class
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Leros
Who's going to do the crappy jobs if we get rid of the lower class?
The OP will have to work at McD's to make his own Big Mac.
LOL... manual labor will be the death of rich folks.

first of all, only lower class people eat McD's :p

secondly, a lot of lower class people don't have jobs.

Whatever problems are caused by this are insignificant compared to its potential solutions. You know, besides the issue of the whole killing people of a certain social class

I am not even close to lower class and I eat McD's.

I have friends that are considered lower class income families and they all have respectable jobs. They just do not happen to earn a lot of money.

There is no potential solution because killing these people is not killing the problem. The problems will remain and over time they will create ghettos again just like they created the ones that are here now.
 
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: mizzou

What are the negatives? Well not from an ethical standpoint, I can't think of much....

Massive inflation. You just got rid of everyone who worked for anywhere from minimum wage to $15/hr. Now McDonalds and your local gas station and 7-eleven and your gracery store have to pay out $20/hr+ for basic low end employees. They can't afford to do that at current prices, so they raise prices on everything. A chain reaction results, because the employees can't afford to live on the money they make after inflation, and leave their jobs, company foriced to pay even more, inflation goes out of control.

That's utterly ridiculous. McDonald's doesn't have a busing program and neither does any other company offering minimum wage jobs. They hire locally. In ghettos they hire from the ghettos and in other neighborhoods they hire whoever lives in the area.

Huh? McDonalds hires locally? Right... I'm sure the McDonalds in McLean VA, avg house price $900,000, hires people who live in those houses. And I'm sure the Starbucks in Georgetown hires people living in the local $1,500,000 houses.

BS. The poor work in the poor paying jobs, that is how it works. Now, the McDonalds in a rich neighborhood might have to pay a little extra to compensate for the fact that the people working there are commuting from 20 miles away or whatever, but that is how things go.

And WTF are you talking about buses? We live in America, even the poor ghetto living deadbeats have cars, you can get a decent working car for $1500 if you don't care about looks, performance, or working A/C.

Wow, your ignorance is astounding. Yes, kids in expensive hourse DO get jobs because some parents are responsible and try to teach them the value of working for spending money. Mommy and daddy didn't get rich by playing Nintendo and some try to create a work ethic. The point you're missing despite it being painfully obvious is that in rich neighborhoods there are not all that many McDonalds to begin with. They all staff locally, WTF would some kid drive from the slums to the burbs for a minimum wage job he can get right down the street? WTF do you think staffs McDonalds in Kansas and Iowa? Think kids are driving in from South Central? Please, the next time you pass a McDonalds in a decent neighborhood stop in and look who's working there. It's not the ghetto kids. And while you're there, please take the time to buy yourself a McClue.

yeah, rich kids are always taught the value of money and the importance of hard work.
 

Auric

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Oct 11, 1999
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I demand a fourth pole option: seal them off a la Escape From New York. As technology allows, implement effective domes.
 

Xavier434

Lifer
Oct 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Wow, your ignorance is astounding. Yes, kids in expensive hourse DO get jobs because some parents are responsible and try to teach them the value of working for spending money. Mommy and daddy didn't get rich by playing Nintendo and some try to create a work ethic. The point you're missing despite it being painfully obvious is that in rich neighborhoods there are not all that many McDonalds to begin with. They all staff locally, WTF would some kid drive from the slums to the burbs for a minimum wage job he can get right down the street? WTF do you think staffs McDonalds in Kansas and Iowa? Think kids are driving in from South Central? Please, the next time you pass a McDonalds in a decent neighborhood stop in and look who's working there. It's not the ghetto kids. And while you're there, please take the time to buy yourself a McClue.

yeah, rich kids are always taught the value of money and the importance of hard work.

Ya, no kidding. It's so easy to figure out the people who have never met the children of parents who hand their riches to their children on a silver platter. I have met several. Some were intelligent people that will do very well with what was handed to them. Some are dumb as a rock, but what they were handed will mostly work for itself anyways so it doesn't matter. However, in all cases, these kids are exactly the same as everyone else. They just got lucky enough to start off past all of the hard steps when it comes to owning a business and becoming rich. They start off at the step where everything is already functioning on its own. That doesn't make these kids bad people, but never think for a second that somehow it separates them from your average joe because that it not that case at all.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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in chicago they tore them down with a promise to build better housing for them. guess what? they havent built them yet..even though they tore down the housing
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Wow, your ignorance is astounding. Yes, kids in expensive hourse DO get jobs because some parents are responsible and try to teach them the value of working for spending money. Mommy and daddy didn't get rich by playing Nintendo and some try to create a work ethic. The point you're missing despite it being painfully obvious is that in rich neighborhoods there are not all that many McDonalds to begin with. They all staff locally, WTF would some kid drive from the slums to the burbs for a minimum wage job he can get right down the street? WTF do you think staffs McDonalds in Kansas and Iowa? Think kids are driving in from South Central? Please, the next time you pass a McDonalds in a decent neighborhood stop in and look who's working there. It's not the ghetto kids. And while you're there, please take the time to buy yourself a McClue.

yeah, rich kids are always taught the value of money and the importance of hard work.

Ya, no kidding. It's so easy to figure out the people who have never met the children of parents who hand their riches to their children on a silver platter. I have met several. Some were intelligent people that will do very well with what was handed to them. Some are dumb as a rock, but what they were handed will mostly work for itself anyways so it doesn't matter. However, in all cases, these kids are exactly the same as everyone else. They just got lucky enough to start off past all of the hard steps when it comes to owning a business and becoming rich. They start off at the step where everything is already functioning on its own. That doesn't make these kids bad people, but never think for a second that somehow it separates them from your average joe because that it not that case at all.

What does separate the rich kids from the poor (in my experience) is the almost universal inability of the rich kids to problem solve. They either spend more money on the problem or change directions to avoid the problem. Being rich doesn't make you smarter or dumber but, it definitely affects the perceptions of the rich and it's hard to learn a skill you don't know you're lacking.
 
Nov 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Leros
Who's going to do the crappy jobs if we get rid of the lower class?
The OP will have to work at McD's to make his own Big Mac.
LOL... manual labor will be the death of rich folks.

first of all, only lower class people eat McD's :p

secondly, a lot of lower class people don't have jobs.

Whatever problems are caused by this are insignificant compared to its potential solutions. You know, besides the issue of the whole killing people of a certain social class

I am not even close to lower class and I eat McD's.

I have friends that are considered lower class income families and they all have respectable jobs. They just do not happen to earn a lot of money.

There is no potential solution because killing these people is not killing the problem. The problems will remain and over time they will create ghettos again just like they created the ones that are here now.

ok, first off, you totally missed the smiley face/joke in my first point

secondly, i guess i meant people living in the ghetto as opposed to "lower class people," since the topic at hand deals with that.

Thirdly, I also agree. Just saying it would be a short term solution that could pave the way for a longer term solution. By getting rid of the bad stuff in the short term, we can more easily solve the problem at the root. But this whole thing is a dumb idea because it's morally reprehensible.
 

Xavier434

Lifer
Oct 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
ok, first off, you totally missed the smiley face/joke in my first point

secondly, i guess i meant people living in the ghetto as opposed to "lower class people," since the topic at hand deals with that.

Thirdly, I also agree. Just saying it would be a short term solution that could pave the way for a longer term solution. By getting rid of the bad stuff in the short term, we can more easily solve the problem at the root. But this whole thing is a dumb idea because it's morally reprehensible.

I owe you an apology then. I partially misinterpreted your post.

Aside from the moral aspects of it which are obviously ludicrous, I don't even think we will be able to solve the problem at the root. We will be able to temporarily solve some side effects to that problem such lowering the amount of funding necessary for social services and possibly lowering certain types of crime, but in due time it will just be bumped up again. Too many people will end up filling the ghettos again in due time especially considering how much people prey off of each other in this country due to their own selfish and greedy nature. That combined with the current state of the education system alone will most likely ensure that the ghettos would return. Neither of those problems will even be touched by killing off the current ghettos.